Next gen Gallardo not due for another 2 years?

[Wanta996Gotta]

Read this small snippet from Autocar where Winkelmann seems to hint that the next Gen Gallardo is still 2 years away? There surely cant be many other high performance cars bar the DB9 thats not really changed since its launch in 2003?

I was sure the Gallardo replacement was going to be launched this year?? I guess we should be expecting more incarnations of the current model though not sure what they can really do with it to freshen it up bar more BHP???. Problem they have IMO is the MP12 and 458 who have moved the game on for not that much more.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/...

Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Monday 30th January 16:03

[iandc]

So does that mean even more "special" versions. Interestingly none of the latest have any more power or less weight than the SL. They look like marketing hype rather than any new developments before the new model is out. Oh well there is always the Aventador I guess!!

[bigricho]

Wanta996Gotta said:

There surely cant be many other high performance cars bar the DB9 thats not really changed since its launch in 2003?

Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Monday 30th January 16:03

A little bit OT, but would anyone else not be entirely surprised if they just slowly fazed out production of DB9 as to me the Virage looks like its direct replacement to me?

[Wanta996Gotta]

bigricho said:

A little bit OT, but would anyone else not be entirely surprised if they just slowly fazed out production of DB9 as to me the Virage looks like its direct replacement to me?

I agree, i chuckled to myself as a neighbour bought a brand new DB9 just as the Virage was launched. I hate to think of the hit they will get come trade-in time. Story on PH news of a DBS "carbon edition" at close to £200k shows the lengths they can go to keep an old timer relevant.

The Conti GT was another high performance car released in 2003 along with the Gallardo but that has just recently been changed to an all new model.

[kbf1981]

Wanta996Gotta said:

Read this small snippet from Autocar where Winkelmann seems to hint that the next Gen Gallardo is still 2 years away? There surely cant be many other high performance cars bar the DB9 thats not really changed since its launch in 2003?

I was sure the Gallardo replacement was going to be launched this year?? I guess we should be expecting more incarnations of the current model though not sure what they can really do with it to freshen it up bar more BHP???. Problem they have IMO is the MP12 and 458 who have moved the game on for not that much more.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/...

Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Monday 30th January 16:03

I know there's a lot of talk about how the 458 / MP4 etc. has moved the game on....but I'd still have an LP over the MP4. The 458 and LP would be a much closer decision.

It's still a great car - and the next Gallardo is going to be epic. Look at the Aventador - hit 230mph in recent testing, crazy acceleration, and looks amazing. It also looks like the Reventon.....so given Lambo recently released the Siesto, what's the betting the next Gallardo looks pretty much like that?

For a car that has roots in 2003, it's moved on quite a bit within that time frame and the car's still epic - it looks brilliant, is arguably still one of the "prettiest" supercars out there, sounds epic, and the LP570's faster round a track than a 458 / MP4 in most testing I've seen.

All great cars, but I don't think there's that much of a gap in anything except for "livability" - as the MP4 and 458 are both much easier to use day to day due to the better boxes.

[iandc]

I think it is unrealistic to say the 560-4 is the same car as the 2003 Gallardo. Since 2003 there have been a number of updates and the introduction of the 560-4 model. I have owned both Gallardo (2006) and 560-4 and they are totally different cars in lots of ways. Just because they look similar they should not be judged as a car which is now "9 years old". Its like saying the Porche 911 or Boxter is same car as the original.

[Tuscan Rat]

I read on Lambo Londons Facebook the other week that Winkelmann had announced there would be a Third model in the Lamborghin range soon.

[maser_spyder]

Tuscan Rat said:

I read on Lambo Londons Facebook the other week that Winkelmann had announced there would be a Third model in the Lamborghin range soon.

[UH-Matt]

YES!

[tuscaneer]

UH-Matt said:

YES!

that's pretty funny that!! a proper badass.but in minature!!

[Wanta996Gotta]

iandc said:

I think it is unrealistic to say the 560-4 is the same car as the 2003 Gallardo. Since 2003 there have been a number of updates and the introduction of the 560-4 model. I have owned both Gallardo (2006) and 560-4 and they are totally different cars in lots of ways. Just because they look similar they should not be judged as a car which is now "9 years old". Its like saying the Porche 911 or Boxter is same car as the original.

