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Anyone own one who can shed some light on what these are like to live with?
I will be coming from a Z4M Coupe that is purely a fine weather car that has never seen rain. So the 348 will be the same.
The 348 is immaculate with fsh so nothing to worry about there.
Are they ok on track? I go to the ring a few times a year .
Any info greatly appreciated.
I will be coming from a Z4M Coupe that is purely a fine weather car that has never seen rain. So the 348 will be the same.
The 348 is immaculate with fsh so nothing to worry about there.
Are they ok on track? I go to the ring a few times a year .
Any info greatly appreciated.
I've only had mine for about 10 days, so maybe not the best to comment. But :
I have found the handling... interesting on the road. The car is very lively over any road surface change, and seems to tramline quite severely. From discussions I've had on another forum, this is a fairly common complaint and 348s don't seem to be the best handling cars in the Ferrari line up.
I bought mine after 10 years with a 964 model 911, and I currently own a 996 turbo which I've had 2 years.
The Ferrari is a whole different event - it is taking me time to get used to how it handles, but I absolutely love it.
I have found the handling... interesting on the road. The car is very lively over any road surface change, and seems to tramline quite severely. From discussions I've had on another forum, this is a fairly common complaint and 348s don't seem to be the best handling cars in the Ferrari line up.
I bought mine after 10 years with a 964 model 911, and I currently own a 996 turbo which I've had 2 years.
The Ferrari is a whole different event - it is taking me time to get used to how it handles, but I absolutely love it.
Edited by davek_964 on Thursday 18th August 21:31
The 348 is a beautifully balanced car, very neutral and, will take some going to get to its limits, but when you get there it lets go very quickly. But like I said, you really have to be pushing it.
Fairly simple mechanically and, unless something really untoward happens, not expensive to run in the big scheme of things. They are one of the last of the raw Ferraris, but I personally just love that, along with the aggressive looks.
Your M will probably have the edge handling wise, but not much and, in a straight line, there won't be much in it. The 348s will do 170+ easily.
I have owned a Spider and drove that down to the south of Spain, brilliant and a pleasure to drive long distances in. I more recently owned a Berlinetta for a couple of years and took that down to Le Mans three times. Again, brilliant car. I now have a Testarossa but will at some time or another have another 348.
A lot of people dislike them because of either what they have heard or what they have read, or they don't like the 80s styling. Most owners (not all) love them.
Oh, and they attract a LOT of looks
Fairly simple mechanically and, unless something really untoward happens, not expensive to run in the big scheme of things. They are one of the last of the raw Ferraris, but I personally just love that, along with the aggressive looks.
Your M will probably have the edge handling wise, but not much and, in a straight line, there won't be much in it. The 348s will do 170+ easily.
I have owned a Spider and drove that down to the south of Spain, brilliant and a pleasure to drive long distances in. I more recently owned a Berlinetta for a couple of years and took that down to Le Mans three times. Again, brilliant car. I now have a Testarossa but will at some time or another have another 348.
A lot of people dislike them because of either what they have heard or what they have read, or they don't like the 80s styling. Most owners (not all) love them.
Oh, and they attract a LOT of looks
davek_964 said:
I've only had mine for about 10 days, so maybe not the best to comment. But :
I have found the handling... interesting on the road. The car is very lively over any road surface change, and seems to tramline quite severely. From discussions I've had on another forum, this is a fairly common complaint and 348s don't seem to be the best handling cars in the Ferrari line up.
This is totally incorrect. The 348 is much more raw and go kart like than later Ferrari models. It has no power steering or electronic aids.I have found the handling... interesting on the road. The car is very lively over any road surface change, and seems to tramline quite severely. From discussions I've had on another forum, this is a fairly common complaint and 348s don't seem to be the best handling cars in the Ferrari line up.
Edited by davek_964 on Thursday 18th August 21:31
It is more akin to, but not as raw as, an Elise S1.
You just need to get used to the car. 10 days is probably not enough
I've had my 348 Spider for years now. Rock steady stable at an indicated 175mph. I've used it on track. It has also been 100% reliable with zero faults in all the years I have owned it.
LotusJas said:
This is totally incorrect. The 348 is much more raw and go kart like than later Ferrari models. It has no power steering or electronic aids.
It is more akin to, but not as raw as, an Elise S1.
