Should the Audi R8 be on THIS part of the forum???

[dealmaker]

Guys,

The forthcoming Audi R8 represents a major departure for Audi - an exotic, mid-engined sportscar that, with it's closer association to Lamborghini than to it's namesake parentage, doesnt really fit in over on the Audi/VW board.

On that basis one could argue that it has more relevance to this forum (and indeed a greater reference than some of the cars that appear on here).

I have to admit to a degree of bias/self interest because I have one on order as my everyday hack - and as I am inherently lazy - I'd rather just need to peruse ONE board when I visit the forum.

Thoughts??

[stevenm]

it's an audi so hence the audi board should be used :-)

[MJK 24]

One could argue that the modern Lamborghini has such a level of Audi influence, that it should be on the Audi board and not vice versa for the R8!

[dealmaker]

MJK 24 said:

One could argue that the modern Lamborghini has such a level of Audi influence, that it should be on the Audi board and not vice versa for the R8!

But using that logic - Ferrari's would be on the Fiat board, as would Maserati's and Buggatti's should be on the VW/audi board!

[MJK 24]

dealmaker said:

MJK 24 said:

One could argue that the modern Lamborghini has such a level of Audi influence, that it should be on the Audi board and not vice versa for the R8!

But using that logic - Ferrari's would be on the Fiat board, as would Maserati's and Buggatti's should be on the VW/audi board!

I take your point! I note that the BMW people have been split into "M Power" and "Plebs". maybe there should be a forum for people with RS2's, RS4's, RS6's and the up and coming R8 people...

[KUB3]

Probably best to have a seperate V10 forum so as not to been seen near pikey V8 owners too.

p.s

Sod off back to your lupo mates

Edited by KUB3 on Saturday 23 December 17:54

[dazren]

dealmaker said:

.......Thoughts??

You're trying to cionfuse the hell out of everyone!

Stop it!

[dealmaker]

All joking aside it is an issue for certain supercars (and there are, for instance, more Ford GT owners on the forums than say Veyron owners).

So would it not be better to have a "SUPERCARS" forum ???- to include:

Lamborghini's
Maserati's
Ferrari's
Bugatti's
Koenigsegg's
Zonda's
Ford GT
Audi R8

[Jonny5]

Agree .... But how would you define Supercar Darren

Lambo Murcie, Diablo
Maserati MC12
Ferrari F40/50/60/288 GTO(EVO)

[cummingsa]

Jonny5 said:

Agree .... But how would you define Supercar Darren

Lambo Murcie, Diablo
Maserati MC12
Ferrari F40/50/60/288 GTO(EVO)

Johnny,

Don't open that can of worms again, you'll have Steve F on his soapbox and numerous school kids chipping in!!

Andy.

On a side note I think Lambo and ferrari etc should have there own forum, but thats just my 2P's worth

[graeme73s]

I am told that Porsche are now the largest shareholder in the Audi/VW group so maybe we should move to the Porsche forum

[bluesatin]

Is a a 911 turbo a supercar- certainly quicker than some!

[dazren]

dealmaker said:

All joking aside it is an issue for certain supercars (and there are, for instance, more Ford GT owners on the forums than say Veyron owners).

So would it not be better to have a "SUPERCARS" forum ???- to include:

Lamborghini's
Maserati's
Ferrari's
Bugatti's
Koenigsegg's
Zonda's
Ford GT
Audi R8

Hmmm, interesting point where to draw the boundaries. Have too many manufacturers in one grouping and it'll be harder to navigate.

Perhaps Keep FML how it was and move Bugatti over to an ultracar section of say Bugatti, Koenigsegg, Pagani?

Anyone else got any ideas?

Getting back to the thread title isn't the R8 a direct competitor to the 911 C2/C4, so it wouldn't be consider a supercar anyway?

Edited by dazren on Sunday 24th December 12:24

[lsb]

Sorry but i don't see the Audi R8 as a supercar. Far too close to a high range 911 in performance and price and not expensive or exclusive enough to justify its ugliness. It may very well be a great car but I believe it is a sportscar not a supercar.

[dealmaker]

I guess the point is - does a Ford GT owner post in and amongst Fiesta/Focus owners - or amongst cars more akin to his? (Fezzas and Lambo's?) - and does and Audi R8 owner have relevant posts - interesting to owners of Golf's and A3's - or would his posts be more relevant to Gallardo owners???

