New NSX confused?
Discussion
Hello,
I used to own a UK Manual NSX 3.2 and current owner of a Mclaren 12c.
I am confused by the new NSX and also disappointed. The new NSX has been described as a junior Porsche 918 but the performance and economy for the technology does not seem that impressive. First of all the new car is stunning in the flesh. However I thought the new NSX would be a lot quicker. The NSX has a 3.5L Twin Turbo like the Nissan GTR but it also has electric motors but it is no faster than a GTR. My Mclaren 12C averages an amazing 22 MPG but I checked the NSX fuel economy and it is only 28MPG!
Therefore if the battery and electric motors are heavy what are the point if it is no faster than a GTR and not a lot more economical than my McLaren 12c???
Surly for price and technology it should be a step above a GTR in performance?
I used to own a UK Manual NSX 3.2 and current owner of a Mclaren 12c.
I am confused by the new NSX and also disappointed. The new NSX has been described as a junior Porsche 918 but the performance and economy for the technology does not seem that impressive. First of all the new car is stunning in the flesh. However I thought the new NSX would be a lot quicker. The NSX has a 3.5L Twin Turbo like the Nissan GTR but it also has electric motors but it is no faster than a GTR. My Mclaren 12C averages an amazing 22 MPG but I checked the NSX fuel economy and it is only 28MPG!
Therefore if the battery and electric motors are heavy what are the point if it is no faster than a GTR and not a lot more economical than my McLaren 12c???
Surly for price and technology it should be a step above a GTR in performance?
Jumpingjackflash said:
Therefore if the battery and electric motors are heavy what are the point if it is no faster than a GTR and not a lot more economical than my McLaren 12c???
Sometimes it's about more than 0-60 or quarter mile times. Take for example Autocar's assessment of the NSX:Autocar magazine said:
A super-sports car capable of 3.3sec from rest to 60mph and an 11.4sec standing quarter may not seem exceptional by current class standards, but in the NSX’s case that’s only a hint of the full story. ... what the raw performance stats and Honda’s specification sheet don’t tell you is that the torque figure isn’t so much a peak as it is an almost permanent provision of pulling power.
Flatten the accelerator pedal with the car locked in gear in manual mode and you can watch the car’s ‘Assist’ gauge rise and fall as those three electric motors ‘torque fill’ through the lower and upper reaches of the rev range ... below 3500rpm in a low gear, where many modern rivals would be girding their loins before lunging into the distance, the NSX’s instant and considerable grunt never fails to hit you hard between the eyes.
Flatten the accelerator pedal with the car locked in gear in manual mode and you can watch the car’s ‘Assist’ gauge rise and fall as those three electric motors ‘torque fill’ through the lower and upper reaches of the rev range ... below 3500rpm in a low gear, where many modern rivals would be girding their loins before lunging into the distance, the NSX’s instant and considerable grunt never fails to hit you hard between the eyes.
The original NSX was very very special. I wish I kept it. After experiencing a lot of cars the NSX could have been the perfect car for me.
The NSX has all the good things I like about my McLaren and my old 966 GT3 in one package.
I used to spend all my time on Pistonheads & Autotrader searching for cars I want to buy but now I spend all my time looking at cars I with I did not sell!
The NSX has all the good things I like about my McLaren and my old 966 GT3 in one package.
I used to spend all my time on Pistonheads & Autotrader searching for cars I want to buy but now I spend all my time looking at cars I with I did not sell!
isaldiri said:
That's an insult to the old NSX to compare it to a gt4.
I had a 1995 NSX...in 2004Loved it...however compared to the 911c2s and Boxster s that followed it..
It wasnt that fast nor handled that well (at the limit) - I know sacrilege to say - but true
Mate had a 2004 (in 2007), again good but along way from great...
I appreciate in the early to mid 90s they were close to top of the pops but then the others caught up and took over (while Honda sat still)
What would you say is the closest successor in spirit to the NSX ???
Would love a gen 2 Type R........at £100k but not the £250k now demanded for them
I had a '91 NSX manual almost exactly 20 years ago. It was a good car but I actually preferred the 348 I sold the NSX to fund. The NSX was very sensitive to tyres and pressures (mine was an early non PAS car) and there was a high speed wobble in coldish temperatures when pushing on (no traction control).
It also had by far the crummiest interior of any car I have owned, the side bolsters were badly worn at 21k miles. Stunning engine and noise though the other things didn't make me fall in love with it. The contrast with the atmosphere of the Ferrari, especially the open gate after the Civic gearknob of the NSX meant I was very happy with my change although it went against all accepted wisdom at the time.
It also had by far the crummiest interior of any car I have owned, the side bolsters were badly worn at 21k miles. Stunning engine and noise though the other things didn't make me fall in love with it. The contrast with the atmosphere of the Ferrari, especially the open gate after the Civic gearknob of the NSX meant I was very happy with my change although it went against all accepted wisdom at the time.
Wilmslowboy said:
I had a 1995 NSX...in 2004
Loved it...however compared to the 911c2s and Boxster s that followed it..
It wasnt that fast nor handled that well (at the limit) - I know sacrilege to say - but true
Mate had a 2004 (in 2007), again good but along way from great...
I appreciate in the early to mid 90s they were close to top of the pops but then the others caught up and took over (while Honda sat still)
What would you say is the closest successor in spirit to the NSX ???
Would love a gen 2 Type R........at £100k but not the £250k now demanded for them
I agree (and don't think it's a surprise) that the NSX by the early 2000s had definitely lost it's ability to win at top trumps compared to other cars. However, very few people I know who have driven a decent amount in the NSX would I think agree with you that it didn't handle well though. Loved it...however compared to the 911c2s and Boxster s that followed it..
It wasnt that fast nor handled that well (at the limit) - I know sacrilege to say - but true
Mate had a 2004 (in 2007), again good but along way from great...
I appreciate in the early to mid 90s they were close to top of the pops but then the others caught up and took over (while Honda sat still)
What would you say is the closest successor in spirit to the NSX ???
Would love a gen 2 Type R........at £100k but not the £250k now demanded for them
Have to say, I couldn't easily name you a car I thought was the successor in spirit to the NSX but most assuredly the gt4 is not that car.
isaldiri said:
....... very few people I know who have driven a decent amount in the NSX would I think agree with you that it didn't handle well though .
Have to say, I couldn't easily name you a car I thought was the successor in spirit to the NSX but most assuredly the gt4 is not that car.
I did say at the limit (mine caught me out a few times, particularly in the wet)Have to say, I couldn't easily name you a car I thought was the successor in spirit to the NSX but most assuredly the gt4 is not that car.
Back to the current gen, there was a local in one, on the IOM when we were over there in the summer, it definitely didnt lack performance (one way mountain road speeds of 160mph+)
But just didnt come across as special enough, and at close to 1 3/4 tonnes, too heavy,
I'd struggle to buy one over a R8+, AMGT R, 911 Turbos
Wonder what trade bids on used ones are ????
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