How many miles is reasonable in a year?
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Reading Evos new car showroom section and their piece on a Carrera GT with 37k miles being worth a cheeky bid of £200k prompts me to think.
Why is it that any pukka "supercar" that does more than 2.5k miles a year falls of a cliff residual wise.
If a CGT with less than 15k is up around £300k then how can it be worth a third less because its been used for 6k miles per annum rather than 2,500.
In my experience a car thats used regularly suffers far fewer problems than one that sits around in a garage for months on end.
Other examples offhand, the Scuderia at William Loughran with 19k is the cheapest in the country by more than 10k and is welded to their showroom floor. Seemed a decent enough car. 2 owners, not the best spec but decent provenance. Seems that if you actually "use" a car of this type , like Ferrari and others claim they are now designed to do, its very difficult to sell on.
Why is it that any pukka "supercar" that does more than 2.5k miles a year falls of a cliff residual wise.
If a CGT with less than 15k is up around £300k then how can it be worth a third less because its been used for 6k miles per annum rather than 2,500.
In my experience a car thats used regularly suffers far fewer problems than one that sits around in a garage for months on end.
Other examples offhand, the Scuderia at William Loughran with 19k is the cheapest in the country by more than 10k and is welded to their showroom floor. Seemed a decent enough car. 2 owners, not the best spec but decent provenance. Seems that if you actually "use" a car of this type , like Ferrari and others claim they are now designed to do, its very difficult to sell on.
as a buyer looking for a low miles gallardo, it is not the miles themselves that is the issue.....
having said that, i want a car with <4k/year on it...
more miles = more use and the more wear and tear...... on the exterior and interior....
a car used only in sunny weather at the weekends will look fresher than a regular used car....
chip marks are inevitable given the state of the roads....
the leather cracks and scuffs, esp on verts if exposed to the sun a lot....
sure mechanically, the components are desgined to be used.... f1 engines never seem to blow up anymore, adding to the boredom of late.... it's not the wear here that matters....
one also incorrectly assumes a low miles car will have been nutured by it's owner... could be false... easy to abuse a car once in a while.... after i brought my first car, i caught the train to work for the next 3 years, and though it was a 'garage queen' i made sure i started it every weekend and took it for a run, and it was no supercar....
having said that, i want a car with <4k/year on it...
more miles = more use and the more wear and tear...... on the exterior and interior....
a car used only in sunny weather at the weekends will look fresher than a regular used car....
chip marks are inevitable given the state of the roads....
the leather cracks and scuffs, esp on verts if exposed to the sun a lot....
sure mechanically, the components are desgined to be used.... f1 engines never seem to blow up anymore, adding to the boredom of late.... it's not the wear here that matters....
one also incorrectly assumes a low miles car will have been nutured by it's owner... could be false... easy to abuse a car once in a while.... after i brought my first car, i caught the train to work for the next 3 years, and though it was a 'garage queen' i made sure i started it every weekend and took it for a run, and it was no supercar....
70proof said:
just thought of a crude but good analogy, imho.....
would you rather sleep with a virg** or the high class hook** thats been around the block, and some!
I prefer the analogy that buying a supercar and not driving it is like having a supermodel girlfriend and not sha99ing her much so she will be more attractive to her next boyfriend would you rather sleep with a virg** or the high class hook** thats been around the block, and some!
Davey S2 said:
I prefer the analogy that buying a supercar and not driving it is like having a supermodel girlfriend and not sha99ing her much so she will be more attractive to her next boyfriend
back to the op's question then, using your analogy, i'm the next boyfriend.... low miles please!P101 said:
I do about 10k a year in my gallardo, it used to worry me, but now i dont care. If i lose a few quid because its higher mileage i doubt i will have lost as much on some of the more run of the mill cars i have owned. Just drive, in 100 years from now are you gonna be bothered?
Good ManNow if we can only get everybody thinking like this then maybe we can all actually enjoy the b...y things for more than 25 hours a year.
P101 said:
I do about 10k a year in my gallardo, it used to worry me, but now i dont care. If i lose a few quid because its higher mileage i doubt i will have lost as much on some of the more run of the mill cars i have owned. Just drive, in 100 years from now are you gonna be bothered?
Yep, well said that man. 
It would be quite annoying to have garaged the car, driven it occasionally, only in fine weather, worrying about resale, nurturing it for the next owner, then to be hit by a bus.
Life. Get on with it.
Cars. Expensive. Fun. Their days are numbered (as are ours). Get out there and drive!
Life. Get on with it.
Cars. Expensive. Fun. Their days are numbered (as are ours). Get out there and drive!
Cars are meant to be driven; buy on condition not on mileage. Unless it has exceptionally high figures it shouldn't worry you.
As has been said, someone may keep a Fez in the garage only for the rare blast - and thats what it always is; a blast, a thrashing engine blowing up session. lol.
Someone with higher miles will be using it more, but doubt constant high revs will be in the picture (unless they have a death wish or constantly late for work). They could have gone on a couple of euro trips and clocked up 6k miles easy from just that alone - doubt it would have been raced all around Europe Gumball style though; just means its travelled more distance.
As has been said, someone may keep a Fez in the garage only for the rare blast - and thats what it always is; a blast, a thrashing engine blowing up session. lol.
Someone with higher miles will be using it more, but doubt constant high revs will be in the picture (unless they have a death wish or constantly late for work). They could have gone on a couple of euro trips and clocked up 6k miles easy from just that alone - doubt it would have been raced all around Europe Gumball style though; just means its travelled more distance.
As long as a car has been properly serviced and looked after then miles are not important at all in my view.
Cars improve as the engines bed in and more miles will likely highlight any inherent issues in the car...
if something's going to go bang then it would likely do so while being driven
so if it hasn't then it's probably a good car.
Of course, the two caveats are;
that the car needs someone who knows what they are doing to take care of them and any niggles dealt with immediately
and
the understanding that large mileage will have an adverse effect on the financial value of the car because of the current public perception.
I know my 360 is pretty worthless because it now has over 63k on it, but it's been serviced and maintained very well indeed, with improved components replacing worn out ones and it now drives and handles better than when i bought it 4 years ago.....and has been rated as the best 360 they've driven by anyone else who has got behind the wheel (not a sales pitch by the way she's a keeper!)
As for european trips......well i know a couple of things about those
not sure about Gumball but i do know that on our trips the cars come into their own and the drivers bond with them and understand them far better
Cars improve as the engines bed in and more miles will likely highlight any inherent issues in the car...
if something's going to go bang then it would likely do so while being driven
so if it hasn't then it's probably a good car.
Of course, the two caveats are;
that the car needs someone who knows what they are doing to take care of them and any niggles dealt with immediately
and
the understanding that large mileage will have an adverse effect on the financial value of the car because of the current public perception.
I know my 360 is pretty worthless because it now has over 63k on it, but it's been serviced and maintained very well indeed, with improved components replacing worn out ones and it now drives and handles better than when i bought it 4 years ago.....and has been rated as the best 360 they've driven by anyone else who has got behind the wheel (not a sales pitch by the way she's a keeper!)
As for european trips......well i know a couple of things about those
not sure about Gumball but i do know that on our trips the cars come into their own and the drivers bond with them and understand them far betterShmee said:
Explain this, because most Gumball fans are complaining about how the Gumball now is just a case of getting on the motorway and cruising - well that's what it was like for me this year.
Haven't followed Gumball for ages - only back in 2005, when some rock and roll nutters were getting chased by cops, etc. Guess things have changed based on your comments. 
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