yellow LP400 joe sackey and craig
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Hi both, way back i had to eat humble pie as i said the car was owned by jay kay and you two got me to believe i was wrong and it was owned by toby smith( i think it was).....but guess what, i met Jay Kay at goodwood this weekend and we were talking LP400s he said he owned the car and it was not owned by any other member of the band. So just for the record.
But incidentally and more importantly i met the owner of a 74 LP400 which i think is blood orange and it is apparently the only one sent back to the factory for performance upgrades ( engine only...body as per normal) Have you guys any info on this? Or anybody else on this forum.
But incidentally and more importantly i met the owner of a 74 LP400 which i think is blood orange and it is apparently the only one sent back to the factory for performance upgrades ( engine only...body as per normal) Have you guys any info on this? Or anybody else on this forum.
Edited by orangeLP400 on Tuesday 5th July 23:23
Toby Smith did own a yellow Countach LP400, chassis # 1120168.
He personally offered the car for sale in Classic & Sports Car several years back, I do not have the copy immediately to hand but will confirm the issue date at some point if anyone is interested.
I personally assisted the next owner (after Smith) in collating historical data and gathered a lot of media material regarding this car.
It was featured in Auto Italia, Classic & Sports Car et al
Paul
He personally offered the car for sale in Classic & Sports Car several years back, I do not have the copy immediately to hand but will confirm the issue date at some point if anyone is interested.
I personally assisted the next owner (after Smith) in collating historical data and gathered a lot of media material regarding this car.
It was featured in Auto Italia, Classic & Sports Car et al
Paul
P4ULH said:
Toby Smith did own a yellow Countach LP400, chassis # 1120168.
He personally offered the car for sale in Classic & Sports Car several years back, I do not have the copy immediately to hand but will confirm the issue date at some point if anyone is interested.
I personally assisted the next owner (after Smith) in collating historical data and gathered a lot of media material regarding this car.
It was featured in Auto Italia, Classic & Sports Car et al
Paul
Agreed, Toby Smith was the owner of 1120168. I tried to buy this car from Garage on the Green back in 2001, who were selling it on behalf of Toby. I spoke to Toby personally about the car to get some more info. The deal fell through when GOTG took it to Lambo UK for an inspection for me and was told it needed £20k of work to get it through an MOT. I personally didn't believe that, but GOTG lost interest in trying to secure the sale. It was all a bit strange. Apparently, I wasn't the first to try to buy it from GOTG and previous parties hit the same wall.He personally offered the car for sale in Classic & Sports Car several years back, I do not have the copy immediately to hand but will confirm the issue date at some point if anyone is interested.
I personally assisted the next owner (after Smith) in collating historical data and gathered a lot of media material regarding this car.
It was featured in Auto Italia, Classic & Sports Car et al
Paul
I may still have the Classic & Sportscar Mag that road tested it against a 365BB. I recall it has quotes from Toby as the owner & a picture of him with the car.
Years later I got an email from the Lambo Registry to supply some info on the car as it disappeared for a while when GOTG closed.
Edited by Aero8 on Thursday 7th July 08:27
i originally saw this yellow lp400 in about feb or march 2001 at 'garage on the green'
the owner then took it back, and about a month later i test-drove it with him for about 1/2 an hour in london
if i remember correctly , he had something to do with pop music , and was selling the car to get a kitchen or a home extension or some such thing
he wanted £37,500 for it
it was a very nice car , with an immaculate exterior , but unrefurbished interior
it felt delicate to drive , and i didn't , in that very short drive, totally gel with it
i eventually got my 881/2 qv in late may of 2001 after a 2 amd a half year search, which is still the jewel in my (very humble )crown
the owner then took it back, and about a month later i test-drove it with him for about 1/2 an hour in london
if i remember correctly , he had something to do with pop music , and was selling the car to get a kitchen or a home extension or some such thing
he wanted £37,500 for it
it was a very nice car , with an immaculate exterior , but unrefurbished interior
it felt delicate to drive , and i didn't , in that very short drive, totally gel with it
i eventually got my 881/2 qv in late may of 2001 after a 2 amd a half year search, which is still the jewel in my (very humble )crown
Hi Stephen
Sorry for the delayed response - just back from hols.
