F430 - Sensible?
Discussion
I've got a Jaguar CX-16 "ordered" for end next year/early 2012. Who knows if I'll actually want it once I know more details nearer the time.
Until then I really need to get into a fun car for weekend use and some Euro trips and a highlands tour next year. I loved my R8 because I could use it all the time and it never let me down and also because I bought sensibly and only lost £3K over 18 months.
I've never felt a Ferrari was a possibility but I'm in the fortunate position to be able to spend some serious money (£80-100K) on a car and just wondered if a used F430 might be the way to go. If I do change to the Jag within 12-18 months what sort of value would the car lose? Of course if I got the 'bug' then maybe the F430 would be a keeper.
Also, is there anything else you guys would consider at that price point? I'm just not sure which way to go but research is the order of the day right now.
Until then I really need to get into a fun car for weekend use and some Euro trips and a highlands tour next year. I loved my R8 because I could use it all the time and it never let me down and also because I bought sensibly and only lost £3K over 18 months.
I've never felt a Ferrari was a possibility but I'm in the fortunate position to be able to spend some serious money (£80-100K) on a car and just wondered if a used F430 might be the way to go. If I do change to the Jag within 12-18 months what sort of value would the car lose? Of course if I got the 'bug' then maybe the F430 would be a keeper.
Also, is there anything else you guys would consider at that price point? I'm just not sure which way to go but research is the order of the day right now.
For that budget, and given what you want to do with the car my list would be (in no particular order as they say on X Factor!):
Ferrari 430 coupe and spider
Gallardo coupe and spyder
Ferrari 599 (might be a bit tight budget wise but prices are dropping)
Maserati (dont know much about the range but others do and can advise. They sound great and are good GT cars).
I have owned Ferrari 360 Spider plus Gallardo Spyder and Coupe. All are great on the Europe trip although luggage space is a bit tight to say the least. The drop tops are great for hearing the engine plus a great driving experience. Bit difficult to answer your depreciation question as 599s will probably lose most but by the time you come to sell the 458s will be on the market secondhand so 430 prices will probably drop too. The replacement for the Gallardo will also by out (possibly!)which will hit Gallardo prices. I guess just drive them all and see which suits you best. Great position to be in. Expect to lose money however when you come to sell. Good luck and good hunting!
Ferrari 430 coupe and spider
Gallardo coupe and spyder
Ferrari 599 (might be a bit tight budget wise but prices are dropping)
Maserati (dont know much about the range but others do and can advise. They sound great and are good GT cars).
I have owned Ferrari 360 Spider plus Gallardo Spyder and Coupe. All are great on the Europe trip although luggage space is a bit tight to say the least. The drop tops are great for hearing the engine plus a great driving experience. Bit difficult to answer your depreciation question as 599s will probably lose most but by the time you come to sell the 458s will be on the market secondhand so 430 prices will probably drop too. The replacement for the Gallardo will also by out (possibly!)which will hit Gallardo prices. I guess just drive them all and see which suits you best. Great position to be in. Expect to lose money however when you come to sell. Good luck and good hunting!
iandc said:
Gallardo Spyder . All are great on the Europe trip although luggage space is a bit tight to say the least.
I would have to say that more than a couple of days luggage for 2 is never going to fit in a Gallardo Spyder. Had an order for one of these pre-introduction and cancelled when I was able to look at one close up. Beautiful car, great to drive but a very small luggage compartment in the front and no space of any use at all behind the seats.A couple of small squashy bags is all you'll get in.
Coupe is better because you can stick some stuff behind the seats but the 4wd hardware robs you of space no doubt.
430 boot is pretty roomy, bigger than an R8 I would say (4wd again) and quite a bit of space behind the seats, again, spyder not so good.
I found my Scuderia to be very practical as a touring car in the summer and a stock F430 would be better still.
430 is a perfectly acceptable everyday car especially as an F1, but be aware that anything more than token mileage (More than say 3-4k a year) will hurt the re-sale value a lot. Fact is that most Ferraris do very little mileage and as a result buyers prefer, and can choose from, lots of cars with very few miles.
Diamond blue said:
I would have to say that more than a couple of days luggage for 2 is never going to fit in a Gallardo Spyder.
Had an order for one of these pre-introduction and cancelled when I was able to look at one close up. Beautiful car, great to drive but a very small luggage compartment in the front and no space of any use at all behind the seats.A couple of small squashy bags is all you'll get in.
Coupe is better because you can stick some stuff behind the seats but the 4wd hardware robs you of space no doubt.
430 boot is pretty roomy, bigger than an R8 I would say (4wd again) and quite a bit of space behind the seats, again, spyder not so good.
I found my Scuderia to be very practical as a touring car in the summer and a stock F430 would be better still.
430 is a perfectly acceptable everyday car especially as an F1, but be aware that anything more than token mileage (More than say 3-4k a year) will hurt the re-sale value a lot. Fact is that most Ferraris do very little mileage and as a result buyers prefer, and can choose from, lots of cars with very few miles.
You would be amazed at how much you can pack into a Gallardo boot. I have done 2 weeks 3000 mile trips in both the Spyder and coupe. Fine in the summer as you only need shorts, T shirts etc. I agree the coupe is more practical with the rear shelf (again you can pack a lot in if you are smart). The 360 (and therefore 430), is more practical. I omitted Porches off the list but they would be practical alternative plus AM with a fairly large rear boot. Had an order for one of these pre-introduction and cancelled when I was able to look at one close up. Beautiful car, great to drive but a very small luggage compartment in the front and no space of any use at all behind the seats.A couple of small squashy bags is all you'll get in.
Coupe is better because you can stick some stuff behind the seats but the 4wd hardware robs you of space no doubt.
430 boot is pretty roomy, bigger than an R8 I would say (4wd again) and quite a bit of space behind the seats, again, spyder not so good.
I found my Scuderia to be very practical as a touring car in the summer and a stock F430 would be better still.
430 is a perfectly acceptable everyday car especially as an F1, but be aware that anything more than token mileage (More than say 3-4k a year) will hurt the re-sale value a lot. Fact is that most Ferraris do very little mileage and as a result buyers prefer, and can choose from, lots of cars with very few miles.
iandc said:
You would be amazed at how much you can pack into a Gallardo boot. I have done 2 weeks 3000 mile trips in both the Spyder and coupe. Fine in the summer as you only need shorts, T shirts etc. I agree the coupe is more practical with the rear shelf (again you can pack a lot in if you are smart). The 360 (and therefore 430), is more practical. I omitted Porches off the list but they would be practical alternative plus AM with a fairly large rear boot.
Got 2 weeks clothes for me and the OH (And thats a lot!), tennis rackets x 3, 3 sets of boules, 2 sets of golf clubs!!! and a tent and a b...y guitar!! in the Scud 
Guitar may not have sounded quite the same afterwards admittedly.But your quite right, in the summer you can get away with a lot less "stuff"
Good call re 911, lots of space behind seats, Astons and Maseratis all have plenty of space too
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Latest rumours suggest the Jag will be a turbo diesel hybrid so buy a car with a real engine (Petrol V12) whilst you still can
I'm not sue anyone knows, hence why I'm looking for something that MAY last beyond 2012. I've heard rumours saying the first will be V6 petrol, a convertible and a hybrid 
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