Track Day Cherry Popped with 3 Full Spins
Track Day Cherry Popped with 3 Full Spins
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Marto303

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162 posts

192 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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Well what a day, a cold wet day at Bedford Autodrome probably not an ideal first time on track in my cerb.
We only booked a taster session mainly to see if my cerb would be within the noise limit of 101db static, it failed at 108db yikes but the guys at Bedford were extremely helpful and as it was so wet, let me on thinking that I would only be tip toeing around and boy were they right. They said that if i failed the drive by limit of 87db I'd be off but no chance of that I could hardly touch the throttle, except up the back straight and there aren't any noise monitors along that biggrin

I managed 6 or 7 3.8 mile laps (first 3 very slowly behind saftey car) and found that my cerb just has no rear end grip at all. 2 very graceful 360's (1 in front of the cafe getmecoat) and 1 more on an off camber lefthander at 70-80mph wobble

Guess I'll have to buy some Track Day silencers for next time and some more grippy rubber yes

Conian

8,030 posts

230 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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and a video mount so we can witness the fun smile

tejr

3,498 posts

193 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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Interested to know what wheels/tyre combo you're using? smile

Marto303

Original Poster:

162 posts

192 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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Conian said:
and a video mount so we can witness the fun smile
No Sorry no video, thought I'd save that for later in the year when I've had a little more experience.

Marto303

Original Poster:

162 posts

192 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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tejr said:
Interested to know what wheels/tyre combo you're using? smile
I have Spiders with 245/40 Dunlop sp9000 on rear & Toyo Proxes 235/40 on the front all a bit shoddy really (but came with the car) and will be replaced before next track day, any recommendations ? is it just tyres that cause this kind of massive over steer?


jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

241 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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Although on a different car and different size, I've found Dunlops to be quite useless in the wet/damp.

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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What's your exhaust combo to give 108?

Marto303

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162 posts

192 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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ridds said:
What's your exhaust combo to give 108?
It has std cats & sports exhaust thats it! not sure what make sports exhaust it was fitted by The Garage before I bought the car.

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Sunday 27th February 2011
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Blimey! Never knew sports pipes were that loud WITH cats!

aubrey9160

396 posts

211 months

Sunday 27th February 2011
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On track you want to change to 225/35 front and 255/35 rear. If you are doing lots of track days get some different wheels as spiders are both heavy and mae of chocolate. RLs work well.

snookes

262 posts

312 months

Sunday 27th February 2011
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What's the procedure for noise testing?

gruffalo

8,150 posts

255 months

Sunday 27th February 2011
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snookes said:
What's the procedure for noise testing?
Normally measured 45deg and 50Cm from one of the exhausts at 4.5K revs.

Mine also normally read around 108dB with the same set up as mentioned here, much loder now with decats and full ACT system, lucky I have some track cans.

Marto303

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162 posts

192 months

Sunday 27th February 2011
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gruffalo said:
Normally measured 45deg and 50Cm from one of the exhausts at 4.5K revs.

Mine also normally read around 108dB with the same set up as mentioned here, much loder now with decats and full ACT system, lucky I have some track cans.
Thats exactly how they tested it, I think if it didn't pop & bang so much the result would have been lower, my mates Chimaera which actually sounds louder only tested at 101db but that doesn't pop & bang.

gruffalo will a pair of the ACT Track Day Cans make enough of a difference for it to pass at 101db test ?

aubrey9160

396 posts

211 months

Sunday 27th February 2011
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my car is about 113db and gets down to 101 with my silencers on so you should pass if you start at 107. but always try to be accelerating when they test it and not decelerating as your pops and bangs will send you over the limit. Hope that makes sence

gruffalo

8,150 posts

255 months

Sunday 27th February 2011
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Marto303 said:
Thats exactly how they tested it, I think if it didn't pop & bang so much the result would have been lower, my mates Chimaera which actually sounds louder only tested at 101db but that doesn't pop & bang.

gruffalo will a pair of the ACT Track Day Cans make enough of a difference for it to pass at 101db test ?
I am not sure, call Tim at ACT and see what he says.

I am booked in at Snetterton on 7th April, 105dB day but worried about the noise testing, with out the track cans my car is a thunderstorm at the moment, I will post the before and after readings when it gets tested so people have an understanding of what the track cans actually do.

Marto303

Original Poster:

162 posts

192 months

Sunday 27th February 2011
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aubrey9160 said:
my car is about 113db and gets down to 101 with my silencers on so you should pass if you start at 107. but always try to be accelerating when they test it and not decelerating as your pops and bangs will send you over the limit. Hope that makes sence
It does thanks

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

241 months

Sunday 27th February 2011
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Lets hope they don't position a tester right before a hairpin!laugh

mikeinsheffield

1,038 posts

214 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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ridds said:
Blimey! Never knew sports pipes were that loud WITH cats!
My 4.2 AJP has sports back box and (new) CATS and is (just) 105 Db

Marto303

Original Poster:

162 posts

192 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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Anyone use the silencer inserts as supplied through www.tvrmonster.com ? (i'd post a link but don't have a clue how to)Are they any good?
They look like a much better idea than the ACT cans IMO.



.Mark

11,104 posts

305 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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ridds said:
Blimey! Never knew sports pipes were that loud WITH cats!
I was measured at 114db with a sports exhaust and a 'prototype' 200 cell metallic CAT.