Maserati Quattroporte residuals
Discussion
I've been looking at the Quattroporte and currently they seem to be holding good money. The cheapest are 2 years old with +20k miles at 52.5K, how far do you think you could push a dealer on this as some ask around 60k for a similar car/age. Where will these cars bottom out? 30K maybe?
danhay said:
I know it's a different model, but £7k would get you into a 50k mile 10 year old one with impeccable provenance. So I think bottoming out at £30k may be a bit optimistic if you're looking at the long term?
The Quattroporte of that age wasn't good looking, wasn't heralded as a great car in its day and didn't have a Ferrari based engine. Looking at the 3200, they have bottomed at 20-25k and didn't have the same reputation.
sjn2004 said:
danhay said:
I know it's a different model, but £7k would get you into a 50k mile 10 year old one with impeccable provenance. So I think bottoming out at £30k may be a bit optimistic if you're looking at the long term?
The Quattroporte of that age wasn't good looking, wasn't heralded as a great car in its day and didn't have a Ferrari based engine. Looking at the 3200, they have bottomed at 20-25k and didn't have the same reputation.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... I certainly prefer the relatively clean straight lines of a QPIV to a QPV - but I know most people would disagree. Agree that the QPIV did have its problems, but don't think the Ferrari based engine is an argument. Looking at 3200 vs. 4200 prices (evolution of QPIV bi-turbo engine vs. Ferrari V8), at least in Continental Europe there does not seem to be a difference in depreciation.
Late 2004/early 2005 QPV with about 70k km start now below 60k EUR or 50% list price (again Continental Europe...).
Ghibli Cup said:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... I certainly prefer the relatively clean straight lines of a QPIV to a QPV - but I know most people would disagree.
it sure must be
, the old one beared a startling similarity to a Hyundai of the same era (unsurpisingly I can't remember the model name of the Hyundai!) Edited by Adam B on Wednesday 23 August 13:02
Adam B said:
Ghibli Cup said:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... I certainly prefer the relatively clean straight lines of a QPIV to a QPV - but I know most people would disagree.
it sure must be
, the old one beared a startling similarity to a Hyundai of the same era (unsurpisingly I can't remember the model name of the Hyundai!) Edited by Adam B on Wednesday 23 August 13:02
Noooooooooooooo the old one was a beaut (well to my eye)
Adam B said:
Ghibli Cup said:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... I certainly prefer the relatively clean straight lines of a QPIV to a QPV - but I know most people would disagree.
it sure must be
, the old one beared a startling similarity to a Hyundai of the same era (unsurpisingly I can't remember the model name of the Hyundai!) Edited by Adam B on Wednesday 23 August 13:02
A matter of personal taste - QPIV is designed by Gandini, which is not exactly a nobody among designers, QPV of course Pininfarina.
Adam B said:
Ghibli Cup said:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... I certainly prefer the relatively clean straight lines of a QPIV to a QPV - but I know most people would disagree.
it sure must be
, the old one beared a startling similarity to a Hyundai of the same era (unsurpisingly I can't remember the model name of the Hyundai!) I think your talking about the Quattroporte III / Royale and it’s more Toyota Crown than Hyundai .
I rather liked the Quattroporte IV and seems to me to a good way of spending £15k, that’s said I drove the new Quattroporte V and couldn’t hand the bloody thing back to the salesman quick enough with that moronic bloody gearbox!
Just as well we all like different things such as the truly beautiful Quattroporte I or indeed the brother of Quattroporte III, a Deauville!
Or how about a Hyrdo elastic sprung Quattroporte II, you'll not see mnay of those in the pub car park!
vario-rob said:
Adam B said:
Ghibli Cup said:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... I certainly prefer the relatively clean straight lines of a QPIV to a QPV - but I know most people would disagree.
it sure must be
, the old one beared a startling similarity to a Hyundai of the same era (unsurpisingly I can't remember the model name of the Hyundai!) I think your talking about the Quattroporte III / Royale and it’s more Toyota Crown than Hyundai .
I rather liked the Quattroporte IV and seems to me to a good way of spending £15k, that’s said I drove the new Quattroporte V and couldn’t hand the bloody thing back to the salesman quick enough with that moronic bloody gearbox!
Just as well we all like different things such as the truly beautiful Quattroporte I or indeed the brother of Quattroporte III, a Deauville!
Or how about a Hyrdo elastic sprung Quattroporte II, you'll not see mnay of those in the pub car park!
Quattroporte 11 had nothing to do with Moulton and was hydropneumatic being, in effect, a Citroen SM in a long skirt. I think they`re quite groovy in a Fiat 130 kind of way.
QP1 remains the nicest - whoever thinks that the QPV will settle at £30K hasn`t studied the market before!
current qp should hold vale due to looks and uniqueness. However, once they become 3 years old and warranty expires a lot will depend on warranty extension costs and reliability reputation. By the way, how are they reliability wise? def one for the future for me, 10/10 to maserati for producing a great looking car
Ghibli Cup said:
sjn2004 said:
danhay said:
I know it's a different model, but £7k would get you into a 50k mile 10 year old one with impeccable provenance. So I think bottoming out at £30k may be a bit optimistic if you're looking at the long term?
The Quattroporte of that age wasn't good looking, wasn't heralded as a great car in its day and didn't have a Ferrari based engine. Looking at the 3200, they have bottomed at 20-25k and didn't have the same reputation.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... I certainly prefer the relatively clean straight lines of a QPIV to a QPV - but I know most people would disagree. Agree that the QPIV did have its problems, but don't think the Ferrari based engine is an argument. Looking at 3200 vs. 4200 prices (evolution of QPIV bi-turbo engine vs. Ferrari V8), at least in Continental Europe there does not seem to be a difference in depreciation.
Late 2004/early 2005 QPV with about 70k km start now below 60k EUR or 50% list price (again Continental Europe...).
How much were the QP IV when new by the way? Maybe QP V ending up around early 20's is more realistic.
sjn2004 said:
Ghibli Cup said:
sjn2004 said:
danhay said:
I know it's a different model, but £7k would get you into a 50k mile 10 year old one with impeccable provenance. So I think bottoming out at £30k may be a bit optimistic if you're looking at the long term?
The Quattroporte of that age wasn't good looking, wasn't heralded as a great car in its day and didn't have a Ferrari based engine. Looking at the 3200, they have bottomed at 20-25k and didn't have the same reputation.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... I certainly prefer the relatively clean straight lines of a QPIV to a QPV - but I know most people would disagree. Agree that the QPIV did have its problems, but don't think the Ferrari based engine is an argument. Looking at 3200 vs. 4200 prices (evolution of QPIV bi-turbo engine vs. Ferrari V8), at least in Continental Europe there does not seem to be a difference in depreciation.
Late 2004/early 2005 QPV with about 70k km start now below 60k EUR or 50% list price (again Continental Europe...).
How much were the QP IV when new by the way? Maybe QP V ending up around early 20's is more realistic.
If I recall it correctly they were not far short of £60k but even after a year they seemed to have shed 2/3 of their new cost!
I’m sure the Series V car will hold on much better as despite my own views of the IV the V was a clean sheet of paper and was very much marketed with the Ferrari DNA and so perceived as a far superior thing. If you can live with the wretched gearbox? It's horrid.
Personally I’d save yourself a huge amount of money and buy a Phaeton if you fancy a really different big four door. We’ve just bought a V10 diesel one which like earlier Quattroporte lost money like few others.
A year old, 10k on the dial and £28k! Its build is peerless, goes like a bloody train and you’ll not see another
Edited by vario-rob on Wednesday 23 August 23:05
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