Huracan vs R8 Plus
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Is there only a 50k difference to be honest I thought it would be more than that!
I'm sure the R8 will be a great car and as such every bit as good as the Huracan in many ways however the styling you mentioned for one is a major issue and for me the Huracan looks every bit the super car while the R8 (as good as it is) doesn't so that in it's self warrants the price difference. If it were down to price and performance alone we'd all be driving Skylines!
The Huracan hasn't been received very well by the press and having owned one for a couple of weeks now I've absolutely no idea why it's a great car every bit as good as my 458 Italia and better than my Avenatdor in every way apart from the maybe crowd pleasing point of view.
It will gain popularity I've no doubt, some cars are just slow burners!
I'm sure the R8 will be a great car and as such every bit as good as the Huracan in many ways however the styling you mentioned for one is a major issue and for me the Huracan looks every bit the super car while the R8 (as good as it is) doesn't so that in it's self warrants the price difference. If it were down to price and performance alone we'd all be driving Skylines!
The Huracan hasn't been received very well by the press and having owned one for a couple of weeks now I've absolutely no idea why it's a great car every bit as good as my 458 Italia and better than my Avenatdor in every way apart from the maybe crowd pleasing point of view.
It will gain popularity I've no doubt, some cars are just slow burners!
Assume your talking new prices basis 120 v 170.
They are not really like for like, problem with the R8 is that it looks like a TT unless you really know what your looking at.
I know where your coming from as they share the same or similar motor, without sounding like an ar$e its not a Lamborghini / Ferrari.
Is a Huracan worth 100k more than a low mile LP ? would be more apples v apples
They are not really like for like, problem with the R8 is that it looks like a TT unless you really know what your looking at.
I know where your coming from as they share the same or similar motor, without sounding like an ar$e its not a Lamborghini / Ferrari.
Is a Huracan worth 100k more than a low mile LP ? would be more apples v apples
I don't think it's really a question of worth but of what someone will pay. Most premium car prices are highly influenced by perceived value not performance or cost to manufacture.
They probably cost similar amounts to build and mechanically they are very similar but has the Lambo got £50k's worth of wow factor over an R8 to a potential purchaser? I'd say it has.
It's the same with anything, look at the perceived value of the LV and Mulberry handbags our wives expect us to buy them over the actual increase in manufacturing cost or performance to an M&S handbag!
They probably cost similar amounts to build and mechanically they are very similar but has the Lambo got £50k's worth of wow factor over an R8 to a potential purchaser? I'd say it has.
It's the same with anything, look at the perceived value of the LV and Mulberry handbags our wives expect us to buy them over the actual increase in manufacturing cost or performance to an M&S handbag!
not just wow factor.... by brand, the audi will have to be that little bit quieter, that little bit more understeerer, that little bit more safe and predictable on the limit.... the lambo can be well, a lambo...
not sure the r8 will get the fancy handling computer thingy the huracan has... so may not be as fast on track...
and the r8 and gallardo had very different 4wd systems, not sure if they are the same this time...
not sure the r8 will get the fancy handling computer thingy the huracan has... so may not be as fast on track...
and the r8 and gallardo had very different 4wd systems, not sure if they are the same this time...
Edited by 70proof on Monday 16th March 16:39
70proof said:
not just wow factor.... by brand, the audi will have to be that little bit quieter, that little bit more understeerer, that little bit more safe and predictable on the limit.... the lambo can be well, a lambo...
not sure the r8 will get the fancy handling computer thingy the huracan has... so may not be as fast on track...
and the r8 and gallardo had very different 4wd systems, not sure if they are the same this time...
Do you really think the R8 will have more understeer? According to journos, the huracan suffers from a lot of understeer although presumably you wouldn't notice unless you were a driving god/on or near the limit and/or perhaps on a track...I thought the previous r8 was pretty sharp in the handling dept?not sure the r8 will get the fancy handling computer thingy the huracan has... so may not be as fast on track...
and the r8 and gallardo had very different 4wd systems, not sure if they are the same this time...
Edited by 70proof on Monday 16th March 16:39
supercampeao said:
do you really think the R8 will have more understeer? According to journos, the huracan suffers from a lot of understeer although presumably you wouldn't notice unless you were a driving god/on or near the limit and/or perhaps on a track...I thought the previous r8 was pretty sharp in the handling dept?
bar the odd example, all audi 4wd cars lack feel and tend to understeer.... its a trait that will protect most drivers from coming to harm with oversteer.... so I would expect the r8 to understeer more than the huracan, as audi would rather be associated with understeer than widow maker oversteer.... its not just the software, the tyres are audi or lambo spec, the latter will be more grippy and wear more, Pirelli alters the compounds a bit according to what the manufacturer wants....yes the old r8 was rather sharp in the handling dept, so was the Gallardo!!!
