3200 Assetto Corsa
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I'm at the early stages of looking at the Maser 3200. What are your opinions of the Assetto Corsa? Is it worth the extra over a standard 3200? and what is a 3200 GTA?
I've seen a few Assetto Corsa's for sale over the last few months but they're all silver. I'm looking for a black one...has anyone ever seen a black one or got any pics?
I've seen a few Assetto Corsa's for sale over the last few months but they're all silver. I'm looking for a black one...has anyone ever seen a black one or got any pics?
Hi there,
depends what you are looking for really, the ac basically gets lower stiffer suspension, drilled pedals, 16 automatic suspension settings, magnesium look wheels. It is slightly more track oriented.
Come resale time an ac will probably be slightly more desirable than a standard 3200. I'm never sure about the wheels, they always just look a bit dirty to me.
I'm sure I have seen a black one.
3200GTA is simply an auto.
Good luck, plenty of buying advice here, do a search. cheers
depends what you are looking for really, the ac basically gets lower stiffer suspension, drilled pedals, 16 automatic suspension settings, magnesium look wheels. It is slightly more track oriented.
Come resale time an ac will probably be slightly more desirable than a standard 3200. I'm never sure about the wheels, they always just look a bit dirty to me.
I'm sure I have seen a black one.
3200GTA is simply an auto.
Good luck, plenty of buying advice here, do a search. cheers
Thanks for your reply.
What do you 3200 owners think to this review:
"I had two while the 355 was in for its weekly rebuild.
Absolutely amazing engine - "proper" V8 rumble, but twin-turbo'd!!!
rest of the car is a disappointment, interior is posh, but a bit OTT. Handling is too sloppy for a sports car, but too hard for a cruiser. Grip is phenomenal, but the steering is dull, so you can't feel it.
Fly-by-wire throttle is a disaster - unbelievably sensitive - driving in socks is the only way of getting half-decent control. Acceptable for 100mph cruising, but round town its a nightmare. In the wet, its just dangerous.
I managed 11mpg on one run - made the 355 look frugal.
depreciation is tragic - will be a 10k car in 5 years.
Your M3 would run rings round it in every sense. In fact, a modestly tweaked 20Vt would embarass it on all but dead straight autobahns (saw 175 in the one I had).
Apparently there is a throttle fix for the 3200GT, which makes it much easier to live with. If you spent a few quid (as in four figures) you could probably sort the handling too"
>> Edited by Grebbo on Friday 24th June 21:51
What do you 3200 owners think to this review:
"I had two while the 355 was in for its weekly rebuild.
Absolutely amazing engine - "proper" V8 rumble, but twin-turbo'd!!!
rest of the car is a disappointment, interior is posh, but a bit OTT. Handling is too sloppy for a sports car, but too hard for a cruiser. Grip is phenomenal, but the steering is dull, so you can't feel it.
Fly-by-wire throttle is a disaster - unbelievably sensitive - driving in socks is the only way of getting half-decent control. Acceptable for 100mph cruising, but round town its a nightmare. In the wet, its just dangerous.
I managed 11mpg on one run - made the 355 look frugal.
depreciation is tragic - will be a 10k car in 5 years.
Your M3 would run rings round it in every sense. In fact, a modestly tweaked 20Vt would embarass it on all but dead straight autobahns (saw 175 in the one I had).
Apparently there is a throttle fix for the 3200GT, which makes it much easier to live with. If you spent a few quid (as in four figures) you could probably sort the handling too"
>> Edited by Grebbo on Friday 24th June 21:51
Grebbo said:
Fly-by-wire throttle is a disaster - unbelievably sensitive - driving in socks is the only way of getting half-decent control.
>> Edited by Grebbo on Friday 24th June 21:51
Nope just takes some getting used to - as in a 2+ weeks of driving - in fact now I am shocked at the response of most other cars :/
it isn't the fastest car round the track, nor the most reliable, nor the cheapest. But I would buy one again without a doubt. In fact once I've chopped mine in for a 4200 spyder i can see myself picking one up again in a couple of years as a "first car" with a cobra rep as a second car - and that would be over a 4200!
Dave
Dave
Grebbo said:
Thanks for your reply.
What do you 3200 owners think to this review:
"I had two while the 355 was in for its weekly rebuild.
well not a great start - if the 35 the person owns is that unreliable I'd question the owners care and attention!!!
Grebbo said:
Absolutely amazing engine - "proper" V8 rumble, but twin-turbo'd!!!
absolutely - but fit a sports exhaust to out runble a ford GT
Grebbo said:
rest of the car is a disappointment, interior is posh, but a bit OTT.
hmm interior sold it to me over a 911 or a merc - it's beautifully done. Either that or this guy is right and I'm a bling merchant....
Grebbo said:
Handling is too sloppy for a sports car, but too hard for a cruiser. Grip is phenomenal, but the steering is dull, so you can't feel it.
steering isn't dull - it's pretty responsive - ok it's no elises ion terms of feedback but its a controllable car unless you're being daft...
Grebbo said:
Fly-by-wire throttle is a disaster - unbelievably sensitive - driving in socks is the only way of getting half-decent control. Acceptable for 100mph cruising, but round town its a nightmare. In the wet, its just dangerous.
ok on a 98 demo car this was true - any later car will ahe had software revisions and they're easy to handle. And like David says it makes everythig else I drive seem sluggish...
