The Aventador and its Corsa gearbox mode

[Streetrod]

I suspect like a lot of you that you have been poring over the various reviews that are now appearing in the mags and online on the Aventador. All have mentioned the violence of the gear change when the car is in Corsa mode and having seen the videos I can see what they mean. Lamborghini have said they want owners to experience the emotion of the gear change (Sic!)

My questions are these. Is such a violent and mechanically un-sympathetic gear change going to wreak havoc with the transmission and drive train components and what will be the effect on the balance of the car during a high speed mid corner gear changes? I know none of us have driven one yet but would be interested in the speculation.

Even Harry Metcalf describes it as a gearbox breaker. I'm just hoping that we don’t end up with a GT-R type situation where Nissan would void your warrantee if you dared to use launch control because of the effect it would have on the gearbox.

http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/planetevovideos/267901...

[DayTrader]

Streetrod said:

I suspect like a lot of you that you have been poring over the various reviews that are now appearing in the mags and online on the Aventador. All have mentioned the violence of the gear change when the car is in Corsa mode and having seen the videos I can see what they mean. Lamborghini have said they want owners to experience the emotion of the gear change (Sic!)

My questions are these. Is such a violent and mechanically un-sympathetic gear change going to wreak havoc with the transmission and drive train components and what will be the effect on the balance of the car during a high speed mid corner gear changes? I know none of us have driven one yet but would be interested in the speculation.

Even Harry Metcalf describes it as a gearbox breaker. I'm just hoping that we don’t end up with a GT-R type situation where Nissan would void your warrantee if you dared to use launch control because of the effect it would have on the gearbox.

http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/planetevovideos/267901...

FYI Nissan don't void the warranty if you launch the car...this is a myth.

[Streetrod]

If I got that wrong I apologise, its just that it was big news a couple of yeara ago

[iandc]

Streetrod said:

I suspect like a lot of you that you have been poring over the various reviews that are now appearing in the mags and online on the Aventador. All have mentioned the violence of the gear change when the car is in Corsa mode and having seen the videos I can see what they mean. Lamborghini have said they want owners to experience the emotion of the gear change (Sic!)

My questions are these. Is such a violent and mechanically un-sympathetic gear change going to wreak havoc with the transmission and drive train components and what will be the effect on the balance of the car during a high speed mid corner gear changes? I know none of us have driven one yet but would be interested in the speculation.

Even Harry Metcalf describes it as a gearbox breaker. I'm just hoping that we don’t end up with a GT-R type situation where Nissan would void your warrantee if you dared to use launch control because of the effect it would have on the gearbox.

http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/planetevovideos/267901...

Surely its designed in that way so I can't imagine it breaking the transmission otherwise a massively expensive route to gaining the driving experience for Lamborghini. As for mid corner gearchanges isn't it preferable to get the braking and gear changing done BEFORE you enter the corner. In a manual you would not want to be changing mid corner so why try it with an auto?

[Wayney]

Corsa mode is for showing off to your friends, I can't see it being any quicker gear change. If your looking to do a fast lap best to keep it in Sport. Showing off to your mates def Corsa. I drove the LP560-4 in Corsa and it was very violent but at the same time, very satisfying compared to a F430! But you could not drive in the mode for long as you'll feel sick. Short point and squirt blasts on A roads. Glad to see Lambo is taking a different approach

[R11ysf]

Did anyone watch the videos?? He said you have to be flat out to get the full 50ms gearbox change. So I imagine if you are mid corner in Corsa on a track with T/C off then you won't be full throttle, so even if you do change up you will get a normal change.

[LamboBrum]

From what I have experienced of this car, engineering integrity is NOT it's weakpoint.

The gearbox doesn't even have any exposed hydraulics, it's all cast into the gearbox casing itself to remove the risks associated with hoses, joints and the like.

The full-ferocity gearchanges only accur above 6Krpm and with full throttle, otherwise it's perfectly (un)civilised in Corsa mode - it's a Lambo, it isn't gonna go quietly. Don't lose any sleep!

[andrew]

a bit of an o/t here, but if anyone on here ordered the matt black aventador that they were finishing yesterday afternoon, you lucky, lucky b

[AndrewD]

andrew said:

a bit of an o/t here, but if anyone on here ordered the matt black aventador that they were finishing yesterday afternoon, you lucky, lucky b

You didn't leave a bit of your DNA in it did you, please tell me you didn't?

[andrew]

AndrewD said:

andrew said:

a bit of an o/t here, but if anyone on here ordered the matt black aventador that they were finishing yesterday afternoon, you lucky, lucky b

You didn't leave a bit of your DNA in it did you, please tell me you didn't?

i did play with mold in the machine for stamping bulls in leather
if we had somebody who knows what they're talking about on here, then they could doubtless estimate how many new lambos have my dna on their headrests

[iandc]

Wayney said:

Corsa mode is for showing off to your friends, I can't see it being any quicker gear change. If your looking to do a fast lap best to keep it in Sport. Showing off to your mates def Corsa. I drove the LP560-4 in Corsa and it was very violent but at the same time, very satisfying compared to a F430! But you could not drive in the mode for long as you'll feel sick. Short point and squirt blasts on A roads. Glad to see Lambo is taking a different approach

I have a 560-4 and drive it all the time in corsa. No problem and the hard gear changes are only noticable if flat out, changing up at near max revs and no lift off. I am still waiting to feel sick after 12 months including the Alps and Dolomites. In Corsa the valves in the exhaust open sooner and changes are noticably faster. Auto is horrible!!

[LamboBrum]

andrew said:

a bit of an o/t here, but if anyone on here ordered the matt black aventador that they were finishing yesterday afternoon, you lucky, lucky b

Our first Customer car is Nero Nemesis - any yellow bits in it? Calipers / Alcantara etc?

[andrew]

LamboBrum said:

andrew said:

a bit of an o/t here, but if anyone on here ordered the matt black aventador that they were finishing yesterday afternoon, you lucky, lucky b

Our first Customer car is Nero Nemesis - any yellow bits in it? Calipers / Alcantara etc?

lhd with us indicator repeaters

ps : i'd be really keen to see your customer's car when it arrives please

pps : if you get any gallardos delivered without door handles...