Mille Miglia Tribute - trouble filling it?
Discussion
Having participated in the Ferrari Tribute to the Mille Miglia in 2010, I have received calls from Italy asking if I plan to enter again in May 2012 and have now received an email extending the final date for registration to February 24th. Does anyone know, are they having trouble getting enough entrants this year?
traxx said:
Odd because IMO it was a fantastic event
There are not many times when you can still get away with driving at close to 200mph on a public road with the police cheering you on.
And that's why someone got killed last year.There are not many times when you can still get away with driving at close to 200mph on a public road with the police cheering you on.
The MM tribute is a bad joke, the driving standards are shocking and the whole thing devalues what was once a great marque and event.
I think you're a little unfair, Pixelpimp. We did the first one and the standard of driving was generally good - fast but good. I heard that some of the driving at the second event was a bit suspect but am not aware of anyone being killed. If you don't have access to a car qualifying for the MM proper, it's as close as you're going to get and it is an amazing experience. If you don't believe me dig out Harry Metcalf's report in one of last years Evos or Steve Cropley's in Autocar in 2010 when they were running an F430 as a longtermer and took part in the MM Tribute.
willy wombat said:
I think you're a little unfair, Pixelpimp. We did the first one and the standard of driving was generally good - fast but good. I heard that some of the driving at the second event was a bit suspect but am not aware of anyone being killed. If you don't have access to a car qualifying for the MM proper, it's as close as you're going to get and it is an amazing experience. If you don't believe me dig out Harry Metcalf's report in one of last years Evos or Steve Cropley's in Autocar in 2010 when they were running an F430 as a longtermer and took part in the MM Tribute.
+1. I doubt pixelpimp has personal experience of participating in these events.I drove both the Mille Miglia Storica (commonly known as THE Mille Miglia) in 2011 and the MM Tribute in 2010. I found the standard of driving in the Mille Miglia Storica to be much worse than the Tribute (both of which I am fairly sure vary year-by-year but it shocked me to see what people do in cars with drum brakes). People on the internet are quick to jump on the band wagon and blame the modern Ferrari drivers but it is just a matter of luck that none of the Storica drivers have had fatal accidents in recent years. It has to be said, though, that the driving in the 2011 Tribute also left plenty to be desired. A 599GTO was turned over and a motorbike was hit by a Ferrari. I am unaware of any fatals. In short, both events need to become a bit more responsible on the road, but it's all down to you anyway. Nobody forces you to drive like a maniac, it is all on public roads with normal speed laws and it's up to you as a driver to make responsible decisions.
I found the Tribute to be a great experience and doing the MM last year confirmed it is 95% the same as the Storica. One caveat, though, I do think you have to take part in a classic Ferrari to get close to the feeling of driving the MM. Taking a 458 makes it too comfortable and easy. I had boiling clutch fluid driving up the mountain of San Marino and we nearly didn't finish because of a failed Lucas switch, now THAT replicates the MM!
In no way does the Tribute make a farce of the true event and the Italian public certainly seems to agree. But I do think they should try and get more classic cars in. The problem is that they are shooting themselves in the foot with the required, expensive, certification.
Regarding the original topic: I'm not sure what car you used to participate with, willywombat, but if it was a classic then they will give you a ring for sure. They don't have trouble filling it with F430's and Californias, but they want to get more classics in and they struggle to get those to participate.
Onno
Shmee said:
Oh wow I had no idea it was that exclusive. I'd hope if we apply we'll be sure of a place. Be interesting to find the actual number they will accept.
Should be around 150 cars or so. Quite a few places are famous people and Italians, after those they want to maximise the number of countries participating and the number of classics participating. If you subscribe with a modern Ferrari and you don't have the contacts, don't hold your breath particularly if you come from a "high volume country" such as the UK or Germany. Even if you do have the contacts the chances are slim, but it helps if you buy a Ferrari every year....In a classic Ferrari (1958 - 1968) you have a very good chance, provided the car is certified by the Ferrari factory.
Onno
pixelpimp said:
And that's why someone got killed last year.
The MM tribute is a bad joke, the driving standards are shocking and the whole thing devalues what was once a great marque and event.
I don't think anyone did get killed, one of the GTO's went head-on into a motorbike but I don't think the guy died and anyway it was the bike that came round the corner on the wrong side of the road.The MM tribute is a bad joke, the driving standards are shocking and the whole thing devalues what was once a great marque and event.
Sure there were a few other crashes but I thought the standard of driving was fine.
Much more of an issue was that on the Saturday afternoon it was as if everyone in Italy with a sportscar had come out to race the course since the police clearly decided anyone could drive as fast as they liked for the day
mhh said:
I thought about the event - it looks like a blast - but then I remembered insurance. I know it's public roads at "legal" speeds but I'm sure the average insurance policy would have some fine print to help them refuse a claim.
I doubt it unless its a competitive event. There are no timings as far as I am aware so it's no different to driving in Italy on holiday. mhh said:
I thought about the event - it looks like a blast - but then I remembered insurance. I know it's public roads at "legal" speeds but I'm sure the average insurance policy would have some fine print to help them refuse a claim.
There is timing involved so you do need to tell your insurers. If you are with Locktons, who do the FOC policy, they will cover you it at no extra charge. JazzyO - well impressed that you did the Storica the following year. When we did the Tribute it was only in a 599 GTB so not exactly a classic but still they chase. It has proved a bit expensive as my wife felt that she/we bonded with the car so well on the Tribute and subsequent holiday which included Monaco for the GP that she won't let me sell it so any other toys have to be as well as the 599, not instead of.
JazzyO said:
Should be around 150 cars or so. Quite a few places are famous people and Italians, after those they want to maximise the number of countries participating and the number of classics participating. If you subscribe with a modern Ferrari and you don't have the contacts, don't hold your breath particularly if you come from a "high volume country" such as the UK or Germany. Even if you do have the contacts the chances are slim, but it helps if you buy a Ferrari every year....
In a classic Ferrari (1958 - 1968) you have a very good chance, provided the car is certified by the Ferrari factory.
Onno
Fortunately the guy I'd do it with has 4 current Ferraris including one very special one that I'm sure they wouldn't refuse. Definitely going to push him to get it booked if the insurance side is ok!In a classic Ferrari (1958 - 1968) you have a very good chance, provided the car is certified by the Ferrari factory.
Onno
mhh said:
I thought about the event - it looks like a blast - but then I remembered insurance. I know it's public roads at "legal" speeds but I'm sure the average insurance policy would have some fine print to help them refuse a claim.
A lot of the Americans had massive insurance problems with the event and had to pay way up.For us Europeans you are automatically covered for everything except the track sections (which you won't get insurance for) and the "timed" sections - ironically both of these are the slowest part of the whole event
I was there last year, incredible event and reminder that some countries (ie Italy) still welcome and celebrate cars.
No issues driving in the same direction as the race. Strongly advise against driving in the opposite direction. Everyone in Italy is expected to move out of the way of both tribute race and MM proper. Lots of crazy overtakes and it was a wonder there weren't more incidents. Then again Italians drive crazy all the time so you can imagine what they're like in a 'race'!
No issues driving in the same direction as the race. Strongly advise against driving in the opposite direction. Everyone in Italy is expected to move out of the way of both tribute race and MM proper. Lots of crazy overtakes and it was a wonder there weren't more incidents. Then again Italians drive crazy all the time so you can imagine what they're like in a 'race'!
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