Luca di Montezemolo for President, things are looking up!!!
Luca di Montezemolo for President, things are looking up!!!
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Streetrod

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237 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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"Ferrari Chairman Luca di Montezemolo running for Italian presidency

The Italian economy and political scene has been in turmoil since the resignation of former president Silvio Berlusconni. In a desire to rebuild Italy's economy and reputation, Ferrari Chairman Luca di Montezemolo has reportedly announced his intentions to run for the Italian presidency in 2013.

In a letter published to Italia Futura, di Montezemolo called 2011 one of the "most difficult years since the war" and blamed a "paralysis of decision-making" for holding the country "hostage."

As part of his campaign, di Montezemolo aims to create jobs, reform welfare and refocus the tax burden on wealthy individuals. He also intends to cut government waste and eliminate corruption.

It remains unclear if di Montezemolo will resign from his position at Ferrari."


So if he gets in what can we expect from the Italian supercar makers. Will all public sector workers be expected to wear a Ferrari branded baseball cap to work and will driving a Lamborghini in public become a capital offence? biggrin


Edited by Streetrod on Thursday 22 December 12:04

AJSG

327 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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Streetrod said:
As part of his campaign, di Montezemolo aims to create jobs, reform welfare and refocus the tax burden on wealthy individuals. He also intends to cut government waste and eliminate corruption.
Italy needs to be ruled by an external power, not by just another industrialist with his fat little fingers in a miriad of pies...

Anyway, you cannot do any of the things he claims at the same time as each other, you end up dividing by zero.

I loved Berlusconi, less corrupt than the French but a lot more fun than the Germans.

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

214 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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Streetrod said:
As part of his campaign, di Montezemolo aims to ... refocus the tax burden on wealthy individuals.

Edited by Streetrod on Thursday 22 December 12:04
Surely there will be a conflict of interest here, even if he does hang up the Ferrari hat? Wealthy individuals have got him to where he is now, if he taxes/penalises/begs them to put their hand in their pockets, the negative feeling this will create will surely knock onto Ferrari simply by association.

I would have thought anyway!

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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AJSG said:
I loved Berlusconi, less corrupt than the French
rofl

he stopped being corrupt when he entered office as he just changed laws to suit himself and his cronies

the bloke is an arse

AJSG

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218 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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sleep envy said:
he stopped being corrupt when he entered office as he just changed laws to suit himself and his cronies
Absloutely, as did Trichet when he was at the BoF in the 90s and countersigned the loans that collapsed Lyonaise up to Chirac nowadays. Or closer to home how about Blair? He is the only domiciled non domicile, saves him an esitmated 10mm in tax a year.


sleep envy said:
the bloke is an arse
If by arse you mean, the longest standing PM in Italy's history, and a person that every man in Italy wanted to be...

Italy doesn't need a PM to run, industry finds its own ways, politics in Italy is for show and for the distribution of "few" taxes from the stupid to the lazy.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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AJSG said:
If by arse you mean, the longest standing PM in Italy's history, and a person that every man in Italy wanted to be...

Italy doesn't need a PM to run, industry finds its own ways, politics in Italy is for show and for the distribution of "few" taxes from the stupid to the lazy.
Hmmm. Do you know many Italians?

iandc

3,893 posts

237 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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On a lighter note I guess if he is successful the Italian police will have to give the Lambos back and replace with Ferraris! I wonder what his presedential car would be?

ferdi p

1,537 posts

203 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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I am an Italian & Berlusconi is a Joke, a thief & became PM to stop himself & his shady connections going to prison... He used all his money, influence & Media power to make sure of it, no 'normal' contender stood a chance..
It took more scandal than the NOTW/Mirror ever broke to eventually get him out of office!!
He should go stand next to a roaring fire & slowly melt away smile

AJSG

327 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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sleep envy said:
Hmmm. Do you know many Italians?
Ok, I'll play...born in Rome, lived there till I was 17, dad general secretary of the International Christian Democrat party, mother at the UN...prior to that dad worked with De Gasperi and mum with Adenauer...

...what is your point?

AJSG

327 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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ferdi p said:
I am an Italian & Berlusconi is a Joke, a thief
Many Italians aspire to be thieves, especially in the south. There is honour in steling 1,000 lire but no honour in earning 10,000...remeber who said that?

