348 flywheel grease
Discussion
Not sure how technical you guys on this forum get but I thought my recent experience of repacking the flywheel on a 348 TB would be of interest and maybe some use.
It took a great deal of investigating to find out exactly what grease should be used and eventually I found the correct stuff. For those who may undertake this task (common to many Ferraris), the grease you need (and you need to buy around 200g) is "UNISILCON GLK 1301" manufactured by Kluber.
Kluber have offices in the UK and are very helpful. I bought 250g and the cost was around £25. It is very unusual and expensive stuff!
What was also of interest was the response from several Ferrari main dealers. They said "Oh, we just use Molycoat white grease. Its fine for that job. Get it from a motor factor." It isnt fine at all!
It liquifies, it leaks and it doesnt do the correct job.
When I stripped the flywheel, the grease that was in it literally trickled out. It should be thick and sticky. The last people to do the job had used standard Moly grease.
The correct grease is very adhesive, unaffected by temperature and unaffected by the considerable centrifugal force of a flywheel rotating at 7500rpm.
Ask which grease it to be used, next time you are having this job done. Klubers technical guys say that it makes a world of difference.
It was also interesting to note that main dealers don't necessarily use Ferrari original parts if a cheap OEM part is available from a factor. That goes for anything that doesn't have 'Ferrari' moulded into it!
It took a great deal of investigating to find out exactly what grease should be used and eventually I found the correct stuff. For those who may undertake this task (common to many Ferraris), the grease you need (and you need to buy around 200g) is "UNISILCON GLK 1301" manufactured by Kluber.
Kluber have offices in the UK and are very helpful. I bought 250g and the cost was around £25. It is very unusual and expensive stuff!
What was also of interest was the response from several Ferrari main dealers. They said "Oh, we just use Molycoat white grease. Its fine for that job. Get it from a motor factor." It isnt fine at all!
It liquifies, it leaks and it doesnt do the correct job.
When I stripped the flywheel, the grease that was in it literally trickled out. It should be thick and sticky. The last people to do the job had used standard Moly grease.
The correct grease is very adhesive, unaffected by temperature and unaffected by the considerable centrifugal force of a flywheel rotating at 7500rpm.
Ask which grease it to be used, next time you are having this job done. Klubers technical guys say that it makes a world of difference.
It was also interesting to note that main dealers don't necessarily use Ferrari original parts if a cheap OEM part is available from a factor. That goes for anything that doesn't have 'Ferrari' moulded into it!
Talkwrench said:
Ask which grease it to be used, next time you are having this job done. Klubers technical guys say that it makes a world of difference.
It was also interesting to note that main dealers don't necessarily use Ferrari original parts if a cheap OEM part is available from a factor. That goes for anything that doesn't have 'Ferrari' moulded into it!
I know plenty of Ferrari specialists who don't use the Ferrari OEM parts, as they use parts that are EXACTLY the same but without a poxy horse on it. DAYCO belts are OEM to Ferrari, yet the ones I get are exactly the same as they are made by DAYCO and supplied by them-but it lacks a horse on the belt. Difference in price is huge and it doesn't come in a yellow box. UFI filters for Ferrari's come in a yellow box if you go to Maranello UK and a white box from UFI. Again, exactly the same item. Sometimes even Maranello don't bother to change the box! But guess where you pay more...It was also interesting to note that main dealers don't necessarily use Ferrari original parts if a cheap OEM part is available from a factor. That goes for anything that doesn't have 'Ferrari' moulded into it!
Edited by yellowtr on Friday 16th May 11:39
Thanks Micheal.
I've posted it up on the 348 website as well if that's ok.
http://www.theferrari348.com/forum/showthread.php?...
I've posted it up on the 348 website as well if that's ok.
http://www.theferrari348.com/forum/showthread.php?...
yellowtr said:
I know plenty of Ferrari specialists who don't use the Ferrari OEM parts, as they use parts that are EXACTLY the same but without a poxy horse on it.
This is fine Pete, and we all see the sense in using them ... but the point is that we are talking main dealers here, not indies. As long as the part is correct for the job I will happily pay for a £5 Fiat part versus £25 for the Ferrari branded part ... as long as that is indeed what I am charged 
Sy, I will copy it over to CS and FC. It is my car Michael is working on
burriana said:
yellowtr said:
I know plenty of Ferrari specialists who don't use the Ferrari OEM parts, as they use parts that are EXACTLY the same but without a poxy horse on it.
This is fine Pete, and we all see the sense in using them ... but the point is that we are talking main dealers here, not indies. As long as the part is correct for the job I will happily pay for a £5 Fiat part versus £25 for the Ferrari branded part ... as long as that is indeed what I am charged Sy, I will copy it over to CS and FC. It is my car Michael is working on
The procedure is pretty easy, if a little time consuming and very messy!
I just hope he used the right grease! Its very wierd stuff. Its a bit like smearing bathroom sealant all over the damper - except that there is no smell and it doesn't set, obviously!
My point about the main dealer parts is exactly as Al said. I get the feeling that they fit an £8.00 track rod end from a motor factor and then charge out a Ferrari part at £48.00. Who could ever tell after the part is fitted?
I just hope he used the right grease! Its very wierd stuff. Its a bit like smearing bathroom sealant all over the damper - except that there is no smell and it doesn't set, obviously!
My point about the main dealer parts is exactly as Al said. I get the feeling that they fit an £8.00 track rod end from a motor factor and then charge out a Ferrari part at £48.00. Who could ever tell after the part is fitted?
Talkwrench said:
The procedure is pretty easy, if a little time consuming and very messy!
I just hope he used the right grease! Its very wierd stuff. Its a bit like smearing bathroom sealant all over the damper - except that there is no smell and it doesn't set, obviously!
My point about the main dealer parts is exactly as Al said. I get the feeling that they fit an £8.00 track rod end from a motor factor and then charge out a Ferrari part at £48.00. Who could ever tell after the part is fitted?
Sorry I misread it stupidly, hence my original reply-blonde momentI just hope he used the right grease! Its very wierd stuff. Its a bit like smearing bathroom sealant all over the damper - except that there is no smell and it doesn't set, obviously!
My point about the main dealer parts is exactly as Al said. I get the feeling that they fit an £8.00 track rod end from a motor factor and then charge out a Ferrari part at £48.00. Who could ever tell after the part is fitted?
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