used Maseratin GranTurismo - depreciation
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Considering buying used Maser GT - 40/45k should get me hopefully leggy 4.7S or low mileage 4.2. To be honest I'm not that fixed on 4.7 as I'm sure 4.2 would be plenty quick for me.
But my question is - realistically what people think may be rock bottom price for these cars in couple of years time? I'm prepared for it to depreciate but I wouldn't want to lose 25k in 3/4 years.
My personal thinking is that they really wouldn't drop below 35/40 considering second hand prices of cars like R8 or older Ferraris.
any thoughts on the subject?
But my question is - realistically what people think may be rock bottom price for these cars in couple of years time? I'm prepared for it to depreciate but I wouldn't want to lose 25k in 3/4 years.
My personal thinking is that they really wouldn't drop below 35/40 considering second hand prices of cars like R8 or older Ferraris.
any thoughts on the subject?
Not my area of expertise at all but a quick look suggests your looking at a 2009/10 car, as a guide I would say look at 2005 car which I think im right in saying would be a gransport (last of the 4200's ?) again they appear to be 20-25k ish.
whilst I appreciate before you all start shouting a GT is a far better car and totally different, if you paid £40k today in 4 years 25k wouldnt be a million miles away would it ?
Also without sounding like an ar$e, dont use old ferrari prices as a guide, we are currently going through a situation where these cars have increased at a crazy rate for almost anything over the past 2-3 years, the masa is a cracking car but its a bit run of the mill to be compared to ferrari prices, audi R8 probably a better gauge.
also depends on how you buy and sell, if privately the cost is different to a dealer, you could probably kiss goodbye to best part of 10k as you drive off the forecourt if you asked him for a bid next day on the car.
On a positive they are one of the best sounding cars around.
whilst I appreciate before you all start shouting a GT is a far better car and totally different, if you paid £40k today in 4 years 25k wouldnt be a million miles away would it ?
Also without sounding like an ar$e, dont use old ferrari prices as a guide, we are currently going through a situation where these cars have increased at a crazy rate for almost anything over the past 2-3 years, the masa is a cracking car but its a bit run of the mill to be compared to ferrari prices, audi R8 probably a better gauge.
also depends on how you buy and sell, if privately the cost is different to a dealer, you could probably kiss goodbye to best part of 10k as you drive off the forecourt if you asked him for a bid next day on the car.
On a positive they are one of the best sounding cars around.
Don't try and compare to different marques, there is no logic. A Bentley GT might be a more relevant comparison.
I can see 4.2s bottoming out around £25-30k, maybe £30-35k for the 4.7 eventually. It is one of those situations where you assume the price will be underpinned by the previous model (like some people did with the 360 and the 355!) but you are comparing apples and pears.
The GT/GTS is a completely different car to the 4200 or Gransport, the former of which seemed to have moved up about £5k over the last 2-3 years for the equivalent (but older) car but dropped away again the last few months. The GS has pretty much remained the same price.
The Hamilton Grey 4.7 MC shift is probably not going to lose you a packet, but any "non classic" £40k car will probably from a good third over 3 years. The 4.2 are largely condsidered a bit underpowered for the size, I was certainly underwhelmed by one, which will mean they drop more than the 4.7
Also consider which gearbox you want - they are very different options. Don't focus too much on mileage - these things are not Ferraris, their owners aren't as precious about something that has actually been used, and they behave a lot better for it.
I can see 4.2s bottoming out around £25-30k, maybe £30-35k for the 4.7 eventually. It is one of those situations where you assume the price will be underpinned by the previous model (like some people did with the 360 and the 355!) but you are comparing apples and pears.
The GT/GTS is a completely different car to the 4200 or Gransport, the former of which seemed to have moved up about £5k over the last 2-3 years for the equivalent (but older) car but dropped away again the last few months. The GS has pretty much remained the same price.
The Hamilton Grey 4.7 MC shift is probably not going to lose you a packet, but any "non classic" £40k car will probably from a good third over 3 years. The 4.2 are largely condsidered a bit underpowered for the size, I was certainly underwhelmed by one, which will mean they drop more than the 4.7
Also consider which gearbox you want - they are very different options. Don't focus too much on mileage - these things are not Ferraris, their owners aren't as precious about something that has actually been used, and they behave a lot better for it.