70proof said:
bar the odd example, all audi 4wd cars lack feel and tend to understeer.... its a trait that will protect most drivers from coming to harm with oversteer.... so I would expect the r8 to understeer more than the huracan, as audi would rather be associated with understeer than widow maker oversteer.... its not just the software, the tyres are audi or lambo spec, the latter will be more grippy and wear more, Pirelli alters the compounds a bit according to what the manufacturer wants....
yes the old r8 was rather sharp in the handling dept, so was the Gallardo!!!
The old r8 in v10 guise loves oversteer. The antithesis of 4wd Audis. yes the old r8 was rather sharp in the handling dept, so was the Gallardo!!!
Alpinestars said:
70proof said:
bar the odd example, all audi 4wd cars lack feel and tend to understeer....
yes the old r8 was rather sharp in the handling dept, so was the Gallardo!!!
The old r8 in v10 guise loves oversteer. The antithesis of 4wd Audis. yes the old r8 was rather sharp in the handling dept, so was the Gallardo!!!
GRBF430F1 said:
R8 is a nice Audi mate and will depreciate for fun.
As good a car as it may be it does not cut it in the supercar stakes.
Lambo definitely worth £50k and more and probably will cost less to run overall if purchased right from outset
What, you mean one of those currently sitting in stock at the mo? As good a car as it may be it does not cut it in the supercar stakes.
Lambo definitely worth £50k and more and probably will cost less to run overall if purchased right from outset
garyhun said:
s2000db said:
What, you mean one of those currently sitting in stock at the mo?
They don't have the love like the Gallardo. Where do people see prices in a year or two due to this?So I've done 5-600 miles in the car now and quite frankly I'm blown away by it. When Ferrari bought the 458 gearbox into production I thought it couldn't be bettered but I'm amazed to report the Huracan gearbox is even better in my opinion. The car to me is the best looking supercar at the minute, ok not as extreme as the Aventador but not far off it, and the cockpit is a great place to be, you know you're in something special. To be honest if it wasn't for the bloody awful gearbox in the Aventador I probably would have stayed with it but no regrets.
Where will values go, I'm told by the network that they appreciate there was oversupply initially, can't remember the numbers but I think 160 cars were imported first year . That simply was too many, a good few were snapped up by speculators and put back on the market a few months later therefore creating a glut. I'm told this year the UK is allocated 40 cars if that's true then I see the supply drying up and values firming up.
I remember a similar scenario with the 996 GT3's, nobody wanted them they were slated from the outset and I bought one, role forward 5 years or so and the Gt3 I bought back then recently sold for what I paid for it back then (the very same car) So go figure, the specialist car market is a strange place.
I'd guess you'll see the Huracan down to 175k ish by the end of this year for cars with a few miles on them, I can see lots of lads selling the hyped 991 GT3's and getting into a Lambo for the same money ish!
Who knows!
Thanks for the detailed reply, sone.
The most I've ever spent on a car is £65K on a used Audi R8 which I sold 18 months after I got it for a total loss of around £2k.
I've been contemplating a 991 at around £90k and a Mercedes AMG GT which would run out to around £120 with options, but on a good day when I'm feeling in one of those moods when you feel that life really is too short (2014 saw the loss of some friends and family at too young an age), I am seriously tempted by something like a Huracan.
My issue is not the initial outlay but what the car might lose over 12-24 month as I doubt I'd keep it any longer. I really should not be even thinking of something like a Huracan (it really is outside of my purchasing comfort zone), but as long as it did not lose terrible amounts over the next few years, it would certainly be an option and may even make more sense, financially as well as from every other angle, than the other cars I'm contemplating. Not sure if that makes sense at all!
The most I've ever spent on a car is £65K on a used Audi R8 which I sold 18 months after I got it for a total loss of around £2k.
I've been contemplating a 991 at around £90k and a Mercedes AMG GT which would run out to around £120 with options, but on a good day when I'm feeling in one of those moods when you feel that life really is too short (2014 saw the loss of some friends and family at too young an age), I am seriously tempted by something like a Huracan.
