360 to Gallardo, 612 or 575M??
Discussion
I'm looking at changing my 360 and was considering either a Gallardo, 612 or 575M.
I haven't driven either yet which clearly I need to do if it stops snowing, but was intersted in opinions from those who have done the same.
Is it worth hanging out for an e-gear Gallardo or are they trouble, also I love the Orange but will it get killed come re-sale and I should have black?
Are 575s going to take a hit now the 599 is comming out, and are they feeling a bit old compared to a 612?
Will 612s continue to drop and where do we think they'll bottom out?
All thoughts gratefully recieved.....
I haven't driven either yet which clearly I need to do if it stops snowing, but was intersted in opinions from those who have done the same.
Is it worth hanging out for an e-gear Gallardo or are they trouble, also I love the Orange but will it get killed come re-sale and I should have black?
Are 575s going to take a hit now the 599 is comming out, and are they feeling a bit old compared to a 612?
Will 612s continue to drop and where do we think they'll bottom out?
All thoughts gratefully recieved.....
the E gear shift in the Gallardo is meant to be quite good and i've not heard of any serious problems with it.
the Gallardo should look amazing in orange. particularly Orancio Borrealis, Nero (black) is very tasty too. whatever colour you choose it will look great.
i wouldn't worry about trade in time as said before.
don't dicredit the 575. it is still an awesome machine and will always be considered one of Ferrari's best. the values for it will plummet when the 599 reaches the showrooms as most people on the list for one will probably have a 575/550 ready to trade in. the situation may not be good for people who aren't looking to trade their cars in but for someone looking to buy an older model its one of the best times to buy.
the 612 will also suffer a huge blow of depreciation as most big Ferrari's do. i wouldn't let it bother you too much if you are looking to keep the car for some time. it is a great car. it is a bit of a marmite car styling wise you either love it or hate it but in the flesh it is stunning and has so much road presence.
hope this helps answer some of your questions!
good luck!
FMC.
the Gallardo should look amazing in orange. particularly Orancio Borrealis, Nero (black) is very tasty too. whatever colour you choose it will look great.
i wouldn't worry about trade in time as said before.
don't dicredit the 575. it is still an awesome machine and will always be considered one of Ferrari's best. the values for it will plummet when the 599 reaches the showrooms as most people on the list for one will probably have a 575/550 ready to trade in. the situation may not be good for people who aren't looking to trade their cars in but for someone looking to buy an older model its one of the best times to buy.
the 612 will also suffer a huge blow of depreciation as most big Ferrari's do. i wouldn't let it bother you too much if you are looking to keep the car for some time. it is a great car. it is a bit of a marmite car styling wise you either love it or hate it but in the flesh it is stunning and has so much road presence.
hope this helps answer some of your questions!
good luck!
FMC.
I think an 04 04/54 plate E gear Gallardo is a fantastic used car buy, circa 100k, yes over the next 2 years its going to dump 25k but thats what this market is all about. Make sure its Nero or Gallio Midas....Steer well clear of V12 F cars in my experience...
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>> Edited by nastywej on Tuesday 14th March 22:43
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nastywej said:
Here's some advice...
don't buy any of those unless you have cash to blow.... go for something 360...
I know all that, I'm looking to move FROM my 360 wto something else.
I've had a 355 & had the 360 for 2 1/2 years fron new so I am familiar & can live with the costs.
Looking more and more like a Gallardo at the moment.
So orange or black then?????
nastywej said:
Here's some advice...don't buy any of those unless you have cash to blow....you can't buy these type of cars & worry about the money...when you'll feel like that you know your in over your head..i skipped on the CGT for just that reason last year....you have to set aside an amount of cash & write it off from the start knowing & being realistic about the money you'll lose. I think an 04 04/54 plate E gear Gallardo is a fantastic used car buy, circa 100k, yes over the next 2 years its going to dump 25k but thats what this market is all about. Make sure its Nero or Gallio Midas....Steer well clear of V12 F cars, go for something 360...Non CS ( they are the next tumbler ) .... You can pick up fantatic examples of 03/04 cars done 10 for 85-90k.
Its so worth the money on a summers day tramming down the motorway with a group of other exotica !
Hang on!!
An 04 gallardo good value at c 100K???????
and in 2 years it will dump 25K?????
Best trade bids on my 04 car were 77K so you 'dump' 30K from the moment you buy it!
for an 04 gallardo NO MORE THAN £85K reduce the 20K margin the dealer makes!
I found it quick but a dull drive
>> Edited by octane on Tuesday 14th March 21:56
Think i got caried away with the 360 rant & i yes i can't read!
Octane talks tosh though...i've just sold my 04 54 done 8 E Gear for 95k retail to a private chap, a fair price i thought
From new @ 128.5k...
Buy from Lambo L or M, you'll pay a little more but the backup service is excellent & the Lambo feeling is ace. Sure the trade bid was circa 85k but unless your money is no object you sometimes need to do a little spade work when selling.
Proper examples are always good news...Dull drive?...you need to try the Craner Curves @ DP @ 115-120 mph!
Octane talks tosh though...i've just sold my 04 54 done 8 E Gear for 95k retail to a private chap, a fair price i thought
From new @ 128.5k...
Buy from Lambo L or M, you'll pay a little more but the backup service is excellent & the Lambo feeling is ace. Sure the trade bid was circa 85k but unless your money is no object you sometimes need to do a little spade work when selling.
