admiral or aviva
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70proof

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6,148 posts

177 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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hi all

been with Aviva for a while now, are admiral okay for a lambo?

sone

4,610 posts

260 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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My only issue with Admiral is they count a driver awareness course as a conviction and up the charge accordingly.
I'm with Elephant and while they're in the same group of companies don't seem to care.

Efbe

9,251 posts

188 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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sone said:
My only issue with Admiral is they count a driver awareness course as a conviction and up the charge accordingly.
I'm with Elephant and while they're in the same group of companies don't seem to care.
only if you tell them.

It's a confidential course, so fk them and lie!

though if you have the option for the same price, do go for the others on principal!

Ferruccio

1,887 posts

141 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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Efbe said:
only if you tell them.

It's a confidential course, so fk them and lie!

though if you have the option for the same price, do go for the others on principal!
Contracts of insurance are based on full disclosure or they are open to be voided.
Could be an expensive lie.

whoami

13,173 posts

262 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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Ferruccio said:
Contracts of insurance are based on full disclosure or they are open to be voided.
Could be an expensive lie.
Indeed.

Non-disclosure is a foolish endeavour to save a few quid.

Efbe

9,251 posts

188 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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understood, but how would they ever find out, and/or corroborate it?

whoami

13,173 posts

262 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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Efbe said:
understood, but how would they ever find out, and/or corroborate it?
Who cares?

Once you've crashed your car would be the wrong time to find out.

Efbe

9,251 posts

188 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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whoami said:
Who cares?

Once you've crashed your car would be the wrong time to find out.
missing the point. how could they possibly find out with any corroboration whatsoever?

voicey

2,484 posts

209 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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With big payouts insurance companies are always looking for ways not to pay. I had a large payout from Chubb following my 360 accident and they even contemplated suing me to get the money back at one point.

And don't think the specialist insurers are any better at claims handling as in my experience they aren't.

Efbe

9,251 posts

188 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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again, how can they possibly, legally find out with any certainty?!?

they can't. There is no proof. Proof cannot be gained because fundamentally it is a confidential course.

and because it is confidential, IMO morally you have the right to lie about it all you want.

Kyodo

749 posts

146 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Fwiw, we went with Admiral for their multi-car policy and they asked about the speed awareness courses (they didn't the year before though). My wife has been on one and also has a standard three points but to honest the price was still pretty good. I'd be 100% honest and swallow the extra few quid as I'd never want to be in the position of fighting for a payout on a technicality.

Boxster S, MX5, 360 - cost in the eights for us. Previous separate costs were 500, 550, 250 respectively.

sa_20v

4,112 posts

253 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Admiral seem reasonable 70p - I have the SL, Morgan and family wagon on there for less than £2k (both drivers under 35, near enough £200k of metal). Although they wanted an extra £750 for the £20k S2 Exige so put that under another insurer for roughly half.

EpsomJames

790 posts

268 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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I'm also with Admiral, I have my SL and RenaultSport daily hack insured for £600 per annum.

tuscaneer

7,948 posts

247 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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admiral got my business on a multi car deal. f430,petrol rangey sport and bmw 320. donkey is on a reduced mileage of 3000 a year as it is now only a weekend car.....all three for me and the missus for a grand

mike01606

531 posts

171 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Efbe said:
again, how can they possibly, legally find out with any certainty?!?

they can't. There is no proof. Proof cannot be gained because fundamentally it is a confidential course.

and because it is confidential, IMO morally you have the right to lie about it all you want.
I agree there is no way they could find out ATM but where it 'could' fall down however unlikely would be if a case were to go to court.......

Say someone was reckless and had a high speed accident. They are asked under oath if you have had any previous convictions or SAC's. What should they reply then? Would it still be a good idea to fib?

Back OT......OP I'm also with Admiral. There is a lot of talk about having to use their preferred repairer etc. I understand that you have a right to choose your repairer, you just have to do some leg work and may not get a coutesy car etc. I've done this is the past with other insurers.

You might get a haircut on a full loss without agreed value but that applies to most others and I don't see them being any different.


Efbe

9,251 posts

188 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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mike01606 said:
I agree there is no way they could find out ATM but where it 'could' fall down however unlikely would be if a case were to go to court.......

Say someone was reckless and had a high speed accident. They are asked under oath if you have had any previous convictions or SAC's. What should they reply then? Would it still be a good idea to fib?

Back OT......OP I'm also with Admiral. There is a lot of talk about having to use their preferred repairer etc. I understand that you have a right to choose your repairer, you just have to do some leg work and may not get a coutesy car etc. I've done this is the past with other insurers.

You might get a haircut on a full loss without agreed value but that applies to most others and I don't see them being any different.
mike agreed. though I don't know how confidentiality works with courts.

Efbe

9,251 posts

188 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Kyodo said:
Fwiw, we went with Admiral for their multi-car policy and they asked about the speed awareness courses (they didn't the year before though). My wife has been on one and also has a standard three points but to honest the price was still pretty good. I'd be 100% honest and swallow the extra few quid as I'd never want to be in the position of fighting for a payout on a technicality.

Boxster S, MX5, 360 - cost in the eights for us. Previous separate costs were 500, 550, 250 respectively.
now this is on her record and is no-longer confidential though.

mike01606

531 posts

171 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Efbe said:
mike agreed. though I don't know how confidentiality works with courts.
Lying in court is called perjury which I'm not an expert in but I know it isn't a good idea smile

Declining to answer a question in this case may as well be "Yes' I have been on SAC!"

roygarth

2,674 posts

270 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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tuscaneer said:
admiral got my business on a multi car deal. f430,petrol rangey sport and bmw 320. donkey is on a reduced mileage of 3000 a year as it is now only a weekend car.....all three for me and the missus for a grand
That's good. What % NCD?

tuscaneer

7,948 posts

247 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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roygarth said:
That's good. What % NCD?
ten years NCB mate, not sure of the % without checking though