QP early development - details
QP early development - details
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Burba

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1,870 posts

288 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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Interested in purchasing an early QP and wondered if there was any material on the web about the development of the car?

Burba

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288 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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Not a peep?!

What about buying info and what specific questions to ask around? I know about clutch and suspension squeak but anything else? Are there any general Maserati points to note?

sjn2004

4,051 posts

268 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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Burba

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288 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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Thanks for the info, will do a trawl on those sites.

Any tips people have to hand?

jamesc69

132 posts

242 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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A well respected Maserati Independant recons the early QPs suffer from a number of electrical gremlins that in his experience have been difficult and costly to resolve.

My 2005 gransport has the same 4200 engine and CC gearbox as the earlier QP's and has been generally reliable but has suffered from repeated check engine lights. Fingers crossed these have now been resolved.

Usual advice really, check out the forums listed above, and above it get an independant inspection before purchase. (which of course I did not !!!! )

Still fantastic cars though and pretty exclusive too!

james

sjn2004

4,051 posts

268 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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jamesc69 said:
A well respected Maserati Independant recons the early QPs suffer from a number of electrical gremlins that in his experience have been difficult and costly to resolve.
In laymans speak " error lights when there's no error. Tech spends hours trying to find a phantom fault/swapping bits." Costs a fortune!

Seems that bad earth connections are the most common cause. On my car the cable that connects the battery to the bodywork had a layer of paint on it. A quick clean up and no more problems. Another trigger seems to be when the battery runs low from little use and a power hungry tracker system. Keep your car well charged and your OK.

Alfa numeric

3,169 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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EVO did a buyers guide a couple of years ago. I'm at work so can't tell you the issue number but there's a shorter version on their website:

http://www.evo.co.uk/buying/buyingguide/238279/mas...

Burba

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Thursday 3rd November 2011
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Hi guys,

thanks for feedback - good tip on the battery cable issue, will keep an eye out for that.

I have noted the Evo mag article and wondered if there had been more in the mag article, as the online version is quite tight on data!

Done some background researching already on the service history and all seems ok so far.

Can any be specific about the key situation on the QP - is it similar to the 3200/4200? ie. You need a red key, black key, code card etc?

Burba

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Thursday 3rd November 2011
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Update - car may need a clutch shortly and one key.

What to do?

VML

570 posts

206 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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Clutch is an easy job foor any specalist, they should change the spiggot bearing whilst they are at it.

The keys are the same, no red key, just 2 blue flip keys.

Burba

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Friday 4th November 2011
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Anyone have any cost experience for clutch?
Seeing quotes between 1100-1600??

Key cost? - again seen numbers hovering around 250.

EC2

1,547 posts

284 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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More top end for the clutch I would have thought. Have you driven one yet?

Burba

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Friday 4th November 2011
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EC2 said:
More top end for the clutch I would have thought. Have you driven one yet?
Will be going to see said car and driving - am aware of e46 smg like drive (which i've owned and enjoyed) so am prepared.

I really wanted to go in informed so can try to discount car further!

sjn2004

4,051 posts

268 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Burba said:
Will be going to see said car and driving - am aware of e46 smg like drive (which i've owned and enjoyed) so am prepared.

I really wanted to go in informed so can try to discount car further!
There should be
two blue keys,
two fobs for the Navtrak ADR,
a Maserati Code credit card (electronic code/mechanical code),
a Blaupunkt code number card for the satnav (you need to enter it if battery is disconnected etc),

when do you go to see the car?

Burba

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Friday 4th November 2011
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sjn2004 said:
There should be
two blue keys,
two fobs for the Navtrak ADR,
a Maserati Code credit card (electronic code/mechanical code),
a Blaupunkt code number card for the satnav (you need to enter it if battery is disconnected etc),

when do you go to see the car?
Only one key, but codes are there.
Not heard of the navtrak adr? What should this be?

Hopefully sunday, all being well.

sjn2004

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268 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Burba said:
sjn2004 said:
There should be
two blue keys,
two fobs for the Navtrak ADR,
a Maserati Code credit card (electronic code/mechanical code),
a Blaupunkt code number card for the satnav (you need to enter it if battery is disconnected etc),

when do you go to see the car?
Only one key, but codes are there.
Not heard of the navtrak adr? What should this be?

Hopefully sunday, all being well.
All QP's came with a Navtrak with ADR tracking system. The ADR (advanced driver recognition) is a credit card sized fob which needs to be in the car otherwise the tracker unit sets off an alert at Cobra. The annual subs for the system is £295 and includes maintenance if req (if tracker unit becomes faulty).

If your car is without fobs its sounds like the previous owner didn't keep up with his subs. I'd imagine you could get it reactivated by contacting Cobra Navtrak who would also supply new fobs.

I'd suggest you get the car inspected by a specialist as any problems could be expensive to fix later.

Burba

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Monday 7th November 2011
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Update - after the viewing, put down a deposit on the car and pick up tomorrow!

It's that new car excitement again!

sjn2004

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268 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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Thats great. So what colour combo?

Burba

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Tuesday 8th November 2011
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Advertised as sebring blue with beige interior.

Really happy with it - though one section of console creaks i think. Will annoy with time, so will see if i can sort that.

Nice drive, familiar to e46 smg.
Good torquey engine i think, but room to rev too! Very comfortable on the m-way.

sjn2004

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268 months

Tuesday 8th November 2011
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Burba said:
Advertised as sebring blue with beige interior.

Really happy with it - though one section of console creaks i think. Will annoy with time, so will see if i can sort that.

Nice drive, familiar to e46 smg.
Good torquey engine i think, but room to rev too! Very comfortable on the m-way.
It might be the glove box thats not closed firmly.