Ferrari Scuderia 430 vs Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
Ferrari Scuderia 430 vs Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
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Vince Davies

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12 posts

95 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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If money was no object which one out of these two would you pick? of course it may depend on a loads of variable; lifestyle, usage, etc. But just as a supercar in which you would want, which one is the better of the two? I'm leaning towards the Gallardo.....

Just to clarify I'm talking about the first Gallardo Superleggera with 522bhp.

Ferrari Scuderia 430 :





Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera:




fluffekins

161 posts

305 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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Scud

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

164 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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Scud

red_duke

815 posts

202 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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Scud

Quickmoose

5,152 posts

144 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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Scud

GG33

1,224 posts

222 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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Scud... (unanimous so far) :-)

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

191 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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430 Scuderia for the gearbox alone. F1 Superfast II is the best gearbox I have ever driven for this type of car. Better than todays DCT's.
Cant say that about the e-gear in the Gallardo sadly

andrew

10,263 posts

213 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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superleggera ( and btw your pic's of a 570 sl ! )

MDL111

8,337 posts

198 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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The Superleggera as a manual
As that was way too expensive, the Scud over both Gens

EpsomJames

790 posts

267 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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For the two questions:

Which one I'd want - a manual gen1 Superleggera... if you could ever find one.
Which is the better driver's car - the Scud.

Yipper

5,964 posts

111 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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If it is the SL2 (in the pic) vs. 430 Scud, then the Lambo all day long.

Faster, prettier and better-sounding.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

191 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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Yipper said:
If it is the SL2 (in the pic) vs. 430 Scud, then the Lambo all day long.

Faster, prettier and better-sounding.
Sorry Yipper have to disagree from my personal experience.
People call me a McLaren fanboy and now a Lambo fanboy but on this occasion its the Ferrari IMHO.

Had both albeit 570-4 was a spyder and from a driving perspective the 430 Scuderia beats it hands down all day long, For posing the Lambo wins especially as it was a spyder.
Sadly the e-gear lets the Gallardo down and the scud sounds just as epic so again that's at least 2 out of those 3 criteria where the scud wins and in coupe form its probably a score draw in the looks stakes as well for me.
Scud looks a lot more meancing than a standard F430 whereas with the LP570-4 its not so night and day over the good looking standard model.

If it was LP560-4 versus F430 F1 I would probably just shade it to the Lambo though

Edited by RamboLambo on Monday 5th March 20:42

Gameface

16,565 posts

98 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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430 was a low point for Ferrari styling.

Lamborghini for me.

sone

4,610 posts

259 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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I’d rather a std 458 than either, I owned a scud for twelve months and was slightly underwhelmed and I couldn’t live with the early Gallardo gearbox. If it had to be one or the other I’d go scud but the 458 is better than both.

mwstewart

8,345 posts

209 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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Scud. Better drivers car.

yorksram

35 posts

152 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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I bought a 2008 Superleggera recently, but I was looking at a Ferrari 360 and 430. It's all personal preference at the end of the day but there were a few reasons why I went for the SL.

1) The build quality / fit and finish seemed a little tighter in the Lamborghini as opposed to the Ferrari - and the fact it shares parts with Audi means it's just a little cheaper to sort if anything goes titsup.

2) Styling - I like my cleaner lines and the SL in grey with the extra carbon just looks right - it doesn't scream out for attention but still turns heads. The 360 and 430 - I liked them but both had too many awkward angles - the front of the 360 looks quite dated and the rear qtr of the 430 with the intakes doesn't quite work for me.

3) It had to be the 2008 SL, with earlier issues sorted and the 5.0ltr flat plane crank makes for one of the best sounding exhaust notes - the LP moved to the 5.2ltr cross plane which didn't tick the box, becoming a little too refined and R8-esque.

