Engine warning on Gallardo
Discussion
Only last night I was telling someone about how nothing ever went wrong with my Lambo
So today I washed the car then went for a short run along the motorway
After ~5 miles I pulled off the motorway and then as I was changing down gear on the approach to a roundabout the Cylinder Bank 1-5 warning came on.
Then it started flashing between the 1-5 & 6-10 warning
I was almost home so I just drove the last bit – the engine sounded fine
My first thought was that water had got into the electrics as I was washing it – so I left the car in the garage to let it dry off
I just went back to try the car out again just now (after 5 hours)
On startup it just keeps alternating between the “1-5” and “6-10” warning
I don’t really want to get Lambo Assist out here if I can avoid it
Is the system actually finding an problem or do I just need to reset it? If so how?
I remember having this same problem once on my 360 and all it required was a reset to solve
btw car is an 06 Spyder
So today I washed the car then went for a short run along the motorway
After ~5 miles I pulled off the motorway and then as I was changing down gear on the approach to a roundabout the Cylinder Bank 1-5 warning came on.
Then it started flashing between the 1-5 & 6-10 warning
I was almost home so I just drove the last bit – the engine sounded fine
My first thought was that water had got into the electrics as I was washing it – so I left the car in the garage to let it dry off
I just went back to try the car out again just now (after 5 hours)
On startup it just keeps alternating between the “1-5” and “6-10” warning
I don’t really want to get Lambo Assist out here if I can avoid it
Is the system actually finding an problem or do I just need to reset it? If so how?
I remember having this same problem once on my 360 and all it required was a reset to solve
btw car is an 06 Spyder
I had exactly the same fault on my 06 coupe last week with the engine symbol and cylinders 1-5 showing. The ECU put the car into limp home mode so at least I wasn't stranded. I've done less than 700 miles in it from new. I left calling Lamborghini Assist until 1st thing Monday as the dealer wouldn't have been open over the weekend. This turned into a trial in itself and the car was eventually taken by flatbed to Lambo Birmingham on Tuesday. I was told that I would hopefully get it back by Friday but it seems they have had a high absenteeism this week due to a mix of holidays and illness so hadn't got to far on resolving the fault. They've changed ignition coils with no success and the next thing they are going to try is a new ECU. I was told that all being well I should get the car back by the middle of the week. At this point I'm not overly impressed by their slow approach towards fixing the problem but I'll reserve final judgement until they get the car sorted. I would have thought that the plug in diagnostic system should have pinpointed the general area of the fault but evidently it hasn't.
I'm also getting clear indicators fitted whilst it's in and having an aftermarket bluetooth kit installed which I'm assured works through the infotainment unit just like the factory version.
I'm also getting clear indicators fitted whilst it's in and having an aftermarket bluetooth kit installed which I'm assured works through the infotainment unit just like the factory version.
Doug, I have seen these fault codes twice now - car was running fine on both occasions.
I called up LHW the first time it happened to ask what to do. They said as long as there were no red fault codes (mine was yellow), then to drive it into them (I wasnt far away). They plugged in the diagnostic laptop and it showed a one off misfire (these things happen) - they cleared it, and it was fine.
The second time it happened I turned the car off, left it for a few hours, then the fault cleared itself.
I have read various other owners getting the same fault code, and they just drove on and the fault code disappeared after a few hours.
I called up LHW the first time it happened to ask what to do. They said as long as there were no red fault codes (mine was yellow), then to drive it into them (I wasnt far away). They plugged in the diagnostic laptop and it showed a one off misfire (these things happen) - they cleared it, and it was fine.
The second time it happened I turned the car off, left it for a few hours, then the fault cleared itself.
I have read various other owners getting the same fault code, and they just drove on and the fault code disappeared after a few hours.
Mosi said:
Doug, I have seen these fault codes twice now - car was running fine on both occasions.
I called up LHW the first time it happened to ask what to do. They said as long as there were no red fault codes (mine was yellow), then to drive it into them (I wasnt far away). They plugged in the diagnostic laptop and it showed a one off misfire (these things happen) - they cleared it, and it was fine.
