Gallardo Help vs 360 alittle maybe lol
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Hi Guys,
Some great info on here. Just a few questions really regards the Gallardo. Its on my list for next Summer, (April/May) and i am looking at early models with around 25K max miles, and manuals. What i am trying to find out is how long would a fresh clutch in an 04 Manual last, more so open A/B Road abuse? From what ive read is replacement clutch material is now upgraded in the all pre 06 Gallardo's also.
Reason i ask is i had a 360 Spider Manual summer just gone and did around 6000 miles in it, id say 5000 was hard driving, and it never had a problem with the clutch at all, that car and everything Ive read about them, seems to show they are really robust and take the abuse.
Which ever car i get, it will no be cruising round town but out being driven as it should, however i dont want to be replacing clutches every 3000 miles. I dont ride the clutch, or do hard lunches, just hard shifting at the top of the rev range, as per normal really.
Can anyone compare the driving experience from the 360 to the Gallardo? How different do they feel, which one is more enjoyable, fulfilling to drive? I really liked the 360, felt it was really well balanced, even when it stepped out, only thinking i didnt like was the brakes, no feel just like an F3000 car.
Also does anyone know the transmission loss on the Gallardo?
Any help is much appreciated, im really looking forward to next summer, just want the car that will give me ultimate driving pleasure, but after trying the 360 it would be nice to try the Gallardo.
Cheers
Jay
Some great info on here. Just a few questions really regards the Gallardo. Its on my list for next Summer, (April/May) and i am looking at early models with around 25K max miles, and manuals. What i am trying to find out is how long would a fresh clutch in an 04 Manual last, more so open A/B Road abuse? From what ive read is replacement clutch material is now upgraded in the all pre 06 Gallardo's also.
Reason i ask is i had a 360 Spider Manual summer just gone and did around 6000 miles in it, id say 5000 was hard driving, and it never had a problem with the clutch at all, that car and everything Ive read about them, seems to show they are really robust and take the abuse.
Which ever car i get, it will no be cruising round town but out being driven as it should, however i dont want to be replacing clutches every 3000 miles. I dont ride the clutch, or do hard lunches, just hard shifting at the top of the rev range, as per normal really.
Can anyone compare the driving experience from the 360 to the Gallardo? How different do they feel, which one is more enjoyable, fulfilling to drive? I really liked the 360, felt it was really well balanced, even when it stepped out, only thinking i didnt like was the brakes, no feel just like an F3000 car.
Also does anyone know the transmission loss on the Gallardo?
Any help is much appreciated, im really looking forward to next summer, just want the car that will give me ultimate driving pleasure, but after trying the 360 it would be nice to try the Gallardo.
Cheers
Jay
i think the latest clutches can last 20K miles +....... key is not high speed changes, but ragging it from the line and low speed changes..... most improtant thing with a manual is from a standstill and at low low speeds, use clutch only and do not give it any throttle....
egear is actually harder wearing on the clutch low down, and mine is 30% worn at 9k miles.....
egear is actually harder wearing on the clutch low down, and mine is 30% worn at 9k miles.....
Hi, thanks for the info. Yeah i found that with the Ferrari you can just use the clutch rather than ramping up the throttle and slipping it, i can imagine people do that alot. 20K sounds very good in my opinion, even if it lasted 10K miles of spirited driving, id be happy to replace. Is it just the clutch that needs changing or do flywheels and bearing go too?
How responsive is the e-gear? I think id probably opt for a manual myself.
How do you find the handling when pressing on? Does it understeer?
Many Thanks
Jay
How responsive is the e-gear? I think id probably opt for a manual myself.
How do you find the handling when pressing on? Does it understeer?
Many Thanks
Jay
did a lot of research before i bought and only seems to be the clutch plates that get talked about, though for a 3k clutch wander if the flywheel is done also.... certainly no mention of other parts of the transmission being weak.... the wrong tyres can affect the diff, apparantly....
as for understeer, haven;t really driven it hard enough yet.... bought it too close to winter and keen to ease myself in..... others will no doubt comment esp re the comparison to the 360....
i have always been a manual fan, though i am enjoying e gear....
as for understeer, haven;t really driven it hard enough yet.... bought it too close to winter and keen to ease myself in..... others will no doubt comment esp re the comparison to the 360....
i have always been a manual fan, though i am enjoying e gear....
Cheers for the comments guy. The more and more i look at them the more i want one. lol.
Just doing as much research as i can as i will want to buy one in April. Do you think the price will go up slightly or a tad down? They seem to have level'd off and are holding their price.
Only change i would do is an exhaust, the 360 had a Tubi on it, i didnt like the drone but it was more than worth it for the screaming at the top end of revs.
These guys seem to have quite a few at the low price end of the market.
http://vvsuk.co.uk/sports-cars/lamborghini/used-la...
Cheers
Jay
Just doing as much research as i can as i will want to buy one in April. Do you think the price will go up slightly or a tad down? They seem to have level'd off and are holding their price.
Only change i would do is an exhaust, the 360 had a Tubi on it, i didnt like the drone but it was more than worth it for the screaming at the top end of revs.
These guys seem to have quite a few at the low price end of the market.
http://vvsuk.co.uk/sports-cars/lamborghini/used-la...