[lsb]

So following that logic, Porsche carrera gt owners will not post in the Porsche forum because 924/944 owners post there also ? If someone does not like the heritage of their choice of manufacturer or the image of their fellow marque owners they should not buy the car in the first place. If I were looking for info on a Ford gt40 I would look in the Ford forum because that is who made it, that way keeps it nice and simple.

I own a pre Audi Lambo, why would I being interested in reading about an Audi on the same forum ? Audi go to great lengths (or should do ) to keep the products in seperate markets. If you want a Lamborghini buy a Lamborghini, if you want an Audi buy an Audi and enjoy the postings of fellow Audi owners on the Audi forum !!

P.S I have nothing against Audi. Considered buying an rs4, didn't do it in the end though, will not pay a premium on a car with such a short shelf life.

[dealmaker]

I think you are missing the point - it's not a heritage or or brand thing - maybe the Audi is a bad example - let's take the Ford GT as perhaps a better example.

The forums are about exchanging infrmation and experiences right? - is a Ford GT owner, or prospective owner, likely to have better quality feedback on the Ford forum - where most posters are Focus/Coswroth drivers - OR on this part of the forum - where many more individuals will have considered or have owned a GT??

I'm in this boat now because I'm about to add a Ford GT to the fleet - I placed posts on the Ford forums and didn't get a single worthwhile reply - whereas over on this forum there are a number of individuals who had really good feeback for me. Actually if you look back you will see that there are many more posts on the FML forum about Ford GT's than on the Ford forum.

[lsb]

I hear what you are saying but still think that having a supercar forum is " opening a can of worms " as someone posted earlier. What is /is not a supercar is a very personal call. People would like to hear that their pride and joy is NOT a supercar as readily as being told that their wife looks like a bulldog chewing a piss covered nettle !!

I can understand that you have received good info on this forum concerning the gt40 but would take a guess that a lot of this has come from dealers and past owners who frequent fml. If it makes life easier why not start a gt40 sub forum in the same way the m- power/csl guys have under BMW ?

I know it would be quite frustrating at times but gt40 owners not posting on the Ford forum does not make any sense to me. What also makes no sense to me is watering down a defined forum such as F,M&L.

If it aint broke don't fix it !! Good luck with your new car.

[markbe]

dazren said:

dealmaker said:

All joking aside it is an issue for certain supercars (and there are, for instance, more Ford GT owners on the forums than say Veyron owners).

So would it not be better to have a "SUPERCARS" forum ???- to include:

Lamborghini's
Maserati's
Ferrari's
Bugatti's
Koenigsegg's
Zonda's
Ford GT
Audi R8

Hmmm, interesting point where to draw the boundaries. Have too many manufacturers in one grouping and it'll be harder to navigate.

Perhaps Keep FML how it was and move Bugatti over to an ultracar section of say Bugatti, Koenigsegg, Pagani?

Anyone else got any ideas?

Edited by dazren on Sunday 24th December 12:24

You could have an Ultracar section, governed by power to weight ratio.I would say a Ultracar
should have 350 bhp ton,maybe make that 370bhp ton, as all the manufactures lie about the
weight of there cars!!
Alternatively, the top 6 from each Vmax.

Mark

[sjn2004]

dealmaker said:

I think you are missing the point - it's not a heritage or or brand thing - maybe the Audi is a bad example - let's take the Ford GT as perhaps a better example.

The forums are about exchanging infrmation and experiences right? - is a Ford GT owner, or prospective owner, likely to have better quality feedback on the Ford forum - where most posters are Focus/Coswroth drivers - OR on this part of the forum - where many more individuals will have considered or have owned a GT??

I'm in this boat now because I'm about to add a Ford GT to the fleet - I placed posts on the Ford forums and didn't get a single worthwhile reply - whereas over on this forum there are a number of individuals who had really good feeback for me. Actually if you look back you will see that there are many more posts on the FML forum about Ford GT's than on the Ford forum.

The Ford GT has a massive performance gap/price from the other Ford models, whereas the R8 is in the same price bracket and also shares the same engine as other Audi models , therefore the only reason for it not to be in the Audi forum would be that it is mid engined.