F355 oil pressure issues
F355 oil pressure issues
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Jonty355

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4,423 posts

229 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Ok, so the 355 is being a tempremental old girl again!

On Sunday after the car had been driven hard (not on public roads), the oil was hotter than normal road use, the oil pressure dropped a lot when I then slowed down, and when the car returned to tickover the warning light came on for a second or 2, then back off, but I turned the engine straight off anyway, and decided to get the car recovered home to be on the safe side.

When I got the car home I had to start her up to put her into the garage, and the oil pressure was normal for a cold engine (about the 70 mark).

The following day I tried it again and yet again, it was at the 70 mark, so I decided that the following day I would drive it to where I get it serviced, about 10 miles away.

So the following morning I come and get in the car, fire it up, and the oil pressure is now only half what it had been the previous 2 times, and it was shifting about a bit. So I decided to turn it off and leave it where it was to play safe again.

Anyone ever had an issue like this before? Any ideas what could be wrong with it? What things should I check before getting the engine ripped apart and rebuilt?

VML

562 posts

191 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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The very first thing you should do is ensure your oil pressure sender is not faulty. As this seems to be an intermittant issue, it might be an idea to remove the sender totally, insert a oil pressure gauge, and over the course of a week or two, continue to start up, switch off, rev up and record your results, thus eleminating the oil pressure sender


VML

F355GTS

3,793 posts

271 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Having the light come on intermittently at idle when the oil is very hot is quite normal as is the 70psi cold idle/ running (prv is set to around 70 in any event).

Your second problem of fluctuating and lower than normal readings sounds like a faulty sensor or bad connection, definitely worth checking this first

SpeedYellow

2,533 posts

243 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Yup had this from a dodgy sender unit, dealer said it was a common problem. It's easy to change as it's just by the oil filter on the top of the engine so 5 minute job.

(I had a heart attack as well when the light came on!)

Jonty355

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Thursday 16th June 2011
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Cheers for the prompt replies chaps! Hopefully it is just the sender unit and the fact the oil was very hot then.

Are there any known problems that can cause low oil pressure on the 355... I know I'm probably worrying too much, but dont want to risk anything that might result in a costly rebuild?

Jonty355

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Thursday 16th June 2011
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Just been reading the valve guides issue... is this something I should be worrying about?

jdw1234

6,021 posts

231 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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This is worth reading matey.

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5554...

I really wouldn't panic - the engines are very strong and if the guides are starting to go I don't think it would cause catastrophic engine damage over night.

You could tie up replacing the guides with an engine out cambelt service which in the grand scheme of running a car like that isn't going to cost the earth.

Sleep well and don't panic!!!


SpeedYellow

2,533 posts

243 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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valve guides first indication of problem is lots of smoke not low oil pressure, so unless you've got a smokey engine it's very unlikely to be that.

Jonty355

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Thursday 16th June 2011
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Cheers for the link, puts me at ease a bit.

By smoking, do you mean all the time, as I've had the occaisional bit when starting from cold and usually when its been started up for just a few minutes at a time for moving it in and out of the garage, then after a few times of that I'll get a bit on start-up.

Edited by Jonty355 on Thursday 16th June 12:45

jdw1234

6,021 posts

231 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Jonty355 said:
Cheers for the link, puts me at ease a bit.

By smoking, do you mean all the time, as I've had the occaisional bit when starting from cold and usually when its been started up for just a few minutes at a time for moving it in and out of the garage, then after a few times of that I'll get a bit on start-up.

Edited by Jonty355 on Thursday 16th June 12:45
Thats called condensation mate.

Get the car diagnosed at a garage before you get a stomach ulcer.

:-)



Jonty355

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Thursday 16th June 2011
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Will do, cheers for the advice! Cant help but worry about the thing though!

iandc

3,836 posts

222 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Jonty355 said:
Will do, cheers for the advice! Cant help but worry about the thing though!
Do you really think a 355 is for you with your paranoid concerns!! Perhaps a Skoda or Toyota (oh no they get lots of recalls) is for you. I just have this vision of every time you start it up, panic sets in!!! eek

Jonty355

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Thursday 16th June 2011
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Far from it, most of the time I treat it like a normal car, but when something does go wrong that could potentially cost megabucks, then I worry! If my valves are shagged then its a full engine strip down!

If I worried about it that much, I wouldn't have been driving it like I did last Sunday! At least I found the limits of the car though.... either that or ran out of talent!!! Either way, I spun it!

Chris honeywell

23 posts

194 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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M8 almost all oil pressure issue's on the 355 are the sender just replaced mine for something similar although mine was massively over-reading.

Jonty355

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Thursday 16th June 2011
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Cheers Chris, I'm hoping thats what it is.

Just out of interest anyone, at this temperature:


At tickover, is this about right for the pressure or a bit low?

F355GTS

3,793 posts

271 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Mines similar at hot idle

Jonty355

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229 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Ok, cheers.

These cars never make sense do they? So might be that I dont even have a problem at all, and its just my oil was too hot and maybe gone off. Weird!!!

iandc

3,836 posts

222 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Jonty355 said:
Far from it, most of the time I treat it like a normal car, but when something does go wrong that could potentially cost megabucks, then I worry! If my valves are shagged then its a full engine strip down!

If I worried about it that much, I wouldn't have been driving it like I did last Sunday! At least I found the limits of the car though.... either that or ran out of talent!!! Either way, I spun it!
Glad you enjoyed it at the weekend. At least you reached the limits safely. Hope the oil issue is just a "cheap" sender.

Jonty355

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Thursday 16th June 2011
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iandc said:
Glad you enjoyed it at the weekend. At least you reached the limits safely. Hope the oil issue is just a "cheap" sender.
Yeah really enjoyed it, and was a definitel learning curve. Turns out my 'hairdressers' spider 355 is a bit soft on the rear! So goes light on the back end when turning in a bit hot, and it just whippped me round into a 360 degree spin!

On the plus side it made for some amazing drifts out of corners when it pissed it down with rain! Nothing like the buzz of giving a Ferrari some quick opposite lock! Marvellous!

Chris honeywell

23 posts

194 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Your pressure at idle is exactly where mine is and you oil temp is fine ( mine tends to run slightly hotter though) after a good few miles