Cheers
Jay
buy one, you won;t regret it..... i've got evo and car reviews for the gallardo at release and both mags praise it ++ and rate it above the respective porkers and fezzers at the time.... 430 and turbo i think....
are prices up or down.... now they will be at their lowest, will go up in spring i assume....
to benchmark, i saw in may an 04 manual car in black with 9k for 69K....
prices haven;t collapsed since then....
as to current stock.... have you looked at the black one at keighly motor sports... 63k i think with a 560 front bumper.... thats one well looked after car, well was whilst V10 Bat had it and i don;t think its done much mileage since then....
only negative about the e gear is it does behave like a auto when slowing down and will come down the box, so you have select neutral and cruise else it really does get itself into a mess going from 2nd to first usually just when you want to throttle it....
are prices up or down.... now they will be at their lowest, will go up in spring i assume....
to benchmark, i saw in may an 04 manual car in black with 9k for 69K....
prices haven;t collapsed since then....
as to current stock.... have you looked at the black one at keighly motor sports... 63k i think with a 560 front bumper.... thats one well looked after car, well was whilst V10 Bat had it and i don;t think its done much mileage since then....
only negative about the e gear is it does behave like a auto when slowing down and will come down the box, so you have select neutral and cruise else it really does get itself into a mess going from 2nd to first usually just when you want to throttle it....
70proof said:
did a lot of research before i bought and only seems to be the clutch plates that get talked about, though for a 3k clutch wander if the flywheel is done also.... certainly no mention of other parts of the transmission being weak.... the wrong tyres can affect the diff, apparantly....
as for understeer, haven;t really driven it hard enough yet.... bought it too close to winter and keen to ease myself in..... others will no doubt comment esp re the comparison to the 360....
i have always been a manual fan, though i am enjoying e gear....
AFAIK Clutch comes as a complete assembly,flywheel,friction discs,pressure plate,all balanced and ready to bolt on.as for understeer, haven;t really driven it hard enough yet.... bought it too close to winter and keen to ease myself in..... others will no doubt comment esp re the comparison to the 360....
i have always been a manual fan, though i am enjoying e gear....
Gallardo`s are great,if you get a chance try and drive both egear/manual.Like 70 proof i have always loved manuals,but now i`m totally hooked on egear.It`s a personal thing so you may want too check em both out.
Happy hunting
70 - Cheers for that mate. Im after a yellow / orange / green really. This one is giving me a boner everytime i look at it
V10 - Cheers dude, flywheel's too, surely they are just not strong enough if the whole assembly needs chaning every 15 - 20K. Clutch and friction plates i can understand, but Flyhweels :S. I will deffo try and drive them nearer the time. I prefered the 360 Manual over the Ferrari F1 box.
Tony - Cheers for that, the brakes were new and i only kept the car over the summer so never changed them, it just felt megga lacking in any feel, you would just stand on them and suddenly they would bite. Really unpredicatable.
Can anyone do a driving comparison of the 360 and Gallardo?
Also anyone on the transmission loss on the Gallardo, as its 4WD im guessing it would lose around 35% approx, the 360 losses 20% from what i can find out, so around the 320whp, the Gallardo i expect around 370whp, but yet its around 200kg heavier than the 360 so im guess its slightly quicker. Maybe i am looking into it too much. lol.
What power can be had after exhaust, de-cats, and re-map out of the Gallardo?
Cheers
Jay
This one is giving me a boner everytime i look at itV10 - Cheers dude, flywheel's too, surely they are just not strong enough if the whole assembly needs chaning every 15 - 20K. Clutch and friction plates i can understand, but Flyhweels :S. I will deffo try and drive them nearer the time. I prefered the 360 Manual over the Ferrari F1 box.
Tony - Cheers for that, the brakes were new and i only kept the car over the summer so never changed them, it just felt megga lacking in any feel, you would just stand on them and suddenly they would bite. Really unpredicatable.
Can anyone do a driving comparison of the 360 and Gallardo?
Also anyone on the transmission loss on the Gallardo, as its 4WD im guessing it would lose around 35% approx, the 360 losses 20% from what i can find out, so around the 320whp, the Gallardo i expect around 370whp, but yet its around 200kg heavier than the 360 so im guess its slightly quicker. Maybe i am looking into it too much. lol.
What power can be had after exhaust, de-cats, and re-map out of the Gallardo?
Cheers
Jay
JayK12 said:
70 - Cheers for that mate. Im after a yellow / orange / green really. This one is giving me a boner everytime i look at it
can;t see the pic at work due to a firewall but i think you are talking about the red car wrapped orange with scissor doors..... it is an aranchio wrap.... This one is giving me a boner everytime i look at itfrom what i heard, no door conversion is very good at all, and will need two new doors to convert back.... if it's show on the high street then a conversion is fine, else driving around the seals will be poor so wind noise will be unbearable....
agree with you a citrus colour car is the way to go.... though for 2004 cars i think the only citrus colour was yellow..... aranchio may be a 2005 on colour, and lime green 2006/7...
Hi Jay not wishing to upset any 360 owners out there but I had a little play with a tdf blue 360 on the A316-M3 and was surprised by how much faster my Gallardo was! My Gallardo was standard at the time but there really is little comparison in straight line speed whether side by side or using slip streams, get the Lamborghini and enjoy you won't regret it for a second.
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