Nitrons

[_DJ_]

Does anyone know what the typical turnaround on Nitrons is? I'm thinking of ordering some (to Joolz's spec) but don't want to wait an age!

Darren.

[trooper1212]

Took about a week for mine to arrive.

[jonnie5]

Ditto, mine were fitted within 2 weeks of ordering. They could have been done sooner if I wanted though, it suited me to do it then.

Depends on who's fitting them as I think Joolz and Topcats try to keep some limited stock. If you're buying direct and you're desperate, guy will probably turn them around very quickly for you.

[HarryW]

IMHO Joolz can get them made up and delivered in less than 2 weeks. There is no benefit, again IMHO, of not getting them via Joolz as you won't get them cheaper anywhere else. The real added advantage is that when you speak to Joolz he will fully understand what you want from the car/suspension and...
1. either have them in stock, or
2. Get Guy to make them up to your exact specification....same price.

I think I'm right in saying that Joolz is the biggest distributor for the Nitron and has invested a lot of his own time getting the specs right for TVR's.
As far as I'm concerned its almost a duty of care you order them via him, not necessarily fitted though , it'll make no difference to you finacially, again IMHO.

btw I have no connection to Joolz apart from being a satisfied customer .

Harry

[kojak69]

HarryW said:

IMHO Joolz can get them made up and delivered in less than 2 weeks. There is no benefit, again IMHO, of not getting them via Joolz as you won't get them cheaper anywhere else. The real added advantage is that when you speak to Joolz he will fully understand what you want from the car/suspension and... 1. either have them in stock, or 2. Get Guy to make them up to your exact specification....same price. I think I'm right in saying that Joolz is the biggest distributor for the Nitron and has invested a lot of his own time getting the specs right for TVR's. As far as I'm concerned its almost a duty of care you order them via him, not necessarily fitted though , it'll make no difference to you finacially, again IMHO. btw I have no connection to Joolz apart from being a satisfied customer . Harry

Ditto. He's your man.

[_DJ_]

kojak69 said:

HarryW said: IMHO Joolz can get them made up and delivered in less than 2 weeks. There is no benefit, again IMHO, of not getting them via Joolz as you won't get them cheaper anywhere else. The real added advantage is that when you speak to Joolz he will fully understand what you want from the car/suspension and... 1. either have them in stock, or 2. Get Guy to make them up to your exact specification....same price. I think I'm right in saying that Joolz is the biggest distributor for the Nitron and has invested a lot of his own time getting the specs right for TVR's. As far as I'm concerned its almost a duty of care you order them via him, not necessarily fitted though , it'll make no difference to you finacially, again IMHO. btw I have no connection to Joolz apart from being a satisfied customer . Harry Ditto. He's your man.

I was always planning on getting them through Joolz. Unfortunately, he's too busy to fit them at the moment, so I'll have to have them delivered and fitted by someone else....
All I have to do now is work out
a) Whether the ohlins advertised in the classifieds are of a suitable spec for the Cerbera
b) If they are, whether I prefer a second hand set (original price over twice that of the Nitrons) or a new set of Nitrons.

Opinions?




>> Edited by _DJ_ on Wednesday 24th March 12:08

[joospeed]

oo I think i might be able to squeeze you in darren!
I'm coming to the end of my *too busy* period, partly cos of the fact I stopped taking any more work on lol .. to concentrate on exisiting customers and the performance side. I was booked for 4 months which i thought was a bit silly .. it's now down to 5 weeks and the remaining weeks have a few spaces left to get stuff like this sorted.

Give me a call and we can talk through the car and your spec and what you need from the kit anyway.

best wishes

joo

[jonnie5]

Result!

[_DJ_]

joospeed said:

oo I think i might be able to squeeze you in darren! I'm coming to the end of my *too busy* period, partly cos of the fact I stopped taking any more work on lol .. to concentrate on exisiting customers and the performance side. I was booked for 4 months which i thought was a bit silly .. it's now down to 5 weeks and the remaining weeks have a few spaces left to get stuff like this sorted. Give me a call and we can talk through the car and your spec and what you need from the kit anyway. best wishes joo

Thanks Joolz - I'll give you a call. Chances are it'll be in a week or two because I'm getting a few other things done to the car before hand (wheels, paintwork etc) and I've got a load on at work too.

Darren.

[joospeed]

okies

there's a set on the shelf with your name pencilled on them if you want them anyway

[Julian64]

Joolz, how stock are the Nitrons. I've heard a lot about you setting the stuff up, but live nowhere near you and have given up trying to get you to move down to london.

Are they the same innards and springs for every cerb with different settings or is there really a whole bunch of different spring rates that people choose from? I only ask cos I want to know the practicallities of ordering from you and email advice on adjustment after I fit them.

