360 Modena vs Spider
360 Modena vs Spider
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M1KEY

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1,092 posts

315 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Hi,

I'm planning on buying a 360 early in the new year but am a bit torn between a Modena or a Spider. I prefer the look of the Modena but seeing as the car will mainly be used for weekends/holidays I wondering if a Spider might be the way to go? I'm also planning on doing a trip to the Monaco GP & Maranello next year and am thinking a Spider would be great for that.

Has anyone had both and got any advice? Does the Spider suffer from buffeting, scuttle shake etc? What are they like doing long distances roof up/down? Also is the roof mechanism prone to any problems?

Thanks for any comments.
Mike.

Justices

3,682 posts

195 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Spider all the way, especially with the usage you have planned. I used a spider for many long distance trips (roof down on motorways/fun roads and whenever it wasn't raining hard) and I wouldn't have changed it for a Modena. Modena still a great car and perhaps better for someone that is rarely going to put the roof down. Had both and the coupe felt a little more stealth/private (if there is such a thing in a Ferrari) and a tiny bit more rigid but honestly if didn't make much difference until really pushing it much further than you should on a public road. Very difficult to beat roof down motoring IMO.

More importantly as it's only going to be a weekend toy for you, the real question is.. what exhaust to fit?

iandc

3,893 posts

237 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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I have owned a Spider but not coupe. I had no problems with the roof although I believe you need to keep the hydroaulic fluid maintained to avoid roof sticking. The canvas roof sides on mine got creased but I think this happens on all of them and worth checking when you are buying that it is not too bad. Regarding looks etc it is a difficult one as I too like the looks of the coupe over the spider but the engine sounds so much better with the roof down and you will really enjoy trips to Europe in the summer in the spider. I did 13,500 miles in mine in 18 months with no problems and cheap to run with independent servicing. I am sure someone will be along who has owned both and can give you a greater insight but I hope this helps.

FerrariV8

357 posts

223 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Both cars share the same basic mechnical platform so they feel very similar. Unlike some older Ferrari's the aircon does work convincingly so you will be nice and cool whichever model you go for, Spider has more wind noise in the cabin with the roof up that a Modena but to be honest you should try them both and go for the one that feels right.

T.

voicey

2,494 posts

218 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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I started with a Modena and now have a Spider - I prefer the Spider for my Euro trips but much preferred the Modena for track work.

Harsh

4,551 posts

242 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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voicey said:
I started with a Modena and now have a Spider - I prefer the Spider for my Euro trips but much preferred the Modena for track work.
This...

only thing to add is that with a spider you get to hear the engine/exhaust note much better.

Audi 525i

1,250 posts

183 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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Harsh said:
This...

only thing to add is that with a spider you get to hear the engine/exhaust note much better.
I have never owned a convertible so am not ideally suited to comment, but is the sound quality really that much better in a convertible compared to the equivalent tin-top?

Even with both windows down in a tin-top, will the acoustics always be inferior to a convertible?

iandc

3,893 posts

237 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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Audi 525i said:
I have never owned a convertible so am not ideally suited to comment, but is the sound quality really that much better in a convertible compared to the equivalent tin-top?

Even with both windows down in a tin-top, will the acoustics always be inferior to a convertible?
yes. Very much so.

renmure

4,950 posts

255 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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Audi 525i said:
I have never owned a convertible so am not ideally suited to comment, but is the sound quality really that much better in a convertible compared to the equivalent tin-top?

Even with both windows down in a tin-top, will the acoustics always be inferior to a convertible?
It is on a different planet.
Even with the roof up on a Spider it is fairly civilised in the cabin.
With the roof down, the same revs sound intoxicatingly manic. Bliss.

sng45

497 posts

207 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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I've had both and would definately go for the Spider every time - fantastic sound with the roof down.

M1KEY

Original Poster:

1,092 posts

315 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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Thanks for the replies - getting the full benefit of the noise is a big part of thinking about a Spider! smile

Harsh

4,551 posts

242 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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Where in the Uk are you?

if you're near me, i'm happy to take you out for a spin in mine

mattdaniels

7,362 posts

313 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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I've not owned a Modena so can't compare the two, but as a Spider owner I can say yes there is a bit of skuttle shake and yes there is a tiny bit of wind noise but that is to be expected. If you make sure the windows are correctly adjusted it is not a problem and you can easily hold a conversation with your passenger on a motorway at 90 leptops without having to shout.

