hope you've all signed this petition against travel tax!!
hope you've all signed this petition against travel tax!!
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zed3

Original Poster:

282 posts

293 months

chris_crossley

1,164 posts

308 months

Wednesday 10th January 2007
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I have added my name. What bothers me about these pettitions is the lack of publication and contestability. I don't mean just yours. Also the effect that they may or maynot have. If for example i started a pettetion for cars to have engines no bigger that 1ltr and got lots of tree huggers to sign it. Then it will have a high number. One would assume that for it to be any good. It would have to be published and you should also be able to vote against it as well. As a result you could have a petition signed by 250,000 tree huggers having an effect on 6 million drivers.

The downside been that if you publish all pettitions then people will get put off by the number of them. Unless you also see evidence that they are taken into account, they will be ignored as another failed attempt at democracy.

Sorry if its a bit too political but just thought i'd share my concern's

zed3

Original Poster:

282 posts

293 months

Wednesday 10th January 2007
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Agreed

It's not actually my petition - as for publication read todays Daily Telegraph front page!!

Now has over 173000 signatures making it massive.

10 Downing Street didn't want to add a section for 'those against the petition' as these petitions are merely to make the PM aware of some public opinion....

worth signing anyway unless you want to pay £50000 a year for that hours commute to work..................................

Rupert

dj kam

177 posts

278 months

Wednesday 10th January 2007
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Done

nicol@

3,851 posts

261 months

Wednesday 10th January 2007
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signed (now up to 186k)

XXVIII

2,800 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th January 2007
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signed at 1.40pm, 10.01.07

Sadly, knowing that the 'people' who really understand the maintenance and manipulation of power will stop at nothing to reach the time where they know, always and absolutely, what everyone does, wherever and whenever they do it, means that this petition may make almost no difference at all.

Since these people, (whether elected to office or more usually otherwise), choose to squander the great advances that have been made in information and communication technology in recent years in this manner, then perhaps the best solution for more normal humans is perhaps to generate a movement of mass, popular and peaceful action of some kind. I'd suggest beginning with lots of parking very 'uncooperatively' outside Government offices and then perhaps move on to something less futile like ...

The more perceptive could also try to find some (more!) ways of exposing and refuting the increasingly demented elements of the green nonsense we see everywhere and the manner in which the darker of the power-crazed politicians have used that almost endless sequence of nonsense-talk for their continuing war against the individual.

Yes, the climate is changing somewhat but, no, still no actual sign of the end of the world as we know it, nor yet much along the lines of, say, Chesil Beach vanishing under the great waves of melted polar ice BUT lots of clear indication of the failure of governments to do all the expensive stuff like maintain the infrastructure of a state, especially when they can just tax people and make them feel responsible for those potential climate problems as well as doing nothing much with their money except spend it on more and more monitoring and control technology.

Peaceful protests seemed to work for Ghandi and India and it is to be hoped that it can be made to work again.