Gallardo LP560 ownership costs

[SlartiF430]

Are they really expensive to keep? My F430 cost as much as a BMW M3 and my Astons were not far off either. I've always believed that Gallardos (particularly later LP560s) were rock solid with major issues ironed out - german engineering et al. Thinking of getting one but have zero Lambo experience. Would really appreciate your thoughts on this.

[br d]

Mine was pretty comparable to my previous 430, about 1400 quid for a service I think. Main dealer was good with warranty stuff as well, bending a little to include bits and bobs that they probably could have argued over. They are very solid, certainly better in the electrics department than the 430.

[TISPKJ]

I never kept mine long enough to service but I saw nothing in my 6 months of use that would suggest they are nothing short of bombproof german engineering.
they certainly dont need ball joints like a 430 chews through at £500 a corner plus labour, or manifolds ££££.

Buy the McLaren
Getting painted requires an offical paint shop yes bit of a pain.
Factory Warranty can be put on Mcl, you cant on the LP once out of the factory period.

[xjay1337]

I don't own a supercar but can I ask, why on earth would you pay £1500 for a service
I'm assuming this is spark plugs, oil filter, air filter, oil change.
When you can do that at home yourself.
Would you lose £1500 of value each time it was serviced assuming you fit genuine parts?

Maybe every 2 or 3 services (I'm assuming at 5 or 10k intervals here) then you can take it to the dealer for an inspection?

Or is that really bad when you own a supercar?

[Juber]

xjay1337 said:

I don't own a supercar but can I ask, why on earth would you pay £1500 for a service
I'm assuming this is spark plugs, oil filter, air filter, oil change.
When you can do that at home yourself.
Would you lose £1500 of value each time it was serviced assuming you fit genuine parts?

Maybe every 2 or 3 services (I'm assuming at 5 or 10k intervals here) then you can take it to the dealer for an inspection?

Or is that really bad when you own a supercar?

Would you buy a Ferrari/McLaren/Porsche/Lamborghini/etc if the owner serviced it on his/her driveway? No, you wouldn't would be my guess. If you were selling an LP560 and put on the description you done the previous services to save on the costs, I would start questioning your workmanship on the servicing, what else have you save costs on? You just wont be able to sell it on.

[xjay1337]

I would personally service my own supercar, I enjoy spannering about and tinkering.
The way I look at it, you don't need to be a genius to change oil, air filters, brake discs/pads etc.
I would want it to be looked at from time to time by a specialist (whether that's a main dealer or an independant) but I wouldn't run a mile if an enthusiast owner with a decent set of tools had been doing some interim services himself.

£1500 is a lot even if you can afford a £100k car.

[supersport]

Those home services would end up costing you way more than £1500 a time when you came to sell.

For some Porsches you can get away with it, but many if not most wouldn't touch a proper supercar that had been home serviced.

[xjay1337]

Fair shout, I guess some peoples views are that dealers are the only ones capable of looking after them.

I guess it's a lot of money to invest and any hope of a warranty would rely on a full dealer history.

[Juber]

xjay1337 said:

I would personally service my own supercar, I enjoy spannering about and tinkering.
The way I look at it, you don't need to be a genius to change oil, air filters, brake discs/pads etc.
I would want it to be looked at from time to time by a specialist (whether that's a main dealer or an independant) but I wouldn't run a mile if an enthusiast owner with a decent set of tools had been doing some interim services himself.

£1500 is a lot even if you can afford a £100k car.

I agree there mate, #1500 is silly to service a car however, with anything you would budget the total cost of ownership over X years you anticipate on keeping it against your savings/income/finance (Tax, Insurance, Tyres, annual service, buffer for unexpected repairs) Maybe I'm ultra sensible?

[Ferruccio]

Juber said:

xjay1337 said:

I would personally service my own supercar, I enjoy spannering about and tinkering.
The way I look at it, you don't need to be a genius to change oil, air filters, brake discs/pads etc.
I would want it to be looked at from time to time by a specialist (whether that's a main dealer or an independant) but I wouldn't run a mile if an enthusiast owner with a decent set of tools had been doing some interim services himself.

£1500 is a lot even if you can afford a £100k car.

I agree there mate, #1500 is silly to service a car however, with anything you would budget the total cost of ownership over X years you anticipate on keeping it against your savings/income/finance (Tax, Insurance, Tyres, annual service, buffer for unexpected repairs) Maybe I'm ultra sensible?

You'd never buy a Lamborghini with this kind of thinking.
Indeed the company would never have been set up in the first place............