The second time it happened I turned the car off, left it for a few hours, then the fault cleared itself.
I have read various other owners getting the same fault code, and they just drove on and the fault code disappeared after a few hours.
I called up LHW the first time it happened to ask what to do. They said as long as there were no red fault codes (mine was yellow), then to drive it into them (I wasnt far away). They plugged in the diagnostic laptop and it showed a one off misfire (these things happen) - they cleared it, and it was fine.
The second time it happened I turned the car off, left it for a few hours, then the fault cleared itself.
I have read various other owners getting the same fault code, and they just drove on and the fault code disappeared after a few hours.
Thanks, I'll call the guys in Acton today about it
Both the ignition warnings (1-5,6-10) are in yellow
If the car is driving OK, I'd say you don't have a serious problem on your hands.
Do a 'hardware reset' by disconnecting the battery for 10 minutes, reconnect for 10 minutes and then switch the ignition on.
ECU will reset and clear any temporary error codes.
I may have mentioned this solution once or twice over the last couple of years.
Good luck, mate.
Do a 'hardware reset' by disconnecting the battery for 10 minutes, reconnect for 10 minutes and then switch the ignition on.
ECU will reset and clear any temporary error codes.
I may have mentioned this solution once or twice over the last couple of years.
Good luck, mate.
crikeymikey said:
If the car is driving OK, I'd say you don't have a serious problem on your hands.
Do a 'hardware reset' by disconnecting the battery for 10 minutes, reconnect for 10 minutes and then switch the ignition on.
ECU will reset and clear any temporary error codes.
I may have mentioned this solution once or twice over the last couple of years.
Good luck, mate.
Do a 'hardware reset' by disconnecting the battery for 10 minutes, reconnect for 10 minutes and then switch the ignition on.
ECU will reset and clear any temporary error codes.
I may have mentioned this solution once or twice over the last couple of years.
Good luck, mate.
Where is the battery?
oh forget it, I'll get Lambo to come and fix it
Hi guys,
To be honest, the cars engine diagnostics are a little too protective, and if some spurious action happens in the engine, it will flash up a warning.
However, as with Murcielago as well, the engine will shut down a bank, and go into get you home mode before you will do any damage to it.
Also, one of the main problems with the G car is that if the engine is run with less than a quarter tank of petrol in it, you do run the risk of engine warning lights and stuttering, due to the fact of the way the pump works.
Don't ask me why, it is just something that Lamborghini used to advise us not to do. Also, another thing which is very important to both Murcielago and Gallardo engines is that whenever you start them up, always let the engine run for more than 2 minutes.
Any less than this will, over time, clog up the plugs, and cause a the affected bank to shut down. You will be faced with a bill of around £500 to replace coils and plugs, as this will not be covered under warranty, as Lamborghini will throw the claim out once the relevant ecu download is attached to the claim, due to the fact that the car has been run for less than 2 minutes.
Hope this helps, no doubt I will get into trouble for posting this, but only trying to help.
CrikeyMickey, hope you are well mate, speak soon,
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
To be honest, the cars engine diagnostics are a little too protective, and if some spurious action happens in the engine, it will flash up a warning.
However, as with Murcielago as well, the engine will shut down a bank, and go into get you home mode before you will do any damage to it.
Also, one of the main problems with the G car is that if the engine is run with less than a quarter tank of petrol in it, you do run the risk of engine warning lights and stuttering, due to the fact of the way the pump works.
Don't ask me why, it is just something that Lamborghini used to advise us not to do. Also, another thing which is very important to both Murcielago and Gallardo engines is that whenever you start them up, always let the engine run for more than 2 minutes.
Any less than this will, over time, clog up the plugs, and cause a the affected bank to shut down. You will be faced with a bill of around £500 to replace coils and plugs, as this will not be covered under warranty, as Lamborghini will throw the claim out once the relevant ecu download is attached to the claim, due to the fact that the car has been run for less than 2 minutes.
Hope this helps, no doubt I will get into trouble for posting this, but only trying to help.