With the roof down there is no buffeting though this is the first convertible I've driven where you will get a face full of screenwash if you try and clean the windscreen when driving along which is a tad annoying when you're out for a blat and a fly decides to end its days in your line of view.

Rear vis is appalling in the spider (combination of plastic window which can get creased and the wind deflector).

The roof is great, as above just make sure the fluid is topped up. My car is 8 years old and I think it's had a roof solenoid or switch or something doing too as these are prone to fail.

For long journeys I can't see there is anything to choose between them as it's the same car inside. Make sure you have tried out the different seat types to see which you are most comfortable in - I wouldn't swap my carbon seats for all the money in the world they are so supportive and comfy but I know a lot of people swear by the standard seats.

Edited by mattdaniels on Monday 7th November 06:55

iandc

3,893 posts

237 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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mattdaniels said:
I've not owned a Modena so can't compare the two, but as a Spider owner I can say yes there is a bit of skuttle shake and yes there is a tiny bit of wind noise but that is to be expected. If you make sure the windows are correctly adjusted it is not a problem and you can easily hold a conversation with your passenger on a motorway at 90 leptops without having to shout.

With the roof down there is no buffeting though this is the first convertible I've driven where you will get a face full of screenwash if you try and clean the windscreen when driving along which is a tad annoying when you're out for a blat and a fly decides to end its days in your line of view.

Rear vis is appalling in the spider (combination of plastic window which can get creased and the wind deflector).

The roof is great, as above just make sure the fluid is topped up. My car is 8 years old and I think it's had a roof solenoid or switch or something doing too as these are prone to fail.

For long journeys I can't see there is anything to choose between them as it's the same car inside. Make sure you have tried out the different seat types to see which you are most comfortable in - I wouldn't swap my carbon seats for all the money in the world they are so supportive and comfy but I know a lot of people swear by the standard seats.

Edited by mattdaniels on Monday 7th November 06:55
"you can easily hold a conversation with your passenger on a motorway at 90 leptops without having to shout." You need a proper exhaust!!!biggrin


M1KEY

Original Poster:

1,092 posts

315 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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Harsh said:
Where in the Uk are you?

if you're near me, i'm happy to take you out for a spin in mine
I'm up near Glasgow so a bit far but thanks for the offer anyway. thumbup

BTW which exhaust do you have?

M1KEY

Original Poster:

1,092 posts

315 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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mattdaniels said:
For long journeys I can't see there is anything to choose between them as it's the same car inside. Make sure you have tried out the different seat types to see which you are most comfortable in - I wouldn't swap my carbon seats for all the money in the world they are so supportive and comfy but I know a lot of people swear by the standard seats.
Edited by mattdaniels on Monday 7th November 06:55
Yeah ideally I'm after one with the carbon seats too as I'm pretty tall and from a quick sit in a couple they seem to offer a bit room.

bad company

21,920 posts

297 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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voicey said:
I prefer the Spider for my Euro trips but much preferred the Modena for track work.
Exactly. It really does depend what you want the car for. In this case it sounds like touring so the Spider would be best imo.

Adz man

344 posts

190 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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Had a 360 Modena before my 430 Spider.

Would never go back to a Coupe again. Having the roof down is a wonderful experience.

Security is an issue that worries me but my ins company cover the roof for any vandalism upto any amount...and I've heard of some extreme amounts for new roofs!

p4dhu

192 posts

252 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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Harsh said:
This...

only thing to add is that with a spider you get to hear the engine/exhaust note much better.
Test pipes will do the trick ;-)

mattdaniels

7,362 posts

313 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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iandc said:
"you can easily hold a conversation with your passenger on a motorway at 90 leptops without having to shout." You need a proper exhaust!!!biggrin
Au Contraire. It has the Larini fitted which is far too loud and anti social. It's the only thing about the car I don't like.