[Kyodo]

xjay1337 said:

I don't own a supercar but can I ask, why on earth would you pay £1500 for a service...

We run a Ferrari and use very reputable indies for servicing, I simply couldn't stomach 1500pa for someone to change the oil. There's unfortunately a super car tax imposed by just about anyone who'll offer you any kind of service or parts, simply because of the badge. A sad fact but we have to accept it to a degree.
Servicing though is essential to maintain the value of a super car as everyone (me included) needs to be able to see a car has been properly looked after. This isn't to say people should be prepared to pull 'em down and bend over every time something needs to be done, but high-end cars shouldn't be skimped on.

[xjay1337]

Kyodo said:

We run a Ferrari and use very reputable indies for servicing, I simply couldn't stomach 1500pa for someone to change the oil. There's unfortunately a super car tax imposed by just about anyone who'll offer you any kind of service or parts, simply because of the badge. A sad fact but we have to accept it to a degree.
Servicing though is essential to maintain the value of a super car as everyone (me included) needs to be able to see a car has been properly looked after. This isn't to say people should be prepared to pull 'em down and bend over every time something needs to be done, but high-end cars shouldn't be skimped on.

I agree, should not be skimped on.
It's just the money some places charge you is a JOKE. I cant imagine it takes much more than 2 hours to do oil/filter service even doing cabin and intake filters.

But you can buy the oil yourself, right? Probably about £70 for 5L from Opie?
And genuine filters?
Yet you get charged £1500!
So why does it matter if the oil was changed at a LAMBORGHINI MAIN DEALER or at home on your own set of ramps?

Many people photograph / document things, with reciepts and pictures etc would that not be enough?
Or do you truly believe to do a basic service you need to be qualified?

Cambelts / clutches / complex engine & ecu bits i agree, leave it to the expensive professionals.... lol..

I can definitely appreciate on a new car but on a 5-6 year old car, outside of warranty....

[SlartiF430]

Workshops will also run through a long sequence of checks at service time. They're charging the labour for that too.

Bye a Ferrari F430 and even a 458 now will cost around 800 to service, so almost half. I don't get why lambos are so much more - maybe because they just can.

[johnwilliams77]

Juber said:

Would you buy a Ferrari/McLaren/Porsche/Lamborghini/etc if the owner serviced it on his/her driveway? No, you wouldn't would be my guess. If you were selling an LP560 and put on the description you done the previous services to save on the costs, I would start questioning your workmanship on the servicing, what else have you save costs on? You just wont be able to sell it on.

Absolutely, yes. Many of these owners take better care of their cars than main dealer 'service techs'.

[br d]

Think this is apples and oranges. If you have a 10 year old 430 or Gallardo then yes you could maybe have a crack yourself and get an indie to cover the heavy stuff.
If you've just bought a new Speciale or an Aventador however you are not going to start pricing up oil filters and digging out your toolbox, that would be insane.
Servicing is left to the main dealer, why on earth would you even consider messing about with it?
I've paid considerably more than £1500 quid to service stuff before and you just accept it, it's part of the experience and ensures the stamps are in the book. If after a year you fancy the next latest thing you aren't going to get far telling the dealer you decided to service it yourself.

[mike01606]

Probably 25% of the value is with the history.......

Yes you can buy oil from Opie but how do you know it's gone in the car?

Most enthusiast owners will do some work themselves but still maintain a proper history and as above a few missed services will kill interest come sale time.

Finally it is good to get someone who's familiar with the car to spend some time with it. Quite often they will save you a bob or two...

[xjay1337]

So you'd just buy the oil and what, pour it down the drain? Lol

br d said:

Think this is apples and oranges. If you have a 10 year old 430 or Gallardo then yes you could maybe have a crack yourself and get an indie to cover the heavy stuff.
If you've just bought a new Speciale or an Aventador however you are not going to start pricing up oil filters and digging out your toolbox, that would be insane.

That's fair enough. Pretty much how I would look at it.
Just an interesting topic I thought

[mike01606]

xjay1337 said:

So you'd just buy the oil and what, pour it down the drain? Lol

Nah.....put it in me mate's Fiesta

There are very few owner serviced cars I'd consider. There are a couple on forums I use that I'd snap up but any unknowns just why would you?

It's the price of entry I'm afraid........

[IainF]

There is a good article in the current Evo magazine on buying and running costs for the Gallardo.

[Juber]

Just take it to an independent (Supercar rooms?)

It's cost effective compared to main dealer and also has more clout when selling the car on rather than having to convince your next buyer that you're a 'part time driveway mechanic'.