Tom Hartley Jnr goes it alone
Tom Hartley Jnr goes it alone
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Streetrod

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6,480 posts

227 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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I am not sure I get this. I have just seen a full page add in this months Motor Sport magazine for TH Jnr new venture. It appears he has split from his father and brother and is setting up his own dealership in Derbyshire. According to the add he is going to specialise even more on the classics market place but will still sell modern luxury cars. Seems he wants to ride the classics market before the bubble bursts.

What is even odder is that his website is www.tomhartleyjnr.com which really stands him apart from his fathers business which is www.tomhartley.com Not!!

Now I know TH Jnr is a divisive character as has been born out by many threads on here. But why start another business that appears on the surface to be a replica of his fathers, am I missing something?? Are they not just going to be chasing exactly the same customers??

Pork

9,455 posts

255 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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I'd guess his is classics with a few modern, while Snr is more the modern stuff?

He does seem to be more focused on the classics based on his twitterings.

MrSparks

652 posts

141 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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Streetrod said:
Now I know TH Jnr is a divisive character as has been born out by many threads on here. But why start another business that appears on the surface to be a replica of his fathers, am I missing something?? Are they not just going to be chasing exactly the same customers??
I don't really know the company or the ins and outs behind this, but having worked for my dad for the past 10 years I can easily see how this sort of thing happens biggrin

ro51ter

4,999 posts

218 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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Sounds like a family bust up to me!

Wacky Racer

40,453 posts

268 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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ro51ter said:
Sounds like a family bust up to me!
No evidence to support that theory, maybe he just fancied starting up on his own, with a little help from Tom snr..

scratchchin.

sng45

497 posts

197 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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Just had a glance at the website - doesn't seem to be active, the only link is to his twitter page - some interesting language used on there and not what I would imagine would present a professional image at all - perhaps I'm just completely out of touch and the "F" and "C" words are what's required to launch a business nowadays !

williamp

20,067 posts

294 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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He is 30 years old and has "nearly 20 years of experience and passion". Quite a claim!

ro51ter

4,999 posts

218 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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Wacky Racer said:
No evidence to support that theory, maybe he just fancied starting up on his own, with a little help from Tom snr..

scratchchin.
Why on earth would he leave an established family business?????

andy355

1,345 posts

259 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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As far as I understand it, tom snr has been doing his other project mainly the park homes business

Tom jnr and Karl do the cars

Perhaps it's to concentrate on the higher end as tom jnr seemed to be dealing more in enzo's and classics of late. There was a list of "significant sales" under the classic section which was impressive.


camshafted

938 posts

186 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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williamp said:
He is 30 years old and has "nearly 20 years of experience and passion". Quite a claim!
He didn't go to school and sold his first Porsche at the age of 10/11 I think!

burwoodman

18,718 posts

267 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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camshafted said:
williamp said:
He is 30 years old and has "nearly 20 years of experience and passion". Quite a claim!
He didn't go to school and sold his first Porsche at the age of 10/11 I think!
i'm sure most know of the child in a suit image on tv. He sold that car to Jimmy Saville.

Milli94

52 posts

141 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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I wouldn't think that I'm far wrong in suggesting he's from the University of Live rather then the traditional way of learning and has probably successful because of it.

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

227 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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Milli94 said:
I wouldn't think that I'm far wrong in suggesting he's from the University of Live rather then the traditional way of learning and has probably successful because of it.
I'm guessing you too attended the 'University of Live' to read English?

Aviz

1,669 posts

190 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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Aviz

1,669 posts

190 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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I assumed that meant jnr got the basement, but a few mins ago...


Pork

9,455 posts

255 months

Sunday 1st June 2014
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Mr Gearchange said:
Milli94 said:
I wouldn't think that I'm far wrong in suggesting he's from the University of Live rather then the traditional way of learning and has probably successful because of it.
I'm guessing you too attended the 'University of Live' to read English?
I seem to recall he was home schooled. You can easily criticise their formal education (Snr and Jnr) , but they seem to do more than ok at selling cars.

GekkoRules

397 posts

243 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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I noticed stock was a bit sparse by their standards.

Guess Ton Jnr was the main buyer!

2.5pi

1,091 posts

203 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Carl was also buying and a total pleasure to deal with smile

hedges45

7 posts

140 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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Notice that TH's advert in yesterdays Sunday Times has the yellow F50 they've had for a while features and photographed. Maybe a shot over THJ's classics 'bow.

Definitely not the sort of family that can have an amicable split IMO.

camshafted

938 posts

186 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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The cars that Tom Jnr has sold over the past few years is amazing. He seems to be specialising in real bluechip investments (60s Ferraris, Mercedes Gullwings etc) while Tom Snr seems to sells your run-of-the-mill supercars.

They are also practically next to each other according to Google Maps. No idea, but maybe they have just decided to go their own way.

Edited by camshafted on Monday 30th June 16:02