CrikeyMickey, hope you are well mate, speak soon,
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
ruttboy said:
Hi guys,
To be honest, the cars engine diagnostics are a little too protective, and if some spurious action happens in the engine, it will flash up a warning.
However, as with Murcielago as well, the engine will shut down a bank, and go into get you home mode before you will do any damage to it.
Also, one of the main problems with the G car is that if the engine is run with less than a quarter tank of petrol in it, you do run the risk of engine warning lights and stuttering, due to the fact of the way the pump works.
Don't ask me why, it is just something that Lamborghini used to advise us not to do. Also, another thing which is very important to both Murcielago and Gallardo engines is that whenever you start them up, always let the engine run for more than 2 minutes.
Any less than this will, over time, clog up the plugs, and cause a the affected bank to shut down. You will be faced with a bill of around £500 to replace coils and plugs, as this will not be covered under warranty, as Lamborghini will throw the claim out once the relevant ecu download is attached to the claim, due to the fact that the car has been run for less than 2 minutes.
Hope this helps, no doubt I will get into trouble for posting this, but only trying to help.
CrikeyMickey, hope you are well mate, speak soon,
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
To be honest, the cars engine diagnostics are a little too protective, and if some spurious action happens in the engine, it will flash up a warning.
However, as with Murcielago as well, the engine will shut down a bank, and go into get you home mode before you will do any damage to it.
Also, one of the main problems with the G car is that if the engine is run with less than a quarter tank of petrol in it, you do run the risk of engine warning lights and stuttering, due to the fact of the way the pump works.
Don't ask me why, it is just something that Lamborghini used to advise us not to do. Also, another thing which is very important to both Murcielago and Gallardo engines is that whenever you start them up, always let the engine run for more than 2 minutes.
Any less than this will, over time, clog up the plugs, and cause a the affected bank to shut down. You will be faced with a bill of around £500 to replace coils and plugs, as this will not be covered under warranty, as Lamborghini will throw the claim out once the relevant ecu download is attached to the claim, due to the fact that the car has been run for less than 2 minutes.
Hope this helps, no doubt I will get into trouble for posting this, but only trying to help.
CrikeyMickey, hope you are well mate, speak soon,
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
Sorry but where does it say anything in the manual about running the car for 2 minutes?
Actually I'm almost certain that it says the total opposite in my Spyder manual - it say just drive, don't let the car warm up
Doug.
Alan's reference is more about moving the car persistantly, without ever letting it warm up.
If someone is constantly shuffling their car about, without really letting the engine do it's job, all sorts of problems can occur.
So long as the engine is given at least 2 minutes (to settle down, clear out H2O, etc) either by actually being used immediately or just left to sit and warm through, all will be fine.
And you're right. The instruction handbook does recommend immediate use over 'warm up'.
Most supercars exhaust systems are a complete viper's nest of tortuous pipework. Cats and silencers do not take kindly to being filled with water vapour. Even leaving an engine to idle will not necessarily clear the exhaust of water in 2 minutes as exhaust pressure at idle is very low. I suspect that Lamborghini recommends immediate use to avoid problems associated with this.
If all owners had a grasp of physics, it would help.
Does that clarify things?
Alan's reference is more about moving the car persistantly, without ever letting it warm up.
If someone is constantly shuffling their car about, without really letting the engine do it's job, all sorts of problems can occur.
So long as the engine is given at least 2 minutes (to settle down, clear out H2O, etc) either by actually being used immediately or just left to sit and warm through, all will be fine.
And you're right. The instruction handbook does recommend immediate use over 'warm up'.
Most supercars exhaust systems are a complete viper's nest of tortuous pipework. Cats and silencers do not take kindly to being filled with water vapour. Even leaving an engine to idle will not necessarily clear the exhaust of water in 2 minutes as exhaust pressure at idle is very low. I suspect that Lamborghini recommends immediate use to avoid problems associated with this. If all owners had a grasp of physics, it would help.
Does that clarify things?
Edited by crikeymikey on Monday 19th March 10:25
Doug, does your Spyder dial in about 1700 revs when starting from cold ? - then gradually over around 2 minutes crawl back down to the 1k revs idle level ?
