Diablo 6.0
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jdwcd

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2,519 posts

233 months

Sunday 25th December 2011
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http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3505880.htm

Whos car was this

Is it johnny finances old car

Rocco is this the one you looked at

Rocco1

3,091 posts

214 months

Sunday 25th December 2011
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jdwcd said:
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3505880.htm

Whos car was this

Is it johnny finances old car

Rocco is this the one you looked at
Yes this is the car i looked at,as to the owner not sure.The story TH told me it belongs or belonged to a man(european name) who ownes a big catering company who also supplies airlines with all there catering needs,who fell in love with a supermodel and bought it for her to drive him around London because he himself did not have a driving licence.He married the supermodel later divorced her and she got the VT as part of the settlement.
It has three owners or keepers and it has just had a new clutch by Lamborghini London.This car has been parked up for a number of years in a open carpark,how i know this is because TH slipped up when telling me the tale.

jdwcd

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2,519 posts

233 months

Sunday 25th December 2011
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Rocco1 said:
Yes this is the car i looked at,as to the owner not sure.The story TH told me it belongs or belonged to a man(european name) who ownes a big catering company who also supplies airlines with all there catering needs,who fell in love with a supermodel and bought it for her to drive him around London because he himself did not have a driving licence.He married the supermodel later divorced her and she got the VT as part of the settlement.
It has three owners or keepers and it has just had a new clutch by Lamborghini London.This car has been parked up for a number of years in a open carpark,how i know this is because TH slipped up when telling me the tale.
Whats the condition of it rocco By the way Happy Christmas

Rocco1

3,091 posts

214 months

Sunday 25th December 2011
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Its okay to be fair,but not as he(TH) described it to me.It would make a stunning car if it was bought at the right price and corrected the paint work,also i remember the advice you gave me regarding the doors holding water and then corroding,and looks like that has happend to the passenger door.Wheels where a mess,rear spoiler wants taking off and putting on again,all the seals around the doors want replacing but i suppose its more cosmetic than the mechanics.Saying that i did not drive it or have it inspected,oh it needs new tyers.
To sum it up its a good car for someone who wants to put it right,the reason why i did not buy it was the man lied through his teeth and it has invoices for around £30k work done on it,its only done around 9k miles! Lamborghini London know this car i spoke to a women on service desk who knew the car and the owner/owners give Lambo London a call and maybe they can help you.
Merry Christmas

jdwcd

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2,519 posts

233 months

Sunday 25th December 2011
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If it needs that much work then he is 15k-20k over priceing it then

Rocco1

3,091 posts

214 months

Sunday 25th December 2011
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If i remember right,i am sure i was offered to buy it for £92k as it was.
Good luck if your thinking of buying it,best i would offer i was intrested to buy again would be £75k but if it was orange i would pay £80k and have it put right regardless of cost.

Mattymouse33

1,276 posts

238 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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Rocco1 said:
Its okay to be fair,but not as he(TH) described it to me.It would make a stunning car if it was bought at the right price and corrected the paint work,also i remember the advice you gave me regarding the doors holding water and then corroding,and looks like that has happend to the passenger door.Wheels where a mess,rear spoiler wants taking off and putting on again,all the seals around the doors want replacing but i suppose its more cosmetic than the mechanics.Saying that i did not drive it or have it inspected,oh it needs new tyers.
To sum it up its a good car for someone who wants to put it right,the reason why i did not buy it was the man lied through his teeth and it has invoices for around £30k work done on it,its only done around 9k miles! Lamborghini London know this car i spoke to a women on service desk who knew the car and the owner/owners give Lambo London a call and maybe they can help you.
Merry Christmas
What is wrong with the paintwork? Unless it absolutely needs a full respray which i doubt then I cant see the work above costing more than a couple of grand to be honest so is it just wear and tear of a ten year old car, stonechips on the front etc, maybe a small scuff here and there, even an elbow dink on the roof?

Tyres for £1k or so, spoiler on and off within 30 mins, new door seals are minimal, wheels refurbished for £250. As for the paint corrosion underneath the door, this is really nothing when looking at Diablos as it is common on so many unfortunately. Try and get rid of it and it'll just come straight back unless you buy a new door and even then that'll just prolong the return of it i reckon.

I dont mean to sound argumentative about the points raised but more state that these issues are not really issues. I think perhaps given the lack of Diablo inspections carried out by yourself means that you are not fully aware of the ins and outs of the cars themselves. Obviously now owning one, Im sure that will change with time (if you use it, possibly more so if you dont). They are not problematic cars however they do have various minor silly issues like most cars which you will just learn to accept and deal with.

I can understand your annoyance if the dealer was incorrect in what he told you. There was a 95 titanium VT listed as concours a few years back and it was everything but. Obviously after paying for flights and an inspection (£1k total), it was annoying to realise it was in such bad shape however not a complete waste of time as the inspection did its job and more importantly i was learning. This car needed mechanicals and all sorts of cosmetics. After this, quite a few others i saw needed work too however I had to accept the fact these cars were not brand new and therefore not in mint condition. I then paid a premium to get as clean a car as possible and im glad i did as it gave me extremely little in problems. That is probably where you sit with your SV.