My issue is not the initial outlay but what the car might lose over 12-24 month as I doubt I'd keep it any longer. I really should not be even thinking of something like a Huracan (it really is outside of my purchasing comfort zone), but as long as it did not lose terrible amounts over the next few years, it would certainly be an option and may even make more sense, financially as well as from every other angle, than the other cars I'm contemplating. Not sure if that makes sense at all!
garyhun said:
Thanks for the detailed reply, sone.
The most I've ever spent on a car is £65K on a used Audi R8 which I sold 18 months after I got it for a total loss of around £2k.
I've been contemplating a 991 at around £90k and a Mercedes AMG GT which would run out to around £120 with options, but on a good day when I'm feeling in one of those moods when you feel that life really is too short (2014 saw the loss of some friends and family at too young an age), I am seriously tempted by something like a Huracan.
My issue is not the initial outlay but what the car might lose over 12-24 month as I doubt I'd keep it any longer. I really should not be even thinking of something like a Huracan (it really is outside of my purchasing comfort zone), but as long as it did not lose terrible amounts over the next few years, it would certainly be an option and may even make more sense, financially as well as from every other angle, than the other cars I'm contemplating. Not sure if that makes sense at all!
Absolute sense!The most I've ever spent on a car is £65K on a used Audi R8 which I sold 18 months after I got it for a total loss of around £2k.
I've been contemplating a 991 at around £90k and a Mercedes AMG GT which would run out to around £120 with options, but on a good day when I'm feeling in one of those moods when you feel that life really is too short (2014 saw the loss of some friends and family at too young an age), I am seriously tempted by something like a Huracan.
My issue is not the initial outlay but what the car might lose over 12-24 month as I doubt I'd keep it any longer. I really should not be even thinking of something like a Huracan (it really is outside of my purchasing comfort zone), but as long as it did not lose terrible amounts over the next few years, it would certainly be an option and may even make more sense, financially as well as from every other angle, than the other cars I'm contemplating. Not sure if that makes sense at all!
I focus not on initial layout but what a car will cost me to own over say 12 months. I've bought new this time which is very unusual for me so I expect to take a kicking in 12 months time, if I choose to sell I reckon 30k plus loss. If I part ex against another Lambo I'd expect it to be considerably less. Ironically after 2 years I don't think it'd a whole lot more say 35-40.
That said I reckon to lose around a grand a month on any car I buy that's compounded by new car purchase but you pays your money and all that.
With you definitely on the life's too short bit as well, If you can afford it do it!.
garyhun said:
Thanks for the detailed reply, sone.
The most I've ever spent on a car is £65K on a used Audi R8 which I sold 18 months after I got it for a total loss of around £2k.
I've been contemplating a 991 at around £90k and a Mercedes AMG GT which would run out to around £120 with options, but on a good day when I'm feeling in one of those moods when you feel that life really is too short (2014 saw the loss of some friends and family at too young an age), I am seriously tempted by something like a Huracan.
My issue is not the initial outlay but what the car might lose over 12-24 month as I doubt I'd keep it any longer. I really should not be even thinking of something like a Huracan (it really is outside of my purchasing comfort zone), but as long as it did not lose terrible amounts over the next few years, it would certainly be an option and may even make more sense, financially as well as from every other angle, than the other cars I'm contemplating. Not sure if that makes sense at all!
Gary ? I was in a similar situation to you when I bought my LP, totally out of my comfort zone, I recon you "could" potentially lose 50k although unlikely, however there is nothing really between it and a late LP.The most I've ever spent on a car is £65K on a used Audi R8 which I sold 18 months after I got it for a total loss of around £2k.
I've been contemplating a 991 at around £90k and a Mercedes AMG GT which would run out to around £120 with options, but on a good day when I'm feeling in one of those moods when you feel that life really is too short (2014 saw the loss of some friends and family at too young an age), I am seriously tempted by something like a Huracan.
My issue is not the initial outlay but what the car might lose over 12-24 month as I doubt I'd keep it any longer. I really should not be even thinking of something like a Huracan (it really is outside of my purchasing comfort zone), but as long as it did not lose terrible amounts over the next few years, it would certainly be an option and may even make more sense, financially as well as from every other angle, than the other cars I'm contemplating. Not sure if that makes sense at all!
I bought the LP and with the prices non LP cars are trading at even over winter the underlying price support means I dont think an LP bought the right way can possibly lose much at all if anything.
If you have to have new then your a bit stuck but a low mile LP has to be worth considering. IMO
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