I always wait for the car to settle down to 1k idle before moving off (ruttboy informed me of this when he was at LHW). If I set off before the car has dropped to 1k idle, then the fly by wire throttle seems to set the car at the wrong idle speed and the sodding thing stalls all over the place.
I always wait for the car to settle down to 1k idle before moving off (ruttboy informed me of this when he was at LHW). If I set off before the car has dropped to 1k idle, then the fly by wire throttle seems to set the car at the wrong idle speed and the sodding thing stalls all over the place.
SJP63,
It would be lovely if every manufacturer admitted to certain foibles that their products suffer from, and make available the information that they give their dealers, but then if they did, dealers would never make any money over and above servicing.
And with regards to 'if it's not in the book, then it's b**lock', I wish I could have used that the last time I got disciplined by Lamborghini for posting too much information on here.
Big brother is watching, and I am only trying to help, in order to avoid a nasty, avoidable £500 bill.
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
It would be lovely if every manufacturer admitted to certain foibles that their products suffer from, and make available the information that they give their dealers, but then if they did, dealers would never make any money over and above servicing.
And with regards to 'if it's not in the book, then it's b**lock', I wish I could have used that the last time I got disciplined by Lamborghini for posting too much information on here.
Big brother is watching, and I am only trying to help, in order to avoid a nasty, avoidable £500 bill.
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
ruttboy said:
SJP63,
It would be lovely if every manufacturer admitted to certain foibles that their products suffer from, and make available the information that they give their dealers, but then if they did, dealers would never make any money over and above servicing.
And with regards to 'if it's not in the book, then it's b**lock', I wish I could have used that the last time I got disciplined by Lamborghini for posting too much information on here.
Big brother is watching, and I am only trying to help, in order to avoid a nasty, avoidable £500 bill.
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
It would be lovely if every manufacturer admitted to certain foibles that their products suffer from, and make available the information that they give their dealers, but then if they did, dealers would never make any money over and above servicing.
And with regards to 'if it's not in the book, then it's b**lock', I wish I could have used that the last time I got disciplined by Lamborghini for posting too much information on here.
Big brother is watching, and I am only trying to help, in order to avoid a nasty, avoidable £500 bill.
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
Surely the point is that no one is going to pay a £500 bill for something they have done - when the manual tells you to do the complete opposite
I completely agree with you, but the point is not to let the car engine run for less than 2 minutes, regardless of whether you warm it up before you move off, or don't. Less than 2 minutes doesn't give the ecu's enough time to settle down, and can cause all sorts of problems, hence a trip to the dealership, and a hefty bill for whatever code the ecu throws up.
It is down to the individual garage as to whether or not they tell you that the reason you have lost an ignition coil is down to the engine being run for less than 2 minutes, or whether they say it is one of those things, it is not covered under warranty, that will be £500 please.
Ruttboy.
It is down to the individual garage as to whether or not they tell you that the reason you have lost an ignition coil is down to the engine being run for less than 2 minutes, or whether they say it is one of those things, it is not covered under warranty, that will be £500 please.
Ruttboy.
Alan, surely Lamborghini cant expect all Gallardo owners to sit in their cars idling for 2 minutes every time they turn their car over ?!
I can see it now....sitting at the petrol pumps with a queue of traffic waiting to use the pump, whilst waiting for my car to do its 2 minute party piece!
What if you stall in traffic in the middle of Piccadilly Circus (which I did on the first day I had it!) - should I have sat there grinding London to a halt for 2 mins LOL
I can see it now....sitting at the petrol pumps with a queue of traffic waiting to use the pump, whilst waiting for my car to do its 2 minute party piece!
What if you stall in traffic in the middle of Piccadilly Circus (which I did on the first day I had it!) - should I have sat there grinding London to a halt for 2 mins LOL
I think what Ruttboy is trying to say (Alan, correct me if I'm wrong) is don't run it for less than 2 mins, i'e, start it up, drive 15ft out of your garage and then turn it off. He is not saying to sit there for 2 mins warming it up either. Just don't start it up then stop it again as it does not like it. He's only trying to save you £500 bills!
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