Come on, we are all aware of the updates. But its essentially the same car. Its like me saying a 2004 Porsche 997 is totally different from the facelifted outgoing 2011 997. Yes there has been some updates with regards to power and dampners and the odd tweeks to the rear lights,front bumpers & sat nav but its essentially the same 997. Anyone buying a new Gallardo at MP12/458 pricing must have more money than sense IMO.

Lambo Sevenoaks have 4 NEW Gallardos priced £190K+ which i would be interested what they actually sell for.

[TaylotS2K]

I think you're right in terms of pricing. However, some people don't get to drive these cars at full throttle and buy the car for pose value and looks alone. The Gallardo IMO - is still the better looking car over the 458 and MP4.

[kbf1981]

Wanta996Gotta said:

iandc said:

I think it is unrealistic to say the 560-4 is the same car as the 2003 Gallardo. Since 2003 there have been a number of updates and the introduction of the 560-4 model. I have owned both Gallardo (2006) and 560-4 and they are totally different cars in lots of ways. Just because they look similar they should not be judged as a car which is now "9 years old". Its like saying the Porche 911 or Boxter is same car as the original.

Come on, we are all aware of the updates. But its essentially the same car. Its like me saying a 2004 Porsche 997 is totally different from the facelifted outgoing 2011 997. Yes there has been some updates with regards to power and dampners and the odd tweeks to the rear lights,front bumpers & sat nav but its essentially the same 997. Anyone buying a new Gallardo at MP12/458 pricing must have more money than sense IMO.

Lambo Sevenoaks have 4 NEW Gallardos priced £190K+ which i would be interested what they actually sell for.

Wasn't the 997 a heavily modified 996? So from 1999 Porsche went through 996, 997.1, 997.2 all using the same base technology, showing how far the platform could be stretched.

Ferrari passed on a lot of tech from the 360-430 (and the 360 borrowed a lot from the 355 didn't it?).

Aside from drivability (comfort, gear change), what makes a 458 / MP4 a superior car? Track times an LP560 isn't far behind a 458, and an LP570 beats it. The MP4....no idea where that comes as the track times posted by various journalists have been all over the place.

[SonnyM]

Well the Gallrdo replacement Cabrera (goat herder) was announced on PH 9 months ago...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=23&...

[StuTorqueProject]

My understanding:

2012 MY is Aventador Coupe
2013 MY is Aventador Roadster
2014 MY is Gallardo Replacement - I'd expect to see this at Geneva 2013

What they do with the Gallardo between now and then could well be interesting!

[andrew]

StuTorqueProject said:

My understanding:

2012 MY is Aventador Coupe
2013 MY is Aventador Roadster
2014 MY is Gallardo Replacement - I'd expect to see this at Geneva 2013

What they do with the Gallardo between now and then could well be interesting!

so current gallardo production would cease with the 2013 summer shutdown ?

[StuTorqueProject]

andrew said:

so current gallardo production would cease with the 2013 summer shutdown ?

I suspect so, but Mr. Winkelmann could probably advise you better.

[iandc]

StuTorqueProject said:

My understanding:

2012 MY is Aventador Coupe
2013 MY is Aventador Roadster
2014 MY is Gallardo Replacement - I'd expect to see this at Geneva 2013

What they do with the Gallardo between now and then could well be interesting!

How about a Gallardo SV? lower weight (say sub 1300kgs) and more power (say 590bhp)?? Just a thought as the current Blancpain and Super Trofeo are pretty much a SL with fancy bits.

[andrew]

iandc said:

StuTorqueProject said:

My understanding:

2012 MY is Aventador Coupe
2013 MY is Aventador Roadster
2014 MY is Gallardo Replacement - I'd expect to see this at Geneva 2013

What they do with the Gallardo between now and then could well be interesting!

How about a Gallardo SV? lower weight (say sub 1300kgs) and more power (say 590bhp)?? Just a thought as the current Blancpain and Super Trofeo are pretty much a SL with fancy bits.

and a big rear wing

[sherbert90]

iandc said:

How about a Gallardo SV? lower weight (say sub 1300kgs) and more power (say 590bhp)?? Just a thought as the current Blancpain and Super Trofeo are pretty much a SL with fancy bits.

I doubt they would do an SV version, the SV moniker is reserved for the 'big' Lambos. Would love to see one though.