Dodge does it again!

[fatboy18]

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/dodge-viper-acr-dest...

[NickOrangeCars]

fatboy18 said:

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/dodge-viper-acr-dest...

I don't trust any American tests - I spend a lot of time in the US and every car magazine I read has all the US cars beating European cars, which is frankly laughable.

I am sure this Dodge had full race preparation, and if it's suspension was specifically setup, aero played with, engine tuned, slick tyres etc, then of course it would break records.

To say a N/A 650bhp i car can beat two hybrids with 900BHP is just fanciful.

[fatboy18]

Right ho

Edited by fatboy18 on Saturday 7th November 17:55

[fatboy18]

Track braking graphs 918 and P1
http://wot.motortrend.com/wrecking_the_production_...

[boxerTen]

fatboy18 said:

Track braking graphs 918 and P1
http://wot.motortrend.com/wrecking_the_production_...

Would be interesting to know how much downforce its developing - being able to pull so much lateral acceleration suggests its quite a bit.

[fatboy18]

boxerTen said:

fatboy18 said:

Track braking graphs 918 and P1
http://wot.motortrend.com/wrecking_the_production_...

Would be interesting to know how much downforce its developing - being able to pull so much lateral acceleration suggests its quite a bit.

We were talking about that here
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[andrew]

what a silly rear wing

[fatboy18]

andrew said:

what a silly rear wing

Not if your at a Pistonheads meet, that would be perfect for placing morning coffees and cup cakes on

[gt500nick]

NickOrangeCars said:

fatboy18 said:

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/dodge-viper-acr-dest...

I don't trust any American tests - I spend a lot of time in the US and every car magazine I read has all the US cars beating European cars, which is frankly laughable.

I am sure this Dodge had full race preparation, and if it's suspension was specifically setup, aero played with, engine tuned, slick tyres etc, then of course it would break records.

To say a N/A 650bhp i car can beat two hybrids with 900BHP is just fanciful.

And what do you think Porsche and mclaren do?

The viper is self adjustable wing suspension and front splitter, the tyres are road legal. It's simple to setup for track rather than road as it's just a few turns on the adjustable suspension and undo and redo the wing into a more down facing position and adjust tyre pressure. what do you think they did with their 918 and p1?

[fatboy18]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1n-KrdFUUY&ap...

[NickOrangeCars]

gt500nick said:

And what do you think Porsche and mclaren do?

The viper is self adjustable wing suspension and front splitter, the tyres are road legal. It's simple to setup for track rather than road as it's just a few turns on the adjustable suspension and undo and redo the wing into a more down facing position and adjust tyre pressure. what do you think they did with their 918 and p1?

The Porsche + McLaren were stock cars - there is no way McLaren went over to the US to try and set a good time in a track they don't care about. The Dodge had a huge team who were out there for pure PR purposes only trying to set lap records with huge resources behind them, in no way a fair comparison, you put a 'stock' Viper ACR up against a stock P1 and it will absolutely murder it. A 675LT would likely beat it without too much trouble as well.

[gt500nick]

NickOrangeCars said:

gt500nick said:

And what do you think Porsche and mclaren do?

The viper is self adjustable wing suspension and front splitter, the tyres are road legal. It's simple to setup for track rather than road as it's just a few turns on the adjustable suspension and undo and redo the wing into a more down facing position and adjust tyre pressure. what do you think they did with their 918 and p1?

The Porsche + McLaren were stock cars - there is no way McLaren went over to the US to try and set a good time in a track they don't care about. The Dodge had a huge team who were out there for pure PR purposes only trying to set lap records with huge resources behind them, in no way a fair comparison, you put a 'stock' Viper ACR up against a stock P1 and it will absolutely murder it. A 675LT would likely beat it without too much trouble as well.

Actually McLaren sent a crew over with serious F1 experience to setup that P1 for the owner. Porsche sent the car and a couple members of the LeMans team to setup the 918. So I'd say it was a fair comparison, don't discount the acr just because you think the 918 and p1 are far superior cars, don't forget the previous acr was the fastest car around the many tracks.

[fatboy18]

Yea but American cars are not Supercars and Don't go round corners

[ViperDave]

gt500nick said:

Actually McLaren sent a crew over with serious F1 experience to setup that P1 for the owner. Porsche sent the car and a couple members of the LeMans team to setup the 918. So I'd say it was a fair comparison, don't discount the acr just because you think the 918 and p1 are far superior cars, don't forget the previous acr was the fastest car around the many tracks.

And the Gen4 ACR that set the ring time was off the forecourt of viperexchange, not some factory special, and dodge are not exactly renowned at the moment for putting loads of money into their marketing and racing departments. Chances are these records are more a group of enthusiastic factory workers rather than a huge budget operation, For sure if there was money they would have been to the ring rather than 13 local tracks

[boxerTen]

The Viper was running these: Kumho Ecsta V720. How do they compare against the boots on 918 and P1?

[Hoofy]

fatboy18 said:

andrew said:

what a silly rear wing

Not if your at a Pistonheads meet, that would be perfect for placing morning coffees and cup cakes on

[fatboy18]

NickOrangeCars said:

gt500nick said:

And what do you think Porsche and mclaren do?

The viper is self adjustable wing suspension and front splitter, the tyres are road legal. It's simple to setup for track rather than road as it's just a few turns on the adjustable suspension and undo and redo the wing into a more down facing position and adjust tyre pressure. what do you think they did with their 918 and p1?

The Porsche + McLaren were stock cars - there is no way McLaren went over to the US to try and set a good time in a track they don't care about. The Dodge had a huge team who were out there for pure PR purposes only trying to set lap records with huge resources behind them, in no way a fair comparison, you put a 'stock' Viper ACR up against a stock P1 and it will absolutely murder it. A 675LT would likely beat it without too much trouble as well.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1100759_2016-dodge-viper-acr-sets-13-lap-records-outmuscles-p1-918-spyder-video Still not convinced?

[ViperDave]

Hoofy said:

fatboy18 said:

andrew said:

what a silly rear wing

Not if your at a Pistonheads meet, that would be perfect for placing morning coffees and cup cakes on

[img]http://i.imgur.com/AMHr BYk.jpg[/img]

The Viper one is quite good for getting a better view as well






NB please don't stand on my wing if you see my car parked somewhere!

Edited by ViperDave on Tuesday 10th November 14:18

[Hoofy]

ViperDave said:

The Viper one is quite good for getting a better view as well






NB please don't stand on my wing if you see my car parked somewhere!

Edited by ViperDave on Tuesday 10th November 14:18

I suppose that logically it's fine as the amount of downforce that is producing is probably greater than one human.

I will avoid standing on your wing but I can't guarantee it won't be covered in drool.

[roygarth]

OK, first off I would never be seen dead in one. Does nothing for me at all.

But that is one hell of an achievement..quite extraordinary bearing in mind the relative costs of it and the P1 & 918.