Vibration under braking.....
Vibration under braking.....
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davidd

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6,713 posts

313 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
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I presume that when I get a vibration when I brake hard that it is most likely the disks...

The car is a late 2000 4.5, how hard is it to identify which disks I need, get new ones and then change them..?

Or should I be looking at something else?

Cheers

D

sonnylad

1,165 posts

254 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
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First check should be Drag link bushes

Ireland

3,517 posts

243 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
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The discs are the first thing we all blame whan we get a front-end judder but they actually are more likely to NOT be the culprits.

Many of us have found out the hard way that often the most likely things causing the problem are loose / worn bushings and loose / worn / bent suspension bolts.

It can often take quiet a while to figure out where the worn part is and may even involve taking virtually all the front suspension apart before you find it.

Happy hunting ..... smile

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
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Or as in our case, it was just the front discs.

M3John

5,974 posts

248 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
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Apologies for the hijack OP. Glad somebody has brought this up as it reminds me...

Had my discs skimmed recently and am still getting the vibration under braking - although not as bad as i used to but still not good. Whatd'ya think, drag link bushes then?

Edited by M3John on Monday 23 August 20:48

skidoo

400 posts

219 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
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i changed my discs (at great expence)wobbleand still had vibration then changed drag link bushes and its now perfect and only £35 and an hour to fitthumbup

M3John

5,974 posts

248 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
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skidoo said:
i changed my discs (at great expence)wobbleand still had vibration then changed drag link bushes and its now perfect and only £35 and an hour to fitthumbup
Any info on how to do this for us please and is this something that you'd only notice under `progressive` braking?

vroom

665 posts

313 months

Monday 23rd August 2010
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Yup

I brought this up a fortnight or so ago.

I took the advice from here to replace the link bushes and bingo all sorted!

Killer Rhubarb

388 posts

207 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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I had this. Warped disc. I 'braked' it off in the end, if there is such a thing laugh

Allandwf

1,773 posts

224 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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Mine used to do this, but only from cold, standard discs and red stuff pads. Was fine once heated up.

davidd

Original Poster:

6,713 posts

313 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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So, when driving and using the brakes, how can I diagnose this?

I think I dont really notice it at low speeds... I don't really get a throbbing in my foot when I brake very gently.... (if you get my drift). Alas no real chance to check high speed hard braking on my way in today..

D

SI-PEN

1,009 posts

266 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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I had this vibration issue on mine a few years back under braking - I did change the disc's and problem solved. 1998 4.5 at 33k miles.

Si

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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Oh, forgot to mention, we had them skimmed a couple of times, always helped, but never cured it... new disks did. Then new calipers around the 80k mile mark made the brakes even sweeter. They're pretty phenomenal brakes when 100%. smile

skidoo

400 posts

219 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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M3John said:
skidoo said:
i changed my discs (at great expence)wobbleand still had vibration then changed drag link bushes and its now perfect and only £35 and an hour to fitthumbup
Any info on how to do this for us please and is this something that you'd only notice under `progressive` braking?
i found it very easy to do but i have a press if you can borrow the use of one you can do the whole job in and hour press out old bush i used a 15/16 socket to press it out ,a bit of greese in the sleeve and the new one goes in by hand,one bolt in bush end and one in the other end when new bushes are in fit "top hat" spacers from old bushes job done ,NOTE if you get the same polly bushes as me from racing green then it comes with a big washer i only used this in the press and then it went in the bin as not needed yours may? HTH !

Poledriver

29,591 posts

223 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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Don't get distracted from the real problem, it's definitely not a fault with the ABS! smile

skidoo

400 posts

219 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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"ABS"All Brakes Squealingbiggrin

Poledriver

29,591 posts

223 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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skidoo said:
"ABS"All Brakes Squealingbiggrin
You've heard mine then! frown

skidoo

400 posts

219 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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hehe

davidd

Original Poster:

6,713 posts

313 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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skidoo said:
M3John said:
skidoo said:
i changed my discs (at great expence)wobbleand still had vibration then changed drag link bushes and its now perfect and only £35 and an hour to fitthumbup
Any info on how to do this for us please and is this something that you'd only notice under `progressive` braking?
i found it very easy to do but i have a press if you can borrow the use of one you can do the whole job in and hour press out old bush i used a 15/16 socket to press it out ,a bit of greese in the sleeve and the new one goes in by hand,one bolt in bush end and one in the other end when new bushes are in fit "top hat" spacers from old bushes job done ,NOTE if you get the same polly bushes as me from racing green then it comes with a big washer i only used this in the press and then it went in the bin as not needed yours may? HTH !
Anone have a picture of the drag link, is it possible to get a replacement with bushes already in it (I had a lot of bush pain when I did the 1600M).

Cheers

D

Mr Completely

5,151 posts

259 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Had trhe same prob with mine but after a few thousand miles of progressive braking the prob dissappeared. Subsequent conversations suggested that the car had been previoisly left for too long with the pads resting (pr pressed) against the discs which produced a build up of crud. Don't know if that was true but she pulls up smooth and straight some 38K later smile