599 or 612???
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Superblower

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77 posts

178 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Ok I'll make it very easy. I'm gagging for a 599 but can't justify 100k on one. Is a 612 going to make a good interim stop gap, or will I not bother getting a 599 after a 612 as it's too similar? Would keep for 2 years.

RevHappy

1,850 posts

193 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Wouldn't a 575 be a better stop gap?

Superblower

Original Poster:

77 posts

178 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Forgot to say it will be a daily driver, 612 seems more user friendly, and just newer. Looking at a early car so 575 will be similar money as well. So would prefer the newer car.

RevHappy

1,850 posts

193 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Superblower said:
Forgot to say it will be a daily driver, 612 seems more user friendly, and just newer. Looking at a early car so 575 will be similar money as well. So would prefer the newer car.
If you wanted a 599 I take you don't need four seats which is one of the main reasons for the 612.
Newer, well if your looking at a early 612, a late 575 will only be a year your two older, they share the same block so your still looking at belt changes and similar service and running costs. Only the later 612 07/08 cars feel newer with the improved box and newer nav consol but they are a chunk more money.
The 575 will hold its value more so it will be less of a cost to trade up to the 599 once they hit five figures which they will in a couple of years. Drive both and see how you feel, give an early 430 a go as well..

911Thrasher

2,573 posts

230 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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One of my neighbor has been running his black 575 daily since new - parked outside, SW7 central london, used every single day to go back and forth to work...never missed a beat! And looks stunning, turns heads all the time.

MaxAndRuby

6,792 posts

263 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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Love the 550/575. Is it my imagination, or are they starting to climb price wise?

johnnyreggae

3,172 posts

191 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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When there last was a thread on 575 they were selling at fifties & sixties now some are asking & getting sixties & seventies

911Thrasher

2,573 posts

230 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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Very true - bear in mind that most cars have been out there for sale for months.

The new more expensive ones tend to be very low mileage and the later ones, as well as very rare: manual, HGTE, carbon seats...whatever other rare options.

jshell

12,116 posts

236 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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Superblower said:
Forgot to say it will be a daily driver, 612 seems more user friendly, and just newer. Looking at a early car so 575 will be similar money as well. So would prefer the newer car.
At least you'll be able to sell the 599 later without astonishing & traditional 4-seater Ferrari 612 depreciation. Super-ugly fker it is too...

MaxAndRuby

6,792 posts

263 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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jshell said:
Super-ugly fker it is too...
rofl

That's a bit harsh!

jshell

12,116 posts

236 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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MaxAndRuby said:
jshell said:
Super-ugly fker it is too...
rofl

That's a bit harsh!
O'rly?



jackal

11,251 posts

313 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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RevHappy said:
If you wanted a 599 I take you don't need four seats which is one of the main reasons for the 612.
Newer, well if your looking at a early 612, a late 575 will only be a year your two older, they share the same block so your still looking at belt changes and similar service and running costs. Only the later 612 07/08 cars feel newer with the improved box and newer nav consol but they are a chunk more money.
The 575 will hold its value more so it will be less of a cost to trade up to the 599 once they hit five figures which they will in a couple of years. Drive both and see how you feel, give an early 430 a go as well..
599s already have hit 5 figures i thought ?

RevHappy

1,850 posts

193 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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jackal said:
599s already have hit 5 figures i thought ?
There's a few high milers just under now I guess.

911Thrasher

2,573 posts

230 months

Sunday 15th January 2012
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Not sure 99,950 really counts (indeed a few w/ 25/30+ kmiles)...unless the shop selling them are actually ready to let them go for a good 10k less.

I actually rteally like this one with the rare roll cage - wonder if harnesses can easily be added. But like said above, would need quite a discount from the seller to tempt me. Not even sure I would swap it against my RS (white 997.1RS w/ 28kmiles) at par - I'd probably want some cash back!

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3379923.htm

Kilsoj

163 posts

194 months

Sunday 15th January 2012
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the above is exactly my problem.... have a 360 going to jump into something else.....

considering a 612, i think the back is great an actually love the front

a 430 is possibility too

599 doesnt appeal to me at all tho

AJSG

327 posts

218 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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Superblower said:
Forgot to say it will be a daily driver, 612 seems more user friendly, and just newer. Looking at a early car so 575 will be similar money as well. So would prefer the newer car.
Its fine as a daily commuter...does speed bumps etc. Also it carries 4 people which the 575 doesn't. Also the 575 looks too much like a 550, which was built in relatively high numbers. The 612 is slightly more "old man", but it suits me fine.

My plan is to own this 612 for 4 years and then buy an FF.

AJSG

327 posts

218 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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jshell said:
At least you'll be able to sell the 599 later without astonishing & traditional 4-seater Ferrari 612 depreciation. Super-ugly fker it is too...
Indeed, but if you buy a 2006-7 for 75k your downside is pretty limited. Also if you cannot take 20k of depreciation over a few years you shouldn't buy a car...of any kind. Its 26% over a few years...most cars do that.

With regards to the look its a very personal thing, I like to think that what the "people" think is ugly, is normally quite good looking. See Alfa SZ as an example.


jshell

12,116 posts

236 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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AJSG said:
Indeed, but if you buy a 2006-7 for 75k your downside is pretty limited. Also if you cannot take 20k of depreciation over a few years you shouldn't buy a car...of any kind. Its 26% over a few years...most cars do that.
I agree with you, but so many threads about 'I earn 30k, can I run a Ferrari/Lambo etc?' worry me about many owners and problems being stacked up.

Luke Edmiston

855 posts

178 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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I have an Aston DBS, which followed a DB9 and also have recently bought a 430 Spider which followed a 360 Spider. Point is that, although I haven't driven a Ferrari V12, a 430 (or even 360) is a very different car to a front engined V12. It feels much more raw, more fragile (try driving over too many UK road potholes after paying out for new suspension components every few thousand miles..) For me the front engined V12 Aston is a car that can be used regularly but it takes a lot more effort to use a 430 on a daily basis. There is just something about a mid-engined V8 Ferrari though - on some days there's nothing like it..

MaxAndRuby

6,792 posts

263 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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Like Luke I had a DB9 as an everyday car, and it's an entirely feasible proposition. I love my F430 more than any car I've ever had, but there's no way I would want it as a daily driver.