Vanquish to a 612 ... Thoughts please?
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Hi guys, after some advice on 612's
Changed my 360 for a Vanquish last Nov after a year, so the 3 of us can all use it, but now my mrs and 5 yr old daughter prefer going in the RRS anyway!!
Mines an earlier 53' Vanquish (I prefer to wait until they've nearly bottomed out to avoid huge depreciation, then buy) and whilst it is imo a great looking and awesome sounding car, it does feel a little dated + Im sick of seeing gearbox fault lights when I first start the car (a common niggle) ... so the itch is intensifying.
Thinking about a 612 ... There's a few hovering around £65-75k
What are they like to live with???
Failing that, also considering a Murcielago (love them), several on here and atrader around £90-100k but most seem to be hanging around a while .... There's a 42k miles car that's been on here ages and up with several different sellers.
Thanks, Paul
Changed my 360 for a Vanquish last Nov after a year, so the 3 of us can all use it, but now my mrs and 5 yr old daughter prefer going in the RRS anyway!!
Mines an earlier 53' Vanquish (I prefer to wait until they've nearly bottomed out to avoid huge depreciation, then buy) and whilst it is imo a great looking and awesome sounding car, it does feel a little dated + Im sick of seeing gearbox fault lights when I first start the car (a common niggle) ... so the itch is intensifying.
Thinking about a 612 ... There's a few hovering around £65-75k
What are they like to live with???
Failing that, also considering a Murcielago (love them), several on here and atrader around £90-100k but most seem to be hanging around a while .... There's a 42k miles car that's been on here ages and up with several different sellers.
Thanks, Paul
I traded up from 456 to a 612 so cant compare to a vanquish. Wife and two 11yr old daughters love it. Good boot can get couple of sets of golf clubs plus weekend bags. Back is very spacious and 6ft adults can sit in comfort for long journey, no probs. With f1 gearbox I can drive it like I stole it when on my own and auto button feature means wife can pootle round town in it.
Servicing has been as you would expect though I use guys at The Ferrari Centre in Maidstone who are fantastic rather than load up on main dealer costs.
Ran car to Nurburgring and back, behaved like a lady getting there and back and ran like a scalded cat at the track. I am a big fan of mine and would take something special to find a better car
Cars in the £70k range could be great value but would suggest to buy from strong independent ferrari dealer who know what they are doing and can support the servicing. Dont be put off by multiple owners as they tend to trade often it is critically important hwoever to have an immaculate service history, cams on time etc.....
good luck
Servicing has been as you would expect though I use guys at The Ferrari Centre in Maidstone who are fantastic rather than load up on main dealer costs.
Ran car to Nurburgring and back, behaved like a lady getting there and back and ran like a scalded cat at the track. I am a big fan of mine and would take something special to find a better car
Cars in the £70k range could be great value but would suggest to buy from strong independent ferrari dealer who know what they are doing and can support the servicing. Dont be put off by multiple owners as they tend to trade often it is critically important hwoever to have an immaculate service history, cams on time etc.....
good luck
612's are more reliable, feel stronger and are much more practical. However there is a big difference between the cars with the HGTE handling pack which in my view is a necessity.
The Vanquish is, in my opinion, far prettier and will turn more heads.
Service costs won't be dissimilar assuming that you're going with annual intervals on the Vanq. The Cambelt service (every 3-4 years) on the 612 will be 3kish at a main dealer.
They're both great cars.
The Vanquish is, in my opinion, far prettier and will turn more heads.
Service costs won't be dissimilar assuming that you're going with annual intervals on the Vanq. The Cambelt service (every 3-4 years) on the 612 will be 3kish at a main dealer.
They're both great cars.
I saw a 612 at the weekend, and it is huge. Even made the Diablo look titchy.
If you want a Murci there looks to be a nice one for sale at Carlo's for £82k. http://www.topgear-cars.co.uk/showroom.php
If you want a Murci there looks to be a nice one for sale at Carlo's for £82k. http://www.topgear-cars.co.uk/showroom.php
Thanks for comments everyone.
The bit extra space of a 612 would probably suit me a bit better and from the comments if they are a bit more robust than the Vanq it's even better.
The Vanquish has been pretty good and has never failed (touch wood), but I made sure I bought one that had already had a new gearbox and the upgraded gearbox sensors, crank pin etc done (a £15-16k bill avoided) and despite that and being a good solid example, it's still had £6-7k worth of work done since buying it in October last year ... they're awesome cars , just a tad expensive on the parts front.
It's the niggly things that detract from the ownership experience .... like every time I turn her on, the GEARBOX FAULT warning light comes on, but Rick up at DMS has assured me it's perfectly normal and just a case of the sensor reading it before the hydraulic pressure in the system has built up .... goes off after 2-3 seconds but still expect a bit better from such a marque/car.
But once up and running will need something special, that feels a bit newer to replace without disappointing.
Re the golf clubs ... would a tour bag and Stewart Golf trolley fit?? ha ha
The bit extra space of a 612 would probably suit me a bit better and from the comments if they are a bit more robust than the Vanq it's even better.
The Vanquish has been pretty good and has never failed (touch wood), but I made sure I bought one that had already had a new gearbox and the upgraded gearbox sensors, crank pin etc done (a £15-16k bill avoided) and despite that and being a good solid example, it's still had £6-7k worth of work done since buying it in October last year ... they're awesome cars , just a tad expensive on the parts front.