It does indeed seem this was Toby Smith's car then...I remember seeing it for sale at Garage on the Green too (great place to see some rarities at the time - a bit like Pullicino). I heard it sold for £33k. It had a complete restoration by Del Hopkins of the body and interior but the engine was untouched. Even if it needed £20k spending on the engine at the time it would have been a wise investment. I understand the current owner bought it as an investment and rarely uses it - I last saw it at Mike Pullen's a few years back when in for a service.
As to the orange LP400 you mention - is this Richard Earl's car?
Craig
Sorry for the delayed response - just back from hols.
It does indeed seem this was Toby Smith's car then...I remember seeing it for sale at Garage on the Green too (great place to see some rarities at the time - a bit like Pullicino). I heard it sold for £33k. It had a complete restoration by Del Hopkins of the body and interior but the engine was untouched. Even if it needed £20k spending on the engine at the time it would have been a wise investment. I understand the current owner bought it as an investment and rarely uses it - I last saw it at Mike Pullen's a few years back when in for a service.
As to the orange LP400 you mention - is this Richard Earl's car?
Craig
Craig said:
It was Stephen asking the question so it's not his - see first post
I obviously misinterpreted the first post and to which orange LP400 this thread was referring too.The orange LP400 I referenced in my above post was the one pictured below at Goodwood, entered in the Cartier Style et Luxe by Stephen Ward.
Wires crossed.
Apologies.
Paul
Craig said:
Hi Stephen
Sorry for the delayed response - just back from hols.
It does indeed seem this was Toby Smith's car then...I remember seeing it for sale at Garage on the Green too (great place to see some rarities at the time - a bit like Pullicino). I heard it sold for £33k. It had a complete restoration by Del Hopkins of the body and interior but the engine was untouched. Even if it needed £20k spending on the engine at the time it would have been a wise investment. I understand the current owner bought it as an investment and rarely uses it - I last saw it at Mike Pullen's a few years back when in for a service.
As to the orange LP400 you mention - is this Richard Earl's car?
Craig
Dont tell me i have to eat humble pie again!!! but i related what i was told by , i think u will all agree, a creditable source. Anyway,on the other matter, no, i was not refering to Richards car which i know.....this car is in Europe and owned by a motor manufacturing family of long standing.Sorry for the delayed response - just back from hols.
It does indeed seem this was Toby Smith's car then...I remember seeing it for sale at Garage on the Green too (great place to see some rarities at the time - a bit like Pullicino). I heard it sold for £33k. It had a complete restoration by Del Hopkins of the body and interior but the engine was untouched. Even if it needed £20k spending on the engine at the time it would have been a wise investment. I understand the current owner bought it as an investment and rarely uses it - I last saw it at Mike Pullen's a few years back when in for a service.
As to the orange LP400 you mention - is this Richard Earl's car?
Craig
P4ULH said:
The orange car at Goodwood is owned by Stephen Ward.
Paul
Nice pic of my car so thank u....the organisers were amazed i drove it down from York to Goodwood and back...we left at 4 in the morning and it was a great drive and took all our cases for a week away plus black tie dinner gear, tool kit and spares and a car cover in a bag, plus some sandwiches and fruit....we stopped for coffee about half way but arrived relaxed and even my bad back was fine...who says a countach doesn't make a great touring car!!Paul
orangeLP400 said:
Nice pic of my car so thank u....the organisers were amazed i drove it down from York to Goodwood and back...we left at 4 in the morning and it was a great drive and took all our cases for a week away plus black tie dinner gear, tool kit and spares and a car cover in a bag, plus some sandwiches and fruit....we stopped for coffee about half way but arrived relaxed and even my bad back was fine...who says a countach doesn't make a great touring car!!
Beautiful car, the nicest Countach by a country mile. Such a pure shape. 
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