The people get the governments they deserve....and Berlusconi is a true reflection of his people...

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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AJSG said:
Ok, I'll play...born in Rome, lived there till I was 17, dad general secretary of the International Christian Democrat party, mother at the UN...prior to that dad worked with De Gasperi and mum with Adenauer...

...what is your point?
thanks but there's really no need to be so touchy - maybe fora aren't for you

coming from an italian background myself I'd disgaree with your second point smile

ferdi p

1,537 posts

203 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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AJSG said:
sleep envy said:
Hmmm. Do you know many Italians?
Ok, I'll play...born in Rome, lived there till I was 17, dad general secretary of the International Christian Democrat party, mother at the UN...prior to that dad worked with De Gasperi and mum with Adenauer...

...what is your point?
His point is, dont speak for all Italians when you say we all want to be Berlusconi! He should sod off & form a coalition with Gary Glitter!

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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ferdi p said:
His point is, dont speak for all Italians when you say we all want to be Berlusconi! He should sod off & form a coalition with Gary Glitter!
clap

AJSG

327 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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ferdi p said:
His point is, dont speak for all Italians when you say we all want to be Berlusconi!
Considering that he won all the elections from the mid 1990s history tells me that I am right and you are categorically wrong.

ferdi p said:
He should sod off & form a coalition with Gary Glitter!
I'm sure he has already tried that...but prefers to leave that kind of thing to the head of Fiat Marketing.

ferdi p

1,537 posts

203 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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AJSG said:
ferdi p said:
I am an Italian & Berlusconi is a Joke, a thief
Many Italians aspire to be thieves, especially in the south. There is honour in steling 1,000 lire but no honour in earning 10,000...remeber who said that?

The people get the governments they deserve....and Berlusconi is a true reflection of his people...
A typical warped view, I am southern & all my family (Casoria, Napoli) are hard working people who have never 'aspired' to be thieves!!
I do agree that the country has so much corruption that outsiders assume that all Italians are corrupt.
Berlusconi used his papers/tv/radio to promise change when actually he was out for his own agenda.
Italy has many problems dating back to historic events but to believe that most 'normal' Italians wanted Berlusconi is ridiculous. There are 2 types of Italians, the ones that believe him & the ones that dont, in truth it does not matter which one you are, as he did'nt deliver his 'promises' anyway..
Ciao..


sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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AJSG said:
ferdi p said:
His point is, dont speak for all Italians when you say we all want to be Berlusconi!
Considering that he won all the elections from the mid 1990s history tells me that I am right and you are categorically wrong.
rofl

utterly ridiculous

ferdi p

1,537 posts

203 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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AJSG said:
ferdi p said:
His point is, dont speak for all Italians when you say we all want to be Berlusconi!
Considering that he won all the elections from the mid 1990s history tells me that I am right and you are categorically wrong.

ferdi p said:
He should sod off & form a coalition with Gary Glitter!
I'm sure he has already tried that...but prefers to leave that kind of thing to the head of Fiat Marketing.
Are you so naive to think that winning elections means thats what the Italians wanted?
He owns most of the popular media, christ if he wanted to make the nation eat cornflakes every day, he probably could !!

AJSG

327 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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ferdi p said:
A typical warped view, I am southern & all my family (Casoria, Napoli) are hard working people who have never 'aspired' to be thieves!!
I do agree that the country has so much corruption that outsiders assume that all Italians are corrupt.
That may very well be, the facts are totally against you, especially in Campania which according to most Italians it should be blown up and floated out to sea.

I still go there and still have property near Gaeta, the worst thing about what has been happening there is that it used to be one of the most fertile lands this side of Ciociaria. Now its just a gigantic chemical dump.

You may be seeing this with rose tinted glasses. The reality is very diffrent indeed.


ferdi p said:
but to believe that most 'normal' Italians wanted Berlusconi is ridiculous.
Who won all the elections from 1994 to 2011? Who voted for him?

AJSG

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Thursday 22nd December 2011
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sleep envy said:
utterly ridiculous
So you are denying that he ever won any elections?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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AJSG said:
sleep envy said:
utterly ridiculous
So you are denying that he ever won any elections?
no, what I am denying is your statement that just because he won the elections every single italian male wanted to be him