Proper examples are always good news...Dull drive?...you need to try the Craner Curves @ DP @ 115-120 mph!
nastywej said:
Think i got caried away with the 360 rant & i yes i can't read!
Octane talks tosh though...i've just sold my 04 54 done 8 E Gear for 95k retail to a private chap, a fair price i thought
From new @ 128.5k...
Buy from Lambo L or M, you'll pay a little more but the backup service is excellent & the Lambo feeling is ace. Sure the trade bid was circa 85k but unless your money is no object you sometimes need to do a little spade work when selling.
Proper examples are always good news...Dull drive?...you need to try the Craner Curves @ DP @ 115-120 mph!
well as for octane talking tosh i think ive owned a fair few cars including lambos and a gallardo and am qualified to comment. If you got a retail punter to pay 95K for your car you have done very well. That is almost retail price. The trade bids on that car would be 10K less than that at least.Thats the best offer I had on my car and there are 3 others on this forum with the same experience. One individual comments ' I had trade bids the frightened the life out of me when trying to sell the gallardo'
Just ring any garage who buy exotica and will readily pay for an f car and see what they offer you!
Just becuase you got lucky on resale dont assume everyone else is talking tosh. proper examples always good news?? all these were lmbo london supplied cars with less than 6K miles.
>> Edited by octane on Tuesday 14th March 22:33
>> Edited by octane on Tuesday 14th March 22:39
Also P imports & lhd are also bad news...if/when something goes wrong you'll have major issues with warranty etc...I know a couple of people that have bought cheaper examples @ shall we say other non approved dealers & really wish they hadn't.
Speak to Rocco @ Manchester he's not a bad chap.
Ps my e gear clutch was on 45% warn @ 7500 miles...
Speak to Rocco @ Manchester he's not a bad chap.
Ps my e gear clutch was on 45% warn @ 7500 miles...
612's are taking an absolute pasting in terms of value at the moment, so you can look at it as buying a bargain now, or a problem in the future. 575's are going the same way as the 456, but have a wide spread on price. I would go with the Gallardo - looks great, sounds great, colour not really a problem (it's a Lambo, it's meant to look loud!) - OK if you are a racing driver maybe a little dull, but to normal mortals are fab. Look out for the clutch - find out when it last had one, and whether the new one is sintered, as the old ones burn the whole time and don't last long.
northo said:
612's are taking an absolute pasting in terms of value at the moment, so you can look at it as buying a bargain now, or a problem in the future. 575's are going the same way as the 456, but have a wide spread on price. I would go with the Gallardo - looks great, sounds great, colour not really a problem (it's a Lambo, it's meant to look loud!) - OK if you are a racing driver maybe a little dull, but to normal mortals are fab. Look out for the clutch - find out when it last had one, and whether the new one is sintered, as the old ones burn the whole time and don't last long.
look out for the clutch!! well on manual cars they have not truly resolved the problem. Mine went at 1500 miles and again wigth the upgraded one at 4000 miles, then a RMS leak finished that one off.
The gearing os altered in 06 cars helping the clutch a little.
Agreed! early 04 cars have nightmare clutch problems....hence my suggestions to go for an approved Lambo car, pref late 04/2004.5 model..usual give away i think is the logo on sw.... Clutch is deff driver dependant on these later cars...i never sat in traffic and always went into neutral @ every opportunity...don't leave it holding @ biting point either + never use launch control + don't hammer the car in first from a standing start.
My car never missed a note in 18 months..only had the normal re-calls + service + loads of rear tyres, they eat tyres (every 2500 miles rear + 5000 front), circa 250 a corner although they are often on back order, gave 300 for my last set.
Has anyone seen any of the SE's for sale yet?...they would be a brill buy if you could get one for say 110 ish E gear?
PS tri colour paint is brilliant...looks amazing and wears really well...i've had mine @ many track days + VMAX + fast road miles etc...only 3 tiny chips on bonnet + 1 on rear wing...rear alloys a bit chipped though.
>> Edited by nastywej on Tuesday 14th March 22:59
My car never missed a note in 18 months..only had the normal re-calls + service + loads of rear tyres, they eat tyres (every 2500 miles rear + 5000 front), circa 250 a corner although they are often on back order, gave 300 for my last set.
Has anyone seen any of the SE's for sale yet?...they would be a brill buy if you could get one for say 110 ish E gear?
PS tri colour paint is brilliant...looks amazing and wears really well...i've had mine @ many track days + VMAX + fast road miles etc...only 3 tiny chips on bonnet + 1 on rear wing...rear alloys a bit chipped though.
>> Edited by nastywej on Tuesday 14th March 22:59
northo said:
612's are taking an absolute pasting in terms of value at the moment, so you can look at it as buying a bargain now, or a problem in the future. 575's are going the same way as the 456, but have a wide spread on price.
A 612 is one of the few cars that would get me out of Porker's for everyday use (need those little back seats for the kids you see!)- trouble is I'd be very worried about the miles I'd be puttting on it and how that would affect the value - plus of course the tendency for Ferrari's GT models to shed value quicker than a Lancia Beta ! ....BUT it's the only Ferrari model I've lusted after in recent years (Enzo excluded).
So yes the question is - do 612's represent significant value NOW....OR are they just a big residual disaster waiting to happen?......time will tell.......
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