Value for Money: 2010 Cali vs. Brand New FF
Value for Money: 2010 Cali vs. Brand New FF
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lordbluf

Original Poster:

381 posts

208 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Any thoughts on what will depreciate/lose me the most £££.

I have a little kid so need a 4 seater....

Assume i have 2 options: £130K California 1 prev. owner, or brand new FF c.£250K.
All things being equal, any views on what would cost me the most if i were to sell it in, say, Jan 2014?



Lord.

BelfastBoy

779 posts

191 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Just in passing, but is it optimistic to consider the California a genuine 4 seater? The rear space has always looked pretty cramped to me, even for kids.

johnnyreggae

3,172 posts

191 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Surely you'd barely get delivery of the FF before end 2013 unless its already ordered ? If you buying a premium car now in a couple of years you can write off the premium plus probably fifty grand

Having said that a four year old California probably wouldn't be worth much more than £ 80

Council Baby

19,746 posts

221 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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johnnyreggae said:
Having said that a four year old California probably wouldn't be worth much more than £ 80
I'll take 2 please wink

Davey S2

13,394 posts

285 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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I suspect the FF will follow the depreciation curve of most 4 seater V12 Ferraris and fall like a stone.

lordbluf

Original Poster:

381 posts

208 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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2 year waiting list for FF - surely not? I thought 10-12 months worst case right?

my little'un is 8months old, so if the Cali cannot accommodate her biddy legs, i guess we are all F**ked!

F355GTS

3,875 posts

286 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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lordbluf said:
2 year waiting list for FF - surely not? I thought 10-12 months worst case right?

my little'un is 8months old, so if the Cali cannot accommodate her biddy legs, i guess we are all F**ked!
you'll be alright, behind a medium height driver you'll be good up to 10 - 12 Years old but they do sit up high in the back

pic of nine year old in mine




I think a used California is becoming good value with some barely over £100k and has the advantage of roof down too. The FF is a different proposition, (I suspect you'd be paying a premium for one right now or waiting a fair time for a new order) but no doubt a very impressive family express

F355GTS

3,875 posts

286 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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oh and checkout car seats, some have had issues with the fit in the back of the California

leeGT2

311 posts

190 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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I wouldnt go for an FF... you are likely to lose a fortune on it in couple of years time. I could bet that in 4 years you'd lose atleast 100K assuming you purchased one for 250k. I certainly wouldnt pay a premium for one. The FF is surely a better drive than a Cali, but money wise you are far better off with a cali and you have the benefit of a cabrio.

martinvantage

320 posts

210 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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If depreciation and your timings are key, go for the California.
Now to hijack the thread. New California at say 180k or a used 458 for about 10k more. Which will hold its value best over 18 months?

Chris_VRS

2,472 posts

224 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Both are obviously going to drop in value, the FF has more to lose being the more expensive/newer car as is the way with previous V12 Ferrari models.

I personally feel California's have a little way to fall too in the middle part of the year, especially when the uprated HGTE style cars start to be delivered.

Space wise the FF has room aplenty, I'm 6'1" and can comfortably sit behind an equivalent sized driver so kids will have acres of room.
Boot space is good too, usable shape so you can actually carry 4 peoples luggage unlike a 612.

Rear California seats are very upright as per a previous post, not comfortable on a longer trip regardless of age/size of kid. I'd think that if you were a 10/12yr old or older you wouldn't enjoy sitting in the rear of a California.

Most importantly get out there and drive both, with child in tow to see which is most suitable for your needs.

I was in my local dealer (Swindon, Dick Lovett) a couple of weeks ago and they had a cancelled order FF in the showroom in Black - very, very nice in Black too...now to win the Euromillions on Friday!idea

lordbluf

Original Poster:

381 posts

208 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Chris_VRS said:
Both are obviously going to drop in value, the FF has more to lose being the more expensive/newer car as is the way with previous V12 Ferrari models.

I personally feel California's have a little way to fall too in the middle part of the year, especially when the uprated HGTE style cars start to be delivered.

Space wise the FF has room aplenty, I'm 6'1" and can comfortably sit behind an equivalent sized driver so kids will have acres of room.
Boot space is good too, usable shape so you can actually carry 4 peoples luggage unlike a 612.

Rear California seats are very upright as per a previous post, not comfortable on a longer trip regardless of age/size of kid. I'd think that if you were a 10/12yr old or older you wouldn't enjoy sitting in the rear of a California.

Most importantly get out there and drive both, with child in tow to see which is most suitable for your needs.

I was in my local dealer (Swindon, Dick Lovett) a couple of weeks ago and they had a cancelled order FF in the showroom in Black - very, very nice in Black too...now to win the Euromillions on Friday!idea
I had put a deposit on a Cali at Lovetts in Swindon back in July last year - but i warned them that I predicted that it would not fit a rear facing baby seat (they had been told by Ferrari it would...) 24hrs later and 10 trips to various Mothercare/Halfords in Swindon etc, they gave up and handed me back my deposit. Baby is 1yr old in March = the use of a forward facing child seat, meaning the Cali is possiblity...

I think most of you are right, Cali is safer choice. I just wish is was a bit more sexy/angry looking - it's smiley face vent is for too friendly for a super car...

andy355

1,347 posts

269 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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agree with you on the smiley face. side profile is perfect though. pic on my profile is a good angle. i was going to sell mine but in 2 minds now, really is a great car way ahead of anything else i have had

isuk

1,526 posts

247 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Just fit the vintage grille to emphasise the traditional egg crate Ferrari grille and give the car more presence. There is also the option of the GTO style mesh grille. Here is my last Cali with the vintage grille.


andy355

1,347 posts

269 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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never seen the mesh grill. is it new?

isuk

1,526 posts

247 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Yes, the GTO grille is a recent dealer fit option. Here it is.



andy355

1,347 posts

269 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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thanks. would help keep leaves out too!

isuk

1,526 posts

247 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Factory promo pic.


kryten22uk

2,350 posts

262 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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F355GTS said:
I think a used California is becoming good value with some barely over £100k
where have you seen those? Ive barely seen any under £120k.

whoami

13,201 posts

271 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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isuk said:
Just fit the vintage grille to emphasise the traditional egg crate Ferrari grille and give the car more presence. There is also the option of the GTO style mesh grille. Here is my last Cali with the vintage grille.

Looks more like a Vantage grill, ie "borrowed" from Aston Martin... smile