Muira LP 400S on ebay!!!
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Spelled the title wrong!!! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1970-Lamborghin
Edited by freewheeler on Thursday 12th April 23:25
freewheeler said:
Spelled the title wrong!!! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1970-Lamborghin
Edited by freewheeler on Thursday 12th April 23:25
I want one but its allot.. Calipers look great paul.. Car is at HR Owen.. Should have it back today.. Take care
A Miura sold in California for $1,000,000 recently and there will be more of the same financial level of sale in the not too distant future.
Car magazine referred to one particular UK-based Miura as being valued at £250,000 nearly a year ago and sale prices continue to rise. Miura values are based on what people who understand Miuras are prepared to pay for them... These days £60 - £80k might buy you a Miura if you like them only slightly working and enjoy them being only barely useable...
Received 'wisdom' from the ill-informed re. SV versus S versus original spec. Miuras is that the later cars are obviously better. This is generalised poppycock - only the actual car in question is what determines any element of quality, not the letters on the back of the car or the mis-information gleaned from rumour and hearsay - but then, if you aren't at all close to actually having a Miura or indeed to the very tight-knit Miura mafia then you need never worry about having the right sort of information!
And no, nobody else made road-going transverse mid-engined V12's with architectural triple-choke carbs, gorgeous bodywork, jaw-bone dropping (for the late '60's) speed etc, etc that truly and originally defined, (arguably forever), the word 'supercar'. But then, nobody other than Lamborghini have ever made proper supercars anyway, just pale imitations or else overworked irrelevances.
Car magazine referred to one particular UK-based Miura as being valued at £250,000 nearly a year ago and sale prices continue to rise. Miura values are based on what people who understand Miuras are prepared to pay for them... These days £60 - £80k might buy you a Miura if you like them only slightly working and enjoy them being only barely useable...
Received 'wisdom' from the ill-informed re. SV versus S versus original spec. Miuras is that the later cars are obviously better. This is generalised poppycock - only the actual car in question is what determines any element of quality, not the letters on the back of the car or the mis-information gleaned from rumour and hearsay - but then, if you aren't at all close to actually having a Miura or indeed to the very tight-knit Miura mafia then you need never worry about having the right sort of information!
And no, nobody else made road-going transverse mid-engined V12's with architectural triple-choke carbs, gorgeous bodywork, jaw-bone dropping (for the late '60's) speed etc, etc that truly and originally defined, (arguably forever), the word 'supercar'. But then, nobody other than Lamborghini have ever made proper supercars anyway, just pale imitations or else overworked irrelevances.
XXVIII said:
A Miura sold in California for $1,000,000 recently and there will be more of the same financial level of sale in the not too distant future.
Car magazine referred to one particular UK-based Miura as being valued at £250,000 nearly a year ago and sale prices continue to rise. Miura values are based on what people who understand Miuras are prepared to pay for them... These days £60 - £80k might buy you a Miura if you like them only slightly working and enjoy them being only barely useable...
Received 'wisdom' from the ill-informed re. SV versus S versus original spec. Miuras is that the later cars are obviously better. This is generalised poppycock - only the actual car in question is what determines any element of quality, not the letters on the back of the car or the mis-information gleaned from rumour and hearsay - but then, if you aren't at all close to actually having a Miura or indeed to the very tight-knit Miura mafia then you need never worry about having the right sort of information!
And no, nobody else made road-going transverse mid-engined V12's with architectural triple-choke carbs, gorgeous bodywork, jaw-bone dropping (for the late '60's) speed etc, etc that truly and originally defined, (arguably forever), the word 'supercar'. But then, nobody other than Lamborghini have ever made proper supercars anyway, just pale imitations or else overworked irrelevances.
Car magazine referred to one particular UK-based Miura as being valued at £250,000 nearly a year ago and sale prices continue to rise. Miura values are based on what people who understand Miuras are prepared to pay for them... These days £60 - £80k might buy you a Miura if you like them only slightly working and enjoy them being only barely useable...
Received 'wisdom' from the ill-informed re. SV versus S versus original spec. Miuras is that the later cars are obviously better. This is generalised poppycock - only the actual car in question is what determines any element of quality, not the letters on the back of the car or the mis-information gleaned from rumour and hearsay - but then, if you aren't at all close to actually having a Miura or indeed to the very tight-knit Miura mafia then you need never worry about having the right sort of information!