How much of the benefit is the actual fitting of the nitrons and how much is the alteration to the tracking fitted to the individual. I pretty sure the fitting won't tax me but I've never really successfully tracked a car and been satisfied with the result.

[j_s_g]

_DJ_ said:

Thanks Joolz - I'll give you a call. Chances are it'll be in a week or two because I'm getting a few other things done to the car before hand (wheels, paintwork etc) and I've got a load on at work too.

There may be mine up for sale, too... Car gets serviced tomorrow, then into the classifieds tomorrow night. I'll keep you posted based on how much money I need to have in the bank at the mo/whether I'm getting something else I can stick them on.

[joospeed]

In stability terms that comes from the suspension geometry work. I have my own settings that i use, others will have theirs.
Naturally I wouldn't give a competitor my settings .. they would have to measure them off a car. I will supply general set-up info to all customers though, but the *tweeks* are mine so they stay with me

The behaviour as regards on-road suspension though comes from the springs and dampers. I keep a range of springs in stock from 225lbs up to 450 pounds in 25 lb increments and will select any from this range that i think will be right for you based on what you tell me.

I then have the dampers built to spec, changing bump and rebound rates and damper stroke length to match the springs. All this is still 850 plus vat for the kit as you would pay elsewhere. i make no money out of nitrons as you can see! .. on mail orders with alot of phone chatting and dialogue with Guy i can actualy lose money on a charge per hour basis!!

I also keep usually 2 kits for chim griff and for tuscan cerbie in stock for next day delivery. these are to std spec though as fitted by every other nitron dealer. as far as i know I'm the only one to keep a stock of nitron kits, but others may have stock i don't know about.

I also do special long stroke kits for extra ride comfort, many people forget that you can tailor for comfort as well as grip These are my kits via nitron and aren't available from anyone else.

In total I have probably 12 variations of kits you can have, all road and track proven and all one price ..

accept no compromise .. and if by any chance you aren't happy, I'll rebuild and refit for free! (not had to do that yet though!!) lol

[kojak69]

Thats why you are the man for Nitrons Joolz.

[Julian64]

So, to order a set of nitrons and have a dog in hells chance of seeing similar improvemnts to those you have set up, what chance have I got doing this with a set of your nitrons without having to turn into a northener.

Is this at all viable for a home install or am I going to be dissapointed.

[Tam Lin]

Julian64 said:

So, to order a set of nitrons and have a dog in hells chance of seeing similar improvemnts to those you have set up, what chance have I got doing this with a set of your nitrons without having to turn into a northener. Is this at all viable for a home install or am I going to be dissapointed.

Well, we always take two cars up & combine the trip with a stay in the Dales. There are a couple of places listed in the Good Food guide, so it shouldn't be impossible to persuade someone to come along.

I must say, the results of what Joolz achieves with his set-up is very impressive, and well worth a bit of organisation.

[Buster4.2]

Julian64 said:

Is this at all viable for a home install or am I going to be dissapointed.

Fitted my front Nitrons myself with advice from Joolz.

Access to a ramp (which I think you have) makes it much easier.

[julian64]

So it is possible to set it up yourself (were you happy with your setup buster?) But it seems your gonna get more out of it with joolz at the helm.

So coz I'm a lazy git what is it gonna take to get joolz to come to me? Hmmmmmm.

Just a pipedream at the moment joolz, but you know I live next to brands hatch, just south of the essex mob and in the middle of the nort kent SE london mob. You can take a look at my profile to see my garage. It has a central two post lift and can lift the car 1.8m off the ground. You also have the a full garage each side as workspace.

If I could wangle a weekend where you would have full use of my garage for 'FREE'. How many PH'ers wanting specifically YOU to set up their cars with nitrons would it take to convince you to come down here for a days/weekends setting up extravaganza?

I have everything from country lanes to M25 within easy reach for people to test their cars on and if people really wanted to go to town they could book at brands (2 miles down the road) while you were here.

[Buster4.2]

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=6&h=&t=83424

I think you could say I was happy with the results!

[joospeed]

Sorry Julian, you'll not tempt me out of my workshop, in a weekend I'd get two cars set up, so not really worth coming down! ..

I have different set-ups for bridgestone and toyo and gooodyear eagle shod cars and road or track bias, drifting or outright grip etc that's how in-depth i've investigated it. That's why i like to spend about 30 mins on the phone discussing your driving and how you want the car to feel before i spec a kit for you .. it really is as tailored as i can make it given the circumstances.

Using my own tools / set-up equuipment and being in relaxed familiar surroundings is as much a part of getting the car set-up correct as the initial speccing of the kit too.

I have no real deadlines, if it isn't right i change and change again until i think it is right.