Grebbo said:
I managed 11mpg on one run - made the 355 look frugal.
Easily done - in a 355 or a Maserati. IF you cane the nuts off it the mpg will be poor. Who gives a sh*t! If you want mpg go buy a Prius!!!
Grebbo said:
depreciation is tragic - will be a 10k car in 5 years.
Really dont think thats true. Some will be 10k cars - these will be the poor unloved ones to avoid. In the same way that anything under 20k is probably a bad idea at the moment...
Grebbo said:
Your M3 would run rings round it in every sense. In fact, a modestly tweaked 20Vt would embarass it on all but dead straight autobahns (saw 175 in the one I had).
An M3 would kick its butt on track - but in a straight line you will leavce the M3 behind, and I know which car I'd rather be in on the autobahn!!!
Grebbo said:
Apparently there is a throttle fix for the 3200GT, which makes it much easier to live with. If you spent a few quid (as in four figures) you could probably sort the handling too"
Everything you do on a Maserati costs 4 figures! The Gransport is proof that the chassis is a good one - and if you really want to turn it into a track car then by all means get a set of stiffer springs, fit carbon race seats and I'm sure it would scare a lot of things!
>> Edited by Grebbo on Friday 24th June 21:51[/quote]
As with all things it's horses for courses. It's not a 911 GT3 rival in any sense, and it's probably less practical than a bimmer M3. If you want a good looking individual car with an engine that is to die for and an interior that shames many an exotic then it's the car for you
Grebbo said:
Thanks for your reply.
What do you 3200 owners think to this review:
"I had two while the 355 was in for its weekly rebuild.
Absolutely amazing engine - "proper" V8 rumble, but twin-turbo'd!!!
rest of the car is a disappointment, interior is posh, but a bit OTT. Handling is too sloppy for a sports car, but too hard for a cruiser. Grip is phenomenal, but the steering is dull, so you can't feel it.
Fly-by-wire throttle is a disaster - unbelievably sensitive - driving in socks is the only way of getting half-decent control. Acceptable for 100mph cruising, but round town its a nightmare. In the wet, its just dangerous.
I managed 11mpg on one run - made the 355 look frugal.
depreciation is tragic - will be a 10k car in 5 years.
Your M3 would run rings round it in every sense. In fact, a modestly tweaked 20Vt would embarass it on all but dead straight autobahns (saw 175 in the one I had).
Apparently there is a throttle fix for the 3200GT, which makes it much easier to live with. If you spent a few quid (as in four figures) you could probably sort the handling too"
>> Edited by Grebbo on Friday 24th June 21:51
Some fair comments here, but on the whole mostly wrong IMO. Like all hand built cars there are some crap cars and some great cars out there.
I had an AC for 3 and a half years and still miss it. It will eat an M3 for breakfast in a straight and whilst there is no finesse about its cornering abilities, it is pretty damn good for such a heavy GT car. However, I know an M3 (coupe, not soft top) will out corner it.
Depends what you want out of a car. There is only one true hybrid car (GT and sports car) out there - it begins with a P and is built in Stuttgart.
However, if you want a beautifully crafted GT car, there is not much that will beat the Maser especially at current used prices.
check out my AC in Nero (aka black) metallic, more difficult to keep clean than others (silver/red) but worth the effort... I guess best to go for manual over auto, the gear box is shared with BMs I think. As for tricky/sensitive throttle, it really is a case of getting used to it, everything else seems like a load of flapping around now, and if you plan to keep the car (as I do) it keeps the learning curve for a long time. Every journey is special, and seems like a bargain now that deprec. has done the hard work for you. Good luck and let us know how you get on.... ta Mark
Wow a black AC! Gorgeous! Have you got any more pics???
The above review wasn't meant to offend anyone. Of course you're going to defend your cars, and rightly so. I guess I'll have to drive one ASAP to see what I think to it.
P.S - The weekly rebuild comment about his 355 was a joke. He's a true enthusiast so would have been looked after v. well.
The above review wasn't meant to offend anyone. Of course you're going to defend your cars, and rightly so. I guess I'll have to drive one ASAP to see what I think to it.
P.S - The weekly rebuild comment about his 355 was a joke. He's a true enthusiast so would have been looked after v. well.
Agree with the comments above.
Interior is spot on in my opinion - not too sparse like a Porker but not wood and leather overload. Although I am not so keen on the black/red piping combo on most (all?) Assettos. I think the standard car has more subtle options - test drove a nice light grey/dary grey combo. I have black/grey with carbon trim.
I also prefer the standard wheels over the Assetto.
Depreciation comment is an interesting one but I think 15K will be about the bottom of the curve for these cars.
Interior is spot on in my opinion - not too sparse like a Porker but not wood and leather overload. Although I am not so keen on the black/red piping combo on most (all?) Assettos. I think the standard car has more subtle options - test drove a nice light grey/dary grey combo. I have black/grey with carbon trim.
I also prefer the standard wheels over the Assetto.
Depreciation comment is an interesting one but I think 15K will be about the bottom of the curve for these cars.
black/red piping is standard an all ACs, not so trendy but I prefer 'classic' as a description... agree about dark wheels, mine's got multispoke silver finish which seem to work well. As for a classic in the making, it's got all the right credentials (style/performance/rarity) but only time will tell, maybe helped by the fact that Ferrari link is a strong one, and Alfa partnered versions will lose some cachet
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