Syvecs engine management system
Syvecs engine management system
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chrisg4.5

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93 posts

256 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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Having just put a little question on the page for Chimaeras as I have just bought one - like a fool, divorce pending "Is that a promise, darling?" - I remembered I should have posted before about the remarkable improvements wrought to my Cerbera by the Syvecs system installed at Racing Green a few months ago. I am no technician, but I can see the big 410 horsepower number on the graph. The new pull from the engine is terrific - from 1000 revs to 7000 revs in 5th should you feel the need. And the in-gear overtaking acceleration is rather good too. She is not entirely smooth at nose-to-tail, 1st gear speeds, but I have learnt to drive round that and anyway Ryan the Injection Magician will be able to fix it in due course I'm sure. I am mindful of what happened on these forums when - apropos the S6 work these guys did - people got upset about advertising: all I am saying is that I had this done to my car and I like the results. I imagine others would too. Less popping and banging to be sure, but still hardly a stealth weapon: a transformational modification worth looking at. (Also had a Quaife diff and some of the lighter, RG components put in last year - they made a great difference too and started me on this upgrades lark.)

Nickccc

1,682 posts

277 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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I wouldn't think any AJP would like 1000 revs in fifth it'll be shunting badly.
Any way how much did it cost? Hear the syvecs is a good system.

chrisg4.5

Original Poster:

93 posts

256 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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1000 in 5th is not something I find myself using often, but the thing is, it's available; no shunting, honest. If I quote the price will I get closed down?

Nickccc

1,682 posts

277 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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No, unless your profiting from sales. A happy customer can post anything they like, unless Austec are involved
in which case Bodmin will be along shortly telling you how your cars going to explode.

Gazzab

21,638 posts

311 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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Did you lose or gain hp with it? 410 for a red Rose is not good, is the ecu fully tuned up? You should be at a few hp more, but I guess it depends on the dyno.

450Nick

4,027 posts

241 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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Can't comment on it yet as it hasn't yet been run, but my 4.7 race engine will be running on SYVECS. Got it sitting at home ready for the engine to be finished! Not too bothered about smootheness, but knock control, full throttle adaptive mapping, the very adaptable input/outputs and CAN bus link to my logger and digital dash are nice.

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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Is it the S8C? Listed on the syvecs as £2499 +vat!?!?

Plus loom
Plus required sensors
Plus mapping

That's a lot of money.....

450Nick

4,027 posts

241 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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Nah, no need for it. Spoke at length with Ryan at Syvecs, and the S6GP will perform all operations required. It can still run the engine with sequential injection, though this is not necessary in my case. Better to have fired pairs, so a little extra fuel is used to cool the cylinders, between cycles. My injectors will still be running at half the speed of an MBE controlled car though, and I will be running Bosche 440cc/min uprated injectors anyway.

The only thing the S6 can't do it run twin lambda sensors, but I will plug a second one in via the 0-5v input with an external controller, so it will be running EGT, twin lambdas, knock control, and monitoring fuel pressure, air temp, oil temp, oil press, then running a separate electric water pump for each bank (each controlled off a separate temp sensor on its respective bank so both banks are kept optimal). Looks to be a decent bit of kit, and well priced too. Just got to jivvy Austec into getting the motor finished now!

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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How are you planning on calibrating the knock control and optimising the sensors positions?

Cylinder pressure transducers? Or just suck it and see?

450Nick

4,027 posts

241 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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If I'm honest, I have no idea - that's Ryan's department. I know he's done it successfully on his Tuscan and a Cerb though so it apprently works. I just want as many measures in place as poss to keep this engine in one piece as its proved to be f**ing expensive!

DuncanM

7,460 posts

308 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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Just bumping this as I am interested in how much the OP paid?


ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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Well the S6GP is £1299+ Vat, add on £2-400 for a loom and £200 for required sensors.

Then I'd say at least £500 of mapping time and fuel.

You've got to be looking at £3000 I reckon.

450Nick

4,027 posts

241 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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ridds said:
Well the S6GP is £1299+ Vat, add on £2-400 for a loom and £200 for required sensors.

Then I'd say at least £500 of mapping time and fuel.

You've got to be looking at £3000 I reckon.
Loom-wise, I think for the Cerb Ryan does an adapter plug so no need for a new loom.

chrisg4.5

Original Poster:

93 posts

256 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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Sorry to have kept you in suspense - am in another time zone. The cost for the full Syvecs deal was £2500 + VAT. (And we know how much we love VAT.) It improves pretty much everything - including the power.. Having followed these forums for quite a few years, I thought it was widely acknowledged that the big power numbers were more often observed in the breach (although I do always tell my son to point out the power-to-weight ratio and the hp figure in Evo, while adding that being Red Rose spec "ours is even better"..) I thought 410 was pretty good - I must try turning it up a bit, then! There's been supercharger talk....?

Gazzab

21,638 posts

311 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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My red rose isnt totally optimised (ie not a fully remap etc) but has had some head mods and is at 436 or something like that. Pre head work it was 415 I think.