TISPKJ said:
From my limited knowledge the MCshift thingy is the one to have.
4.2 auto looks like it will follow the route of the previous model.
Completely disagree on the first point. OP, you need to drive both gearbox options on these cars and then decide. If you like SMG/R Tronic then you may want the MC, otherwise the auto is a better bet. Bear in mind that the 4.7 auto allows manual control but the 4.2 still (strangely) kicks down in manual.4.2 auto looks like it will follow the route of the previous model.
As for values, 4.2 autos have been going up of late - ADG had an early model up for c£36k with over 40k miles and it was sold in days. That car would have been £4k cheaper a year ago.
Having drive the 4.2 and owning a 4.7 I can tell you there is a world of difference in the way they perform, not just the raw figures. The 4.2 can be made to go quickly, it just all happens at the top end as there is a very obvious deficit of torque low down the rev range which makes day to day driving a more frustrating experience than it should be. I also found the auto gearbox to be incredibly annoying as it would often drop two gears when going for an overtake on the motorway, to accompanying scream from the engine and scream from the Mrs! That is in manual mode when you should have complete control, but don't.
When wound up on decent A roads the 4.2 can move at a very impressive rate of knots but these are heavy cars and the 4.2 simply doesn't have the torque to overcome this in most driving situations. The 4.7 is a completely different car and addresses the lack of torque but also adds a much better soundtrack with simply one of the greatest exhaust systems of all time. The MC-Shift allows you to open the values at all revs should you choose, the auto only allows from above 3000rpm or thereabouts. You really should try the MC-Shift car, the box is very very impressive once you get the hang of it and again, has a very different character to the auto.
As for depreciation, prices have stayed very firm over the last 12-18 months and I can't see that changing any time soon given that production is about to or already has ceased. In 4-5 years time I would reckon that a car currently retailing for £45 would probably cost between £32-37k depending on what the market does. Do remember though that a dealer bid will typically be about £10k lower than this!
My advice is to go drive a few and then just do it, they are fantastic cars to own and life really is too short to worry too much about depreciation!
When wound up on decent A roads the 4.2 can move at a very impressive rate of knots but these are heavy cars and the 4.2 simply doesn't have the torque to overcome this in most driving situations. The 4.7 is a completely different car and addresses the lack of torque but also adds a much better soundtrack with simply one of the greatest exhaust systems of all time. The MC-Shift allows you to open the values at all revs should you choose, the auto only allows from above 3000rpm or thereabouts. You really should try the MC-Shift car, the box is very very impressive once you get the hang of it and again, has a very different character to the auto.
As for depreciation, prices have stayed very firm over the last 12-18 months and I can't see that changing any time soon given that production is about to or already has ceased. In 4-5 years time I would reckon that a car currently retailing for £45 would probably cost between £32-37k depending on what the market does. Do remember though that a dealer bid will typically be about £10k lower than this!
My advice is to go drive a few and then just do it, they are fantastic cars to own and life really is too short to worry too much about depreciation!
no used stock at all and one sitting in the showroom with price sticker £97k. No demonstrators as far as I know unless gentleman I was speaking to concluded that I wouldn't be able to afford one... I've asked for a test drive to be arranged when a car will be available and he took my details...
s4tronic said:
cheers for the advice - problem in Scotland is that there's none in Edinburgh for sale that I could test drive let alone compare MCshift to regular auto.
A similar situation to Devon - not a lot South of Bristol except what comes through Carrs.You have Graypaul, who are a big chain and will move stock between branches for a serious buyer, and you'll probably end up taking it there for service anyway so they'll be happy ho help if they can.
Otherwise think of it this way - you're spending £40k+ on a car. Have a long weekend away somewhere and book in to test several cars. I gather The Midlands is lovely at this time of year.
Pooh said:
I have a 4.7 S MC shift and live near Perth, if you fancy a passenger run in it and a chat about the options then I am happy to take you out in it, drop me a PM if you are interested.
Thanks for the kind offer, I will keep that in mind and get in touch when I will plan to be in the area.Gassing Station | Supercar General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff