Stradale buying advice
Stradale buying advice
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Craig

Original Poster:

1,212 posts

315 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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I'm thinking about buying a Stradale and trying to do some research into what to look for.

I assume the main areas to check are clutch, brakes, service history?

I have enquired about the car at Cortese here

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2590539.htm

They tell me the brakes are 52% worn so I assume this refers to the pads as opposed to the discs? Do the ceramics ever 'wear out'?

Does anyone know the car?

thanks

Craig


UH-Matt

2,173 posts

271 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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Ceramics can wear out (but should not if driven kindly), you'd neeed to know if that car has done 20k miles around a track or not. Ask them what the reading refers to.

Craig

Original Poster:

1,212 posts

315 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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UH-Matt said:
Ceramics can wear out (but should not if driven kindly), you'd neeed to know if that car has done 20k miles around a track or not. Ask them what the reading refers to.
they told me it refers to the pads hence wondering how you know if the discs are OK

johnnyreggae

3,171 posts

191 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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There's a couple of dedicated sites which might help

www.stradale.info

http://www.challenge-stradale.com

iandc

3,893 posts

237 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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UH-Matt said:
Ceramics can wear out (but should not if driven kindly), you'd neeed to know if that car has done 20k miles around a track or not. Ask them what the reading refers to.
If the pads are only 52% worn after 21000 then unlikely it has been tracked that much unless they didn't brake much!! How long are ceramic pads expected to last (I know it depens on driving etc but there must be an "average" guide I guess).

Craig

Original Poster:

1,212 posts

315 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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iandc said:
If the pads are only 52% worn after 21000 then unlikely it has been tracked that much unless they didn't brake much!! How long are ceramic pads expected to last (I know it depens on driving etc but there must be an "average" guide I guess).
depends if they are the original ones...

Candellara

1,890 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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52% - They'll be referring to the brake wear on the SD2 not brake pads. It'd be impossible to determine 52% wear on a set of pads.

Strad's ceramic discs do wear and assume they are 50% worn. A new set of discs / pads all round is approx £12k

Also, ask for the Clutch wear reading and get them to verify the mileage on the gearbox TCU

Plenum chambers can be an issue on Stradales, and they are not a cheap fix. Check that the engine doesn't sound "tappety".

Normal other things - Ball joints wear out. Check the car doesn't creak or knock over speed bumps. Alcantara on the dash can fade. Exhaust valves (open with race mode on) wear out (check by listening at idle for a rattle. Again, not cheap at about £1500 per side.

Hope this helps

Soovy

35,829 posts

302 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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Candellara said:
A new set of discs / pads all round is approx £12k
Jesus T1ttyf kcing CHRIST!

yikes

Candellara

1,890 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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Soovy said:
Jesus T1ttyf kcing CHRIST!

yikes
My CS at 5k miles, new pads all round, new rear tyres, n/s ball joint, 6250 service, new plenum chamber - Total £12,000

It was quite good after that. At 7500 miles - New exhaust required (baffles gone) - nearly £3000

Lovely cars though

UH-Matt

2,173 posts

271 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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iandc said:
UH-Matt said:
Ceramics can wear out (but should not if driven kindly), you'd neeed to know if that car has done 20k miles around a track or not. Ask them what the reading refers to.
If the pads are only 52% worn after 21000 then unlikely it has been tracked that much unless they didn't brake much!! How long are ceramic pads expected to last (I know it depens on driving etc but there must be an "average" guide I guess).
Yes but first need to determine the reading they are talking about.

If its from the computer then as someone above said, it probably is the discs.. Also pads could have been changed before now.

Soovy

35,829 posts

302 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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Candellara said:
Soovy said:
Jesus T1ttyf kcing CHRIST!

yikes
My CS at 5k miles, new pads all round, new rear tyres, n/s ball joint, 6250 service, new plenum chamber - Total £12,000

It was quite good after that. At 7500 miles - New exhaust required (baffles gone) - nearly £3000

Lovely cars though
*folds 360CS brochure up with sad face*

Candellara

1,890 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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IIRC my CS when sold at 8k miles was Clutch wear 14% and Brakes at 21% and it'd had a set of pads all round at 5,000 miles.

So brake wear of 50% on the discs is about right at 20,000 miles?

Candellara

1,890 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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Soovy said:
*folds 360CS brochure up with sad face*
My car was unlucky with the Plenum i think (but it is a known 360/CS issue), but maintainence costs are commensurate with a car that was £130k+ when new

jb9193

809 posts

198 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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johnnyreggae said:
Just saw this on the above site and I think it's absolutely stunning!
Never seen one like that before!


neil-f

1,647 posts

238 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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My CS is on 16k and the brake disc wear is 21% clutch 11%
The pads have been changed but car is on original clutch.
If the car is sold by Official Ferrari dealer they will replace if disc wear on SD3 is 40% or more.

Candellara

1,890 posts

213 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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neil-f said:
My CS is on 16k and the brake disc wear is 21% clutch 11%
The pads have been changed but car is on original clutch.
If the car is sold by Official Ferrari dealer they will replace if disc wear on SD3 is 40% or more.
Any pics of your new acquisition yet Neil?

SpeedYellow

2,533 posts

258 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Brakes where expensive on the CS I had, need discs and pads at 4k miles after a Spa trip, back then Ferrari were very good and contributed half the parts cost and all the labour as they weren't expecting them to go that quickly! They did work extremely well though if a little noisy and wooden at low speed on the road.

Wonder what happened to my old car, one of the only ones ordered with plexi glass leaky side windows... did add to the drama though! When I specified it seemed a shame to dump one of the biggest weight saving items (also was no radio etc) but seemed like I was about the only one who ordered it this way from new.

SpeedYellow

2,533 posts

258 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Oh and the other thing you never want to have to replace is a wing mirror. Some nice person snapped one of mine off when it was parked in London by the side of the road for 10 minutes... Think it was nearly £3k fitted from memory and took forever to come from the factory!

Soovy

35,829 posts

302 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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SpeedYellow said:
Oh and the other thing you never want to have to replace is a wing mirror. Some nice person snapped one of mine off when it was parked in London by the side of the road for 10 minutes... Think it was nearly £3k fitted from memory and took forever to come from the factory!
thud

neil-f

1,647 posts

238 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Candellara said:
Any pics of your new acquisition yet Neil?
Jason,got it home last Saturday after M25 part of the trip it was superb on the B roads as you say so much narrower than CS,spent all Sunday cleaning it, will get you some pictures this weekend(will post on CS)! Love itbiggrin