Without knowing more about the car, its hard to tell but I cant agree with it requiring £20k of work therefore a hefty discount based on the relatively minor things noted so far. If the car is fine mechanically then I think it is probably worth every penny to be honest as the other things are to be expected.

As for the £30k receipts, really the details would need to be known as given the history of my own car, some people dont care about spending £8k on a service, some do and then there is the clutches at £5k. Its would be very very easy to spend £30k over 10 years on a Lamborghini, even with 9000 miles, if we did what Lamborghini always recommended. Personally I dont and I listen to the forums and independents. £30k could probably have been alot less, thats all.

Tyres, stonechips, some typical Lambo paint corrosion and some rubber seals, I tell you if this is all that car needs then the new owner will have a great car, even at £85k/£90k. Im sure it isnt as inspections throw up a lot more, its just whether they are major or minor thats all and i think that is what we need to remember


Rocco1

3,091 posts

214 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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Mattymouse33 said:
What is wrong with the paintwork? Unless it absolutely needs a full respray which i doubt then I cant see the work above costing more than a couple of grand to be honest so is it just wear and tear of a ten year old car, stonechips on the front etc, maybe a small scuff here and there, even an elbow dink on the roof?

Tyres for £1k or so, spoiler on and off within 30 mins, new door seals are minimal, wheels refurbished for £250. As for the paint corrosion underneath the door, this is really nothing when looking at Diablos as it is common on so many unfortunately. Try and get rid of it and it'll just come straight back unless you buy a new door and even then that'll just prolong the return of it i reckon.

I dont mean to sound argumentative about the points raised but more state that these issues are not really issues. I think perhaps given the lack of Diablo inspections carried out by yourself means that you are not fully aware of the ins and outs of the cars themselves. Obviously now owning one, Im sure that will change with time (if you use it, possibly more so if you dont). They are not problematic cars however they do have various minor silly issues like most cars which you will just learn to accept and deal with.

I can understand your annoyance if the dealer was incorrect in what he told you. There was a 95 titanium VT listed as concours a few years back and it was everything but. Obviously after paying for flights and an inspection (£1k total), it was annoying to realise it was in such bad shape however not a complete waste of time as the inspection did its job and more importantly i was learning. This car needed mechanicals and all sorts of cosmetics. After this, quite a few others i saw needed work too however I had to accept the fact these cars were not brand new and therefore not in mint condition. I then paid a premium to get as clean a car as possible and im glad i did as it gave me extremely little in problems. That is probably where you sit with your SV.

Without knowing more about the car, its hard to tell but I cant agree with it requiring £20k of work therefore a hefty discount based on the relatively minor things noted so far. If the car is fine mechanically then I think it is probably worth every penny to be honest as the other things are to be expected.

As for the £30k receipts, really the details would need to be known as given the history of my own car, some people dont care about spending £8k on a service, some do and then there is the clutches at £5k. Its would be very very easy to spend £30k over 10 years on a Lamborghini, even with 9000 miles, if we did what Lamborghini always recommended. Personally I dont and I listen to the forums and independents. £30k could probably have been alot less, thats all.

Tyres, stonechips, some typical Lambo paint corrosion and some rubber seals, I tell you if this is all that car needs then the new owner will have a great car, even at £85k/£90k. Im sure it isnt as inspections throw up a lot more, its just whether they are major or minor thats all and i think that is what we need to remember
why not go and pay a visit to TH and see the car for yourself and then you will know for certain what it is worth,for as i have said before,well lets not get it to all that again.

Mattymouse33

1,276 posts

238 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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Rocco1 said:
why not go and pay a visit to TH and see the car for yourself and then you will know for certain what it is worth,for as i have said before,well lets not get it to all that again.
Im just saying that based on the post above, it doesnt warrant a £15k to £20k discount


jdwcd

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2,519 posts

233 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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Mattymouse33 said:
Im just saying that based on the post above, it doesnt warrant a £15k to £20k discount
You are a fine person to say all that mat. Didn't you complain about the paint job on your car. You told everyone you paid 20k. As for inspections. I think I know a little bit more about 6 litres than you. Having worked on mine in great depth. There is more parts in these cars than you think, a 6 has a lot more than the old vt and can be very expensive if left unused, especially if left in an open car park, wheels being done properly can cost 1800 quid, don't forget these are magnesium too. Door paint. Properly done, = a lot of work, blending the paint in too = not justbthe door, corrosion under the paint too. Tyres. Well. If you can get them at the moment. Yes a grand if available. 3k from a main dealer. Engine sensors. If not used. Over 2k. And yes I've done it. Rear wing, yes 30 mins. What about the bonding on the carbon fibre and the elongated holes that need repairing, it's not an old vt mat. I wouldn't like to drive at 200 with a wing that's not fitted correctly, let's look at brakes. 5k. If the disc has 5mm plus cracks then Lamborghini recommend changing them. It is an Italian car and they do rust and corrode underneath, being left outside isn't clever. Just because the pictures look nice doesn't mean it's a great car. Rocco has seen the car, I havnt, but will be calling the seller to discuss.

del 203

12,728 posts

280 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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jdwcd said:
Lots...
Belated Xmas present ?