It's the niggly things that detract from the ownership experience .... like every time I turn her on, the GEARBOX FAULT warning light comes on, but Rick up at DMS has assured me it's perfectly normal and just a case of the sensor reading it before the hydraulic pressure in the system has built up .... goes off after 2-3 seconds but still expect a bit better from such a marque/car.
But once up and running will need something special, that feels a bit newer to replace without disappointing.
Re the golf clubs ... would a tour bag and Stewart Golf trolley fit?? ha ha
AM had eradicated the gearbox light issue on the late S cars. If you had an early car you might want to try the S. The later cars handle and brake better whilst feeling much more robust. I've owned a QP too and they Are awesomely pretty cars. Power is vey down on a 612 however and they are very heavy cars, whereas the 612 and the Vanq hide their bulk pretty well. The QP I owned was a manual and I much preferred it to the later auto box, that said if u fancy driving a manual one in it's 'auto' setup they're terrible - and they also depreciate horrifically.
Thanks chaps .... Now Im back to square one completely.
I washed the Aston yesterday and stood back and just looked at it .... It's a gorgeous car and its a simple strategy ... When its dirty it needs changing, when clean its a keeper .. Then it gets dirty again.
I've spent almost all day taking the long way everywhere and took 3hr to get the milk & bread ... Even in Litchfield Black (very dark grey) it turns heads everywhere and the sound is utterly addictive even after a year!
Didnt realise a Vanquish S was that much better, but now after today may throw one in the mix too ... but in the next breat think as do that I may as well keep mine and spend c. £45k on a pure toy such as an Atom / 360 spider / GTR / Lotus Exige / / Ultima / Tuscan / Sagaris
By the time I make up my mind, I could have had all of them! Ha ha
... and I tested a QP SportGT a few years back and almost bought one, but I now have a Supercharged Range Rover Sport that does everything from daily hack to weekends away, so it's really a "toy/treat" for me.
Someone on Aston forum suggested a super car club and try a few.
Hope everyone's had an equally good weekend!
I washed the Aston yesterday and stood back and just looked at it .... It's a gorgeous car and its a simple strategy ... When its dirty it needs changing, when clean its a keeper .. Then it gets dirty again.
I've spent almost all day taking the long way everywhere and took 3hr to get the milk & bread ... Even in Litchfield Black (very dark grey) it turns heads everywhere and the sound is utterly addictive even after a year!
Didnt realise a Vanquish S was that much better, but now after today may throw one in the mix too ... but in the next breat think as do that I may as well keep mine and spend c. £45k on a pure toy such as an Atom / 360 spider / GTR / Lotus Exige / / Ultima / Tuscan / Sagaris
By the time I make up my mind, I could have had all of them! Ha ha
... and I tested a QP SportGT a few years back and almost bought one, but I now have a Supercharged Range Rover Sport that does everything from daily hack to weekends away, so it's really a "toy/treat" for me.
Someone on Aston forum suggested a super car club and try a few.
Hope everyone's had an equally good weekend!
S1M VP said:
The bit extra space of a 612 would probably suit me a bit better and from the comments if they are a bit more robust than the Vanq it's even better.
I've commuted my 612 since February and done a number of 3-4 hour runs with 4 adults in it, its as practical as the old Maserati 3200/4200 series and much faster than the newer Granturismo. My son still prefers the Quattroporte which I had for 4 years and was the best workhorse I have ever owned.I've known people with the Aston who have not been so lucky when it comes to reliability, but I think the secret is the same as most higher end cars. Generally ignore what the dealers tell you needs to be fixed unless you are 100% sure it needs to be done. Drive the car every day.
Latly there is nothing that compares to a Ferrari V12, it is the most famous engine in roadcar history and is a direct descendant of the powerplant which sat in one of Ferrari's most beautiful car, the 250 SWB.
If you can find a second hand one with the HGTS its well worth getting, you will notice the exhaust note is vastly better. The exhaust terminal is slightly diffrent so its easy to spot which ones has the sportier note even at standstill.
I have a 2009 612, and like you a RRS, not the supercharged, but it is the 2012 model with the 3.0V6 engine, so its pretty good. Point being even though the RR is excellent at cruising/day out/long journeys, I still could never part with the 612, it is a stunning piece of kit.It can compete with the RR on the 500 mile scottish trip, an be a snarling nasty monster when I went that side to come out too, a real proper full on ferrari. As mentioned above the V12 in it is stunning, mine being the OTO has the exhaust and all the bits, so sound wise its wicked and comfort wise spot on. I seem to be one of the few that love the looks of the 612 also!
chris5150 said:
I seem to be one of the few that love the looks of the 612 also!
Indeed...me two...which means there are now two of us in the UK!By the way, drove down to Lewes with the wife and kids...pram, wellies for all, presents, million changes of clothes for the little 8mth old girl, and all fitted in the boot....and we beat the Sat Nav time by 25min...it's just so practical! Ahahaaaa....
chris5150 said:
Nav? dont bother...even on my 2009 with the bose full nav I still use my iphone with tomtom on...best thing to use by a mile
Same here...holder sits above the fuse box which makes fitting very easy. Use an l-plate fitted horizontally so the iPhone sits right in front of the commemorative plate. Thereby being out of sight (still works perfectly) and I don't have to stick it to the windscreen mini-cab stylee.Gassing Station | Supercar General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff