3200 - Viewing Tomorrow
Discussion
Hi All,
I have done a few searches on here as to what to look for when viewing a 3200, but if poss would you be so kind as to give me a few more pointers please?
The car I am going to view tomorrow will be my first 3200.
It's an auto - Is there any financial difference to resale, or advantages / disadvantages, or noticeable performance differences?
The colour combi is Dark Blue metallic / Beige Leather.
It has FSH at Maranello / Bob Houghton / Auto Shield.
When should the cambelt service have been carried out (either 30k or every 3 yrs?)
When does the rust start to appear?
Any suspect noises I should be aware of on the test drive? (turbos, engine etc)
What oil should it use? - Is selenia 10-60 a must...and why?
Any other info would be appreciated.
Thanks
Jules.
I have done a few searches on here as to what to look for when viewing a 3200, but if poss would you be so kind as to give me a few more pointers please?
The car I am going to view tomorrow will be my first 3200.
It's an auto - Is there any financial difference to resale, or advantages / disadvantages, or noticeable performance differences?
The colour combi is Dark Blue metallic / Beige Leather.
It has FSH at Maranello / Bob Houghton / Auto Shield.
When should the cambelt service have been carried out (either 30k or every 3 yrs?)
When does the rust start to appear?
Any suspect noises I should be aware of on the test drive? (turbos, engine etc)
What oil should it use? - Is selenia 10-60 a must...and why?
Any other info would be appreciated.
Thanks
Jules.
Edited by Cyclone1 on Tuesday 12th December 10:14
From the Maserati dealer in Swindon, as I too am looking at 3200's:
MODEL Annual 10000km 30000km 50000km 70000km 90000km 110km cambelt
3200 6250m 18750m 31250m 43750m 56520m 68750m
Lab hours 5 8 8 12 8 8 20 4.1
Lab charge 600.00 960.00 960.00 1440.00 960.00 960.00 2400.00 492.00
Parts 60.61 182.25 267.35 378.75 267.35 243.85 644.25 65.00
Oil 93.75 93.75 93.75 93.75 93.75 93.75 93.75
Sundries 12.00 19.20 19.20 28.80 19.20 19.20 48.00 9.84
Total
ex VAT 766.36 1255.20 1340.30 1941.30 1340.30 1316.80 3186.00 566.84
Total
Inc VAT 900.47 1474.86 1574.85 2281.03 1574.85 1547.24 3743.55 666.04
*Cambelt changed every 3 yrs or 31250 miles.
*Man gbox oil on mileage serv
*Rear chains at 68750 miles
*Diff oil 6250.31250,56520 serv
*Auto box oil 18750,43750,68750
It would be a lot cheaper at an independant
Sorry cannot get the formatting right for it to sit in a table
MODEL Annual 10000km 30000km 50000km 70000km 90000km 110km cambelt
3200 6250m 18750m 31250m 43750m 56520m 68750m
Lab hours 5 8 8 12 8 8 20 4.1
Lab charge 600.00 960.00 960.00 1440.00 960.00 960.00 2400.00 492.00
Parts 60.61 182.25 267.35 378.75 267.35 243.85 644.25 65.00
Oil 93.75 93.75 93.75 93.75 93.75 93.75 93.75
Sundries 12.00 19.20 19.20 28.80 19.20 19.20 48.00 9.84
Total
ex VAT 766.36 1255.20 1340.30 1941.30 1340.30 1316.80 3186.00 566.84
Total
Inc VAT 900.47 1474.86 1574.85 2281.03 1574.85 1547.24 3743.55 666.04
*Cambelt changed every 3 yrs or 31250 miles.
*Man gbox oil on mileage serv
*Rear chains at 68750 miles
*Diff oil 6250.31250,56520 serv
*Auto box oil 18750,43750,68750
It would be a lot cheaper at an independant
Sorry cannot get the formatting right for it to sit in a table
Edited by Dakkon on Tuesday 12th December 10:41
Edited by Dakkon on Tuesday 12th December 10:43
Dakkon said:
How did the viewing go?
Hi,
It went well, it was the first 3200 I've been to see and I have to say that I was pleasently surprised. The general condition of the car was good and it drove well also. Had a brief moment of panic when the engine started revving of it's own accord whilst the car was stationary and in "P" mode, but the owner knew how to clear this, not sure if this is a common problem though. The car ticks over at idle at 1000rpm and am not sure if this is correct for the car? Plus it hunts a little, somewhere between 950rpm and 1200rpm. The other thing that I noticed was how urgent it would start to accelerate with just a dab of the throttle (from standstill), I've read that this is a trait of the pre-mid '00 cars and that there were software upgrades to rectify it, although if I have to be honest I didn't find it a problem.
I liked the interior although I think the quality of some of the controls, stalks and steering wheel let it down (the steering wheel reminded me of the one on a Fiat Coupe I owned a few years back, which was not unpleasent, but I expected something a little special from Maserati), the interior was tan leather, which compliments the dark blue exterior well, although I have to admit that it didn't grow on me as much as I thought from the pics.
Handling wise the car felt pretty good, however the steering feels a bit too light for the weight of the car, just meant I had to concentrate more. Cornering felt good for the type of car it is and the ride in general felt fine although not as "comfortable" (it is a GT) as I expected.
Performance - it felt quick, but not blisteringly quick, the auto box worked well, but there were a few occassions where it felt a little flat, from a standing start though it flew.
All in I was quite impressed and while it won't be delivering the thrills of my Cerbera, it should certainly deliver a bit more comfort and all weather ability.
Jules.
Youre brief moment of panic when the revs rose without any thottle input from you means that the throttle potentiometer is past its sell by date in my experience. £5 or £6 hundred quids worth depending where you source it from.
Tick over of 1000rpm is fine and normal.
How to get the best from the chassis and engine will in come with time. They are a car that you "grow" into for the best performance.
Turn the traction off and the sport mode on in the wet/damp and you'll have more thills than are healthly for you.
Tick over of 1000rpm is fine and normal.
How to get the best from the chassis and engine will in come with time. They are a car that you "grow" into for the best performance.
Turn the traction off and the sport mode on in the wet/damp and you'll have more thills than are healthly for you.
Cyclone1 said:
Thankyou both for your replies and information.
I think I will definitely try a manual before deciding.
Throttle Pots at £5-600 (seems steep), is that just for the parts or does that include replacing and setting up?
Jules.
I think I will definitely try a manual before deciding.
Throttle Pots at £5-600 (seems steep), is that just for the parts or does that include replacing and setting up?
Jules.
Wouldnt put you off a 3200 but parts prices are steep.
The Alfa part which is the same from a late V6 GTV is the same.....£200 plus fitting, if you use your head (and the internet) you dont need to pay through the nose for parts.
Oh, manual is the way to go in my opinion, and watch out for rust! All the ones i saw had some form of rust....door bottoms, rear arches, boot lid and bonnet leading edge. This was the single thing that stopped me buying all the cars I saw.
Oh, manual is the way to go in my opinion, and watch out for rust! All the ones i saw had some form of rust....door bottoms, rear arches, boot lid and bonnet leading edge. This was the single thing that stopped me buying all the cars I saw.
Edited by conaero(tarquin) on Thursday 14th December 09:40
POORCARDEALER said:
Cyclone1 said:
Thankyou both for your replies and information.
I think I will definitely try a manual before deciding.
Throttle Pots at £5-600 (seems steep), is that just for the parts or does that include replacing and setting up?
Jules.
I think I will definitely try a manual before deciding.
Throttle Pots at £5-600 (seems steep), is that just for the parts or does that include replacing and setting up?
Jules.
Wouldnt put you off a 3200 but parts prices are steep.
Yes I know, and it always the parts you don't expect to be expensive that are, luckily there'll be a fair few alternative parts that can be fitted as per the Alfa recommendation. I own a TVR Cerbera (2nd one) so know all about expensive parts.....
Jules.
Dakkon said:
What a waste of time, car was not at the dealers, even though I called yesterday to arrange to look at it today, then it turns out that someone has already put a 500 pound deposit on it pending finance.
Grrrr
Grrrr
How frustrating...... Back to the drawing board then. Do you have any others lined up to view?
Cyclone1 said:
Dakkon said:
What a waste of time, car was not at the dealers, even though I called yesterday to arrange to look at it today, then it turns out that someone has already put a 500 pound deposit on it pending finance.
Grrrr
Grrrr
How frustrating...... Back to the drawing board then. Do you have any others lined up to view?
No, not yet, will probably start looking seriously again after Christmas, I am quite happy to wait for the right car
'Bump'
I too have been toying with the idea of swaping the Cerb for a 3200. Having done a search or two on here would be interested to know what I should be looking for - Apart from condition,condition,condition!!!
Love my Cerb, but must be getting old and want a bit of GT touring that Mrs Smoke will drive with the lack of teeth shattering noise!
It's an itch that won't go away, especially now I've driven one, albeit only a short distance. I really wanted to hate it, but I loved it!
I too have been toying with the idea of swaping the Cerb for a 3200. Having done a search or two on here would be interested to know what I should be looking for - Apart from condition,condition,condition!!!
Love my Cerb, but must be getting old and want a bit of GT touring that Mrs Smoke will drive with the lack of teeth shattering noise!
It's an itch that won't go away, especially now I've driven one, albeit only a short distance. I really wanted to hate it, but I loved it!
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