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MaserMurph

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27 posts

232 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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Having just replaced cats, I should replace these also - does anyone know if it's a just a "probe" I need to replace or an entire loom?

mr_tony

6,351 posts

299 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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Probe is fitted by basically removing the entire cars interior.

I had mine done on a 3200GT for 800 quid (cost of parts only). I shudder to think to the labour at a main dealer.

Might be best to chat to a good independent (verdi were always good to me) they might eb able to do it without taking the car to bits...

MaserMurph

Original Poster:

27 posts

232 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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Thanks, it's for a 4200. My question is to someone who knows the score rather than (like myself) ordinarily relying on a dealer's word. Your price for parts is OTT by a minimum factor of 4 versus a 4200.

Troesma

432 posts

244 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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Speak to Mathew (aka Wicked1 here) @ Giallo in Hildenborough; he will give you a realistic estimate and knows the car inside-out.

MaserMurph

Original Poster:

27 posts

232 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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Thanks, he certainly does. I just didn't like their £2k quote to replace a cat.

Troesma

432 posts

244 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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2K..? yikes

Then, cats replacement is not easy task. Check in the maseratilife.com forum; there has been some discussion there about the O2 sensors...

MaserMurph

Original Poster:

27 posts

232 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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Yeah, that was for 1. Junior at Longlife on the Queenstown Road in Battersea, just made me a pair of front cats, fitted for £900...


He would have done the lambdas too, but his "universal" ones didn't fit, so all I have to do is buy the right parts and he'll fit them.

Troesma

432 posts

244 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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Will have to check what Mathew has been smokin' recently tongue out

In all fairness, he's a top bloke and he's always priced me sensibly. Against that, you can rest assured he knows what he's doing on the Masers. Maybe he got some numbers wrong, it's a big price difference.

So in all seems you've got a good deal; time to head to Eurospares for those O2 sensors and off you go..?

Edited by Troesma on Tuesday 2nd October 10:09

MaserMurph

Original Poster:

27 posts

232 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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thanks again - are you familiar with the part - do I need the whole loom or is it just a "probe" that just screws in/wires up?

Troesma

432 posts

244 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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Whole loom I'm afraid, 92 quid. Check

http://www.eurospares.co.uk/partTable.asp?M=3&...

Item # 6

HTH

MaserMurph

Original Poster:

27 posts

232 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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thanks, I'm happy paying it if it's the right part - I just don't trust garages

Edited by MaserMurph on Tuesday 2nd October 10:17

Troesma

432 posts

244 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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You should have no probs with Eurospares. Check model/year (but I foresee no part difference, as cats were not re-designed) and that it is exactly what you need (assume your installer has told you so).

Brother Mycroft

843 posts

229 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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Before buying anything...

This is from a forum I used to post in... it's from June 1999...

Piece of advice, if you can remove your Oxygen sensor then once a year, do it, having bought a large lemon at your nearby Fruiterers/Supermarket earlier in the day, cut the lemon in half, and insert the tip of the probe in each of the segments for 10 minutes... you can with the other half of the lemon cut it in slices put them in a glass and while you wait for this 'mod' to do its work, pour yourself a little gin, a splash of tonic, a couple of cubes of ice, sit down, sip the drink while you twiddle the probe in the lemon congratulating yourself at being such a cool dude improving your car this way.

Cheap too.

The advice is real, Oxygen sensors are catalytic in nature and do not deplete themselves with use, they only get dirty, this dirt is from the exhaust and is microscopic the juice from the lemon is the perfect acid to remove the residue of combustion, you need not [unless the damned thing is snapped or has a broken wire] ever have to buy a replacement in the lifetime of any car ever.



Edited by Brother Mycroft on Tuesday 2nd October 12:04

MaserMurph

Original Poster:

27 posts

232 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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well I never! now if I only had a ramp...

stats007

531 posts

265 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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Brother Mycroft said:
Before buying anything...

This is from a forum I used to post in... it's from June 1999...

Piece of advice, if you can remove your Oxygen sensor then once a year, do it, having bought a large lemon at your nearby Fruiterers/Supermarket earlier in the day, cut the lemon in half, and insert the tip of the probe in each of the segments for 10 minutes... you can with the other half of the lemon cut it in slices put them in a glass and while you wait for this 'mod' to do its work, pour yourself a little gin, a splash of tonic, a couple of cubes of ice, sit down, sip the drink while you twiddle the probe in the lemon congratulating yourself at being such a cool dude improving your car this way.

Cheap too.

The advice is real, Oxygen sensors are catalytic in nature and do not deplete themselves with use, they only get dirty, this dirt is from the exhaust and is microscopic the juice from the lemon is the perfect acid to remove the residue of combustion, you need not [unless the damned thing is snapped or has a broken wire] ever have to buy a replacement in the lifetime of any car ever.



Edited by Brother Mycroft on Tuesday 2nd October 12:04
Not strictly true - it depends on the type of sensor. I wouldn't even bother trying this to be honest.

Brother Mycroft

843 posts

229 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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I am unaware of any other type but the Zirconium Dioxide reactors...

I have done this a number of times, it has worked on every occasion.

Troesma

432 posts

244 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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Now, really, if you are trying to go on the cheap for a spare which is 100 quid on a Maser, I mean... getmecoat

Don't doubt a lemon might do the job, but we're not talking mega money.

Brother Mycroft

843 posts

229 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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Troesma said:
Now, really, if you are trying to go on the cheap for a spare which is 100 quid on a Maser, I mean... getmecoat

Don't doubt a lemon might do the job, but we're not talking mega money.
Each to their own, I have always considered thrift a good trait in a human being.

I bet that if you knew [and it is also another truth] that the Tesco '98 SUL' is in fact as good as the much more expensive Shell equivalent then you too would fill up with it.

I see no difference in cleaning a perfectly serviceable item and re-using it than getting the best price for petrol or anything else for that matter.

stats007

531 posts

265 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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Brother Mycroft said:
I am unaware of any other type but the Zirconium Dioxide reactors...
Therein lies your problem wink.

Tesco petrol may use the same base stock as Shell V-Power but it's certainly not the same product.

Brother Mycroft

843 posts

229 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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stats007 said:
Brother Mycroft said:
I am unaware of any other type but the Zirconium Dioxide reactors...
Therein lies your problem wink.

Tesco petrol may use the same base stock as Shell V-Power but it's certainly not the same product.
Then please show me any production car type that is not ZD!

As far as I am aware the agreed format for all OBDs requires this type of sender for standardisation purposes.

The Tesco stuff is [if anything] slightly better than the V-Power, but it is amrginal so really of no consequence.

I am genuinely intrigued by the non-ZD probe... a link if you would be so kind.