Scuderia's and track days
Scuderia's and track days
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Chris9999

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33 posts

212 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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I'm considering a Scuderia and was wondering if they are too noisy for most track days. Also, do they require lot's of maintenance if they are used on track - eg brakes or are they pretty durable? I'm also considering a GT3 RS and I assume that they are more durable?

pistolp

1,719 posts

253 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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You will have an issue with noise on most days, I am not sure of the exact db rating but it is probably over 105 so you are stuffed unless you go on a noisy day. A good option is to go for the car and buy another exhaust, there are lots of options but FF Corse based at Silverstone do one that will sort all your trackday issues and costs 2k which isn't bad. The brakes should be fine, certainly no worse than Porsche ceramics. A friend has used his CS on track quite alot and the brakes have been fine, you will have to put your hand in your pocket eventually but you need to weight that up against how much fun you've had.
Both cars you mention will be fantastic, I would go for the Scud though because Ferraris are just a bit more exciting. Also easier to live with due to the F1 box which is quite nice after a long afternoon at the track.
Either car and you won't be upset. Ideally both.

Murcielago_Boy

2,014 posts

270 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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I had the FF Corse thing on mine when bought. I took it off and realised how much power it had been sapping. Worked though.

UH-Matt

2,173 posts

271 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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I know someone (mosi) who has a set of steel brakes for Scud if you wanted those for track (so as not to use up or destroy the ceramics) they were put on his car by the last guy who didn't want big ceramic brake bills and he is now taking them off...

Chris9999

Original Poster:

33 posts

212 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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Thanks for the info, sounds doable. Anyone know if Donnington is very noise restrictive?

DMC2

2,005 posts

242 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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Chris9999 said:
Thanks for the info, sounds doable. Anyone know if Donnington is very noise restrictive?
Oh yes, very restrictive.

Jonty355

4,423 posts

244 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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Try Blyton Park circuit in Lincolnshire.... It has NO NOISE RESTRICTION!!!!!

Did a track day there organised by the Supercardriver.com supercar club recently with my 355, which is 107db on tickover, and some very very loud Stradales! And I mean loud!

Was a great day, and the track is great for taking your pride and joy on, as its almost impossible to have a big 'off'. There is lots of run off areas that are concrete. Also, the track itself is very nice smooth tarmac, and caused very little tyre-wear, but still had loads of grip! Well worth a try!

sa_20v

4,114 posts

262 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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DMC2 said:
Chris9999 said:
Thanks for the info, sounds doable. Anyone know if Donnington is very noise restrictive?
Oh yes, very restrictive.
Hilarious when you consider there's a damn airport beside the track! hehe

traxx

3,143 posts

253 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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I took my Scuderia to Donnington/Brands and Silverstone - always ok

Just make sure its in wet mode for doing a static noise test and then when they tell you to rev it at 3/4 just keep it below 50%

johnnyreggae

3,171 posts

191 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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Chris9999 said:
Anyone know if Donnington is very noise restrictive?
All tracks have different limits and the days tend to vary according to how much the organiser pays - most Donington days are 98 db - some are 105 db - a few unlimited

Even the new Lincolnshire place advertises itself as 105 db I think

FactoryPilot

1,352 posts

247 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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I ran a Scud and a GT3RS together for a bit and I honestly believe that the GT3RS 3.8 is a better track car. I always found the Scud used to dive and pitch quite a bit, plus the front bumper on the Scud does not let enough cool air into the front discs, so on track you can easily cook the brakes - even with Ceramics. There's a lot of mod's that you can do to Scud to make it be one of the fastest cars on track (you only have to see Panic's one) but then it becomes very expensive and people are always a bit snobbish when it comes to modding a Scud.

The scud is ultimately faster in a straight line, but I'm 100% convinced that I could get around the Nordschleife a lot quicker in the RS than I could in a std scud.

Mosi

2,040 posts

246 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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As Matt says above, I'm putting the ceramics back on my Scud

Therefore will have a nice newish (3k miles) fancy steel set up gathering dust soon

Let me know if you are interested

Diamond blue

3,288 posts

231 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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Mosi said:
As Matt says above, I'm putting the ceramics back on my Scud

Therefore will have a nice newish (3k miles) fancy steel set up gathering dust soon

Let me know if you are interested
Mos,

What sort of set up are the steels, just discs or bells as well. Not that impressed with the ceramics on my Scud tbh. Good but not as good as the Porsche on the road and annoyingly "scratchy" when taking it easy.

leeGT2

311 posts

190 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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Diamond blue said:
Mos,

What sort of set up are the steels, just discs or bells as well. Not that impressed with the ceramics on my Scud tbh. Good but not as good as the Porsche on the road and annoyingly "scratchy" when taking it easy.
I agree with you on that one too! Ceramics on porshe seemed to be better on the stopping power. Additionaly, when I look on the ceramics of the ferrari, they seem to look more worn out than the ones' on the Porsche. The carbon discs tend to look quite rough on the surface far quicker than the Porsche. Eventhough not as good as the Porsche in my mind, I dont think I would swap them for steels as they seem to be good enough. Unless of course you may take on many trackdays.

Mosi

2,040 posts

246 months

Saturday 1st October 2011
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Diamond blue said:
Mos,

What sort of set up are the steels, just discs or bells as well. Not that impressed with the ceramics on my Scud tbh. Good but not as good as the Porsche on the road and annoyingly "scratchy" when taking it easy.
DB, sorry for the late reply on this one.....my Scud steels are for sale if you fancy them:

http://www.fcars.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?45109-...


911Thrasher

2,573 posts

230 months

Saturday 1st October 2011
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I run a 997.1 GT3RS and considering a CS actually.

In terms of noise I'm on the limit at Bedford on the static test and I only rev at 5,000 when they ask for 6,000 (75%), but then they know I don't run to the max around the track.

Otherwise I track at Spa, and thereof course no problem at all - I've seen GT3RS with Akrapovic titanium exhaust which are much louder there - and again no prob.

In terms of ceramics, I have them and no problem at all - they go forever: i usually track 30min at the time...and no fading what so ever! Just make sure you change your pads at 60/65% don't risk the discs, they are expensive.
My car is now 24kmiles and ceramics are as new...but on my 4th round of pads though.
Go for it, whichever you choose.

woppum

1,137 posts

217 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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FactoryPilot said:
The scud is ultimately faster in a straight line, but I'm 100% convinced that I could get around the Nordschleife a lot quicker in the RS than I could in a std scud.
Now I'm convinced blue is the fastest colour. There was nothing in it on the straight at silly with panic, or through itally against Martin. It looks coolest too! wink