Hope you had a good one drinkdrunkdrink

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diablo_pete

3,595 posts

226 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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Mattymouse33 said:
Tyres, stonechips, some typical Lambo paint corrosion and some rubber seals,
Hi Matt, not read this through so I may have it wrong, but from experience many diablo rubber seals are around £1000 each. I reckon the most over priced parts of the car.

Rocco1

3,091 posts

214 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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jdwcd i am sure you can make this car what it was like when it was new.You seem to know your onions and i have every bit faith in you that you are up to the job.
I am no expert but from what i saw it put me off,but it can be corrected into one of the best examples out there,just that i dont have the time and knowledge to do this.Good luck with it and i know for sure it has a plenty of history all documented.Good luck again,and buy the way it is not solid black,it is met grey/black.

andrew

10,365 posts

223 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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diablo_pete said:
Mattymouse33 said:
Tyres, stonechips, some typical Lambo paint corrosion and some rubber seals,
Hi Matt, not read this through so I may have it wrong, but from experience many diablo rubber seals are around £1000 each. I reckon the most over priced parts of the car.
yeah, but what do you know ?

diablo_pete

3,595 posts

226 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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andrew said:
yeah, but what do you know ?
What everything? Have you got a spare 5 minutes?

andrew

10,365 posts

223 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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diablo_pete said:
andrew said:
yeah, but what do you know ?
What everything? Have you got a spare 5 minutes?
three, tops !

Taffymoto

49 posts

214 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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jdwcd said:
You are a fine person to say all that mat. Didn't you complain about the paint job on your car. You told everyone you paid 20k. As for inspections. I think I know a little bit more about 6 litres than you. Having worked on mine in great depth. There is more parts in these cars than you think, a 6 has a lot more than the old vt and can be very expensive if left unused, especially if left in an open car park, wheels being done properly can cost 1800 quid, don't forget these are magnesium too. Door paint. Properly done, = a lot of work, blending the paint in too = not justbthe door, corrosion under the paint too. Tyres. Well. If you can get them at the moment. Yes a grand if available. 3k from a main dealer. Engine sensors. If not used. Over 2k. And yes I've done it. Rear wing, yes 30 mins. What about the bonding on the carbon fibre and the elongated holes that need repairing, it's not an old vt mat. I wouldn't like to drive at 200 with a wing that's not fitted correctly, let's look at brakes. 5k. If the disc has 5mm plus cracks then Lamborghini recommend changing them. It is an Italian car and they do rust and corrode underneath, being left outside isn't clever. Just because the pictures look nice doesn't mean it's a great car. Rocco has seen the car, I havnt, but will be calling the seller to discuss.
What an aggressive response.

Grant76

1,381 posts

236 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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Taffymoto said:
jdwcd said:
You are a fine person to say all that mat. Didn't you complain about the paint job on your car. You told everyone you paid 20k. As for inspections. I think I know a little bit more about 6 litres than you. Having worked on mine in great depth. There is more parts in these cars than you think, a 6 has a lot more than the old vt and can be very expensive if left unused, especially if left in an open car park, wheels being done properly can cost 1800 quid, don't forget these are magnesium too. Door paint. Properly done, = a lot of work, blending the paint in too = not justbthe door, corrosion under the paint too. Tyres. Well. If you can get them at the moment. Yes a grand if available. 3k from a main dealer. Engine sensors. If not used. Over 2k. And yes I've done it. Rear wing, yes 30 mins. What about the bonding on the carbon fibre and the elongated holes that need repairing, it's not an old vt mat. I wouldn't like to drive at 200 with a wing that's not fitted correctly, let's look at brakes. 5k. If the disc has 5mm plus cracks then Lamborghini recommend changing them. It is an Italian car and they do rust and corrode underneath, being left outside isn't clever. Just because the pictures look nice doesn't mean it's a great car. Rocco has seen the car, I havnt, but will be calling the seller to discuss.
What an aggressive response.
Indeed. Lovely stuff.

From memory he isn't too keen on Matt from a thread a few years back, nice that people let things go after such a long time....

del 203

12,728 posts

280 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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Grant76 said:
From memory he isn't too keen on Matt from a thread a few years back, nice that people let things go after such a long time....
You boys stick together over that border rolleyes

jdwcd

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2,519 posts

233 months

Monday 26th December 2011
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Taffymoto said:
What an aggressive response.
Er no not really. But when mat wanted help and we all gave it to him, he threw it back in our faces.
And his response was a dig at me.