And no, nobody else made road-going transverse mid-engined V12's with architectural triple-choke carbs, gorgeous bodywork, jaw-bone dropping (for the late '60's) speed etc, etc that truly and originally defined, (arguably forever), the word 'supercar'. But then, nobody other than Lamborghini have ever made proper supercars anyway, just pale imitations or else overworked irrelevances.
Couldn't agree with you more in what you say in your last paragraph, there is no doubt the Miura defined the word 'Supercar' and will always be one of the all time greets. I'm sure you are correct about the value of these cars, I'm only going by what I remember examples were selling for probably 3 or 4 years ago in the back of Classic Sportcar.
I'm no Lamborghini expert and have never owned one, but have to disagree with you that the 'received wisdom from the ill-informed' is 'utter tosh' with respect to the later cars, not sure about the S, but certainly with the SV the transverse V12 now had separate gearbox oiling system rather than engine and gearbox all sharing the same oil, which is ok in a mini but not in a hi performance V12, this is why most sump plugs in gearboxes are magnetic as to try and collect the alarming amount of metal splinters that collect in the oil! .
Finally the small matter of the addition of a front spoiler on the SV was to induce some kind of front downforce to prevent the unfortunate 170 mph front lifting antics of the earlier cars.
As regards the famous (inaccurate) low-flying Miura comments of many years, most famously puked up by J. Clarkson, any such matters were almost entirely to do with incorrect spring and damper settings. Miura owner's could usually further address the problems of any weight distribution changes being caused by fuel levels dropping through the simple expedient of putting more petrol in the car... "Supercar" does not (and maybe should not??) equal anything like convenience, so fuel stops every 100 miles or so is just one more of those little greiflettes to deal with when you have a Miura!
As regards the previously mentioned Ferraris - I'm in agreement re. the F40 (although I've never driven one so not best qualified to comment really) - they are a barely civilised racing car in many ways! The fact that you could / can ultimately go as fast if not faster in a Diablo sort-of swings the debate right there for me even before the consideration that any road going Ferraris are only built to fund a racing programme is made and that in the case of the F40 they barely tried to add even a smidgen' of much like proper glass or carpet or window winders or...
I'm sure that the Rover SD1 was sort-of intended to look a little Ferrari Daytona-like but, at least in te Rover you had a gearbox suited to a car. I'm convinced the root of the various 'tractor' jibes that Lamborghini people have had to put up with over the years is based on a simple 'truth' that I was made aware of when I was all of 16, (ie, in 1978), when a near-neighbour of an uncle had a Daytona and had progressively stronger people try to change gear for him from the passenger seat whilst travelling along with anything like ease... I think he gave up when a hearty and chunky chap in his early 30's couldn't actually make the fekkin' lever budge an inch... tractors indeed!
Those Miura prices mentioned may have been applicable a few years ago - it's not that long since a Member of LCUK was offered an 'S' for less than £10k!!
As regards the previously mentioned Ferraris - I'm in agreement re. the F40 (although I've never driven one so not best qualified to comment really) - they are a barely civilised racing car in many ways! The fact that you could / can ultimately go as fast if not faster in a Diablo sort-of swings the debate right there for me even before the consideration that any road going Ferraris are only built to fund a racing programme is made and that in the case of the F40 they barely tried to add even a smidgen' of much like proper glass or carpet or window winders or...
I'm sure that the Rover SD1 was sort-of intended to look a little Ferrari Daytona-like but, at least in te Rover you had a gearbox suited to a car. I'm convinced the root of the various 'tractor' jibes that Lamborghini people have had to put up with over the years is based on a simple 'truth' that I was made aware of when I was all of 16, (ie, in 1978), when a near-neighbour of an uncle had a Daytona and had progressively stronger people try to change gear for him from the passenger seat whilst travelling along with anything like ease... I think he gave up when a hearty and chunky chap in his early 30's couldn't actually make the fekkin' lever budge an inch... tractors indeed!
Those Miura prices mentioned may have been applicable a few years ago - it's not that long since a Member of LCUK was offered an 'S' for less than £10k!!
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