4) Brand emotion - I've always looked at Lambo as being a little bit OTT, Ferrari as the discerning 'serious' mans supercar and Porsche as being ruthlessly efficient and an entry point to super fast cars, if lacking a little charisma. I thought the SL mixed a little bit of everything, still a Lambo, but with efforts made to make it more of a drivers car with germanic engineering/QC.

5) E-Gear - yeh, simple one that, treat and drive it like a manual. I'll be honest in that ultra fast DCT just feels a little boring and it may aswell cut out the driver input and be fully automatic. We call any downfalls of a car 'character' - but with the drive to perfection in cars today, I do believe it numbs the whole experience - and there's nothing quite like the shove you get in the back when on full chat with the V10.

Overall, I'd say that's the defining difference between the SL and 430 Scud, the SL is more of an event to drive, if nothing else.



Never you mind

1,507 posts

133 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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RamboLambo said:
Yipper said:
If it is the SL2 (in the pic) vs. 430 Scud, then the Lambo all day long.

Faster, prettier and better-sounding.
Sorry Yipper have to disagree from my personal experience.
People call me a McLaren fanboy and now a Lambo fanboy but on this occasion its the Ferrari IMHO.

Had both albeit 570-4 was a spyder and from a driving perspective the 430 Scuderia beats it hands down all day long, For posing the Lambo wins especially as it was a spyder.
Sadly the e-gear lets the Gallardo down and the scud sounds just as epic so again that's at least 2 out of those 3 criteria where the scud wins and in coupe form its probably a score draw in the looks stakes as well for me.
Scud looks a lot more meancing than a standard F430 whereas with the LP570-4 its not so night and day over the good looking standard model.

If it was LP560-4 versus F430 F1 I would probably just shade it to the Lambo though

Edited by RamboLambo on Monday 5th March 20:42
Don't think the E-Gear does let it down. Drive it like a manual and it's fine, stick it in corsa and it's brutal. I love it and don't know what people are moaning about it. Never had mine in Auto mode though so maybe that's the problem with it.

As for sound, I concede on that one. Drove to Malton big breakfast meet in a convoy of supercars and the scud that was with us sounded epic. Much better noise than my lambo anyway.

Looks are always subjective.

If given the choice between the 2 though, think I would take the scud but that's because I've never owned a Ferrari.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

191 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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E -gear has character for sure but for me the best thing about the Scud above the noise is the F1 Superfast II gearbox. Its quick like a DCT but with that aggressive race car change style where you feel the gear change without ripping your neck off like Corsa in the e-gear.
You have to drive one to really appreciate it.
I miss both cars - the lambo for the posing and the scud for the driving so depends what your priority is and not to mention about a £80k price gap between them which also gives a slight indication as to which is more sought after

Never you mind

1,507 posts

133 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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RamboLambo said:
E -gear has character for sure but for me the best thing about the Scud above the noise is the F1 Superfast II gearbox. Its quick like a DCT but with that aggressive race car change style where you feel the gear change without ripping your neck off like Corsa in the e-gear.
You have to drive one to really appreciate it.
I miss both cars - the lambo for the posing and the scud for the driving so depends what your priority is and not to mention about a £80k price gap between them which also gives a slight indication as to which is more sought after
The ripping your neck felling when flat shifting in Corsa is brilliant. Makes you feel like you are in a supercar which adds to the event, drama and theatre.

RE: Cost. One is a LE(?) Ferrari the other anyone could order hence the price difference. Classic Ferraris will always be worth more as they are considered blue chip investments. In other words, as long as we don't see another crash like 2009 then you can't go wrong in putting your money into one. But when it comes to the MK1 SL I think that over time, a long time, there won't be that much of a price difference. The market will realise that they are fabulous cars. Shame I missed out on one really but I am happy with the 50th Anniversary, its rarer than the MK1 SL biggrin






Edited by Never you mind on Tuesday 6th March 11:25

Its Just Adz

17,270 posts

230 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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Scud, it’s just amazing.