You just need to get used to the car. 10 days is probably not enough
I've had my 348 Spider for years now. Rock steady stable at an indicated 175mph. I've used it on track. It has also been 100% reliable with zero faults in all the years I have owned it.
Totally incorrect? Really?It is more akin to, but not as raw as, an Elise S1.
You just need to get used to the car. 10 days is probably not enough
I've had my 348 Spider for years now. Rock steady stable at an indicated 175mph. I've used it on track. It has also been 100% reliable with zero faults in all the years I have owned it.
I assure you, my car tramlines like no car I've had before - and it doesn't take very many searches on Club Scuderia forum to find that 348 handling is hardly a rare and unusual topic of discussion. If yours avoids any of these problems then congratulations - but I've seen enough comments - and had feedback from enough people - to know that my issue isn't all that unsual.
I should probably also clarify that in those 10 days I did 900 miles, which is close to many 348's annual mileage....
davek_964 said:
Totally incorrect? Really?
I assure you, my car tramlines like no car I've had before - and it doesn't take very many searches on Club Scuderia forum to find that 348 handling is hardly a rare and unusual topic of discussion. If yours avoids any of these problems then congratulations - but I've seen enough comments - and had feedback from enough people - to know that my issue isn't all that unsual.
I should probably also clarify that in those 10 days I did 900 miles, which is close to many 348's annual mileage....
As I recall, Jas did that 175mph whilst overtaking me and to be fair his 348 did look solidly planted.I assure you, my car tramlines like no car I've had before - and it doesn't take very many searches on Club Scuderia forum to find that 348 handling is hardly a rare and unusual topic of discussion. If yours avoids any of these problems then congratulations - but I've seen enough comments - and had feedback from enough people - to know that my issue isn't all that unsual.
I should probably also clarify that in those 10 days I did 900 miles, which is close to many 348's annual mileage....
If set up correctly, they are a very good handling car. At high speeds, it's the aerodynamics of the car that let it down.
PS. Where have you been Jas?????
Davek, the car will tramline, primarily depending on tyres so I do agree with that one aspect of your post. However, all very stiffly sprung cars can do this given tyres that are prone to it. For example, my old Elise S2 did not used to tramline - until I fitted Lotus Motorsport suspension and A048 tyres. Then it did. Not a problem really.
Sy, good to see you. I've been around - just not on the Ferrari forums much until recently. Yes, the 175mph was whilst overtaking you (on track
Davek, btw mine has *very* wide wheels and tyres, as well as spacers, so that is doubtless helping stability. The point is that a badly set up 348 can be bad, but a properly set up one is excellent. Look at Andy Hills' track based 348 for example, which has the best handling of any 348 I've been in.
Sy, good to see you. I've been around - just not on the Ferrari forums much until recently. Yes, the 175mph was whilst overtaking you (on track
Davek, btw mine has *very* wide wheels and tyres, as well as spacers, so that is doubtless helping stability. The point is that a badly set up 348 can be bad, but a properly set up one is excellent. Look at Andy Hills' track based 348 for example, which has the best handling of any 348 I've been in.
Dave
We discussed already the tyres on the phone - perhaps get some idea of what others here who have no tramlining are using?
Also, is there somewhere like Centre of Gravity for Porsches who can do a comprehensive setup on your car?
I think I would be disinclined to regard severe tramlining as "usual" fare until you get good intel on these 2 factors....
We discussed already the tyres on the phone - perhaps get some idea of what others here who have no tramlining are using?
Also, is there somewhere like Centre of Gravity for Porsches who can do a comprehensive setup on your car?
I think I would be disinclined to regard severe tramlining as "usual" fare until you get good intel on these 2 factors....
christer said:
Dave
We discussed already the tyres on the phone - perhaps get some idea of what others here who have no tramlining are using?
Also, is there somewhere like Centre of Gravity for Porsches who can do a comprehensive setup on your car?
I think I would be disinclined to regard severe tramlining as "usual" fare until you get good intel on these 2 factors....
Alignment has been checked and is all fine. I do plan to change the tyres but at the moment it's just not possible to get 4 of anything. So I think that will be something I sort over the winter / spring.We discussed already the tyres on the phone - perhaps get some idea of what others here who have no tramlining are using?
Also, is there somewhere like Centre of Gravity for Porsches who can do a comprehensive setup on your car?
I think I would be disinclined to regard severe tramlining as "usual" fare until you get good intel on these 2 factors....
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