Who does angine tweaks on maseratis?
Who does angine tweaks on maseratis?
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jimmyb

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12,254 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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This is a curiousity killed the cat question. Was having a bit of a think and was wondering who does engine mods to maseratis and what is available in terms of power increases as an exhaust can only bump up power by a small margin. For ex would it be poss to upgrade a 4200 to around 420-430bhp or if not a standard 4200 a gransport and what would engine wear implications be?

B*gger. A is soooo close to E rolleyes

Edited by jimmyb on Thursday 19th June 19:58

fade2grey

704 posts

278 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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I've seen twin turbos and twin super charger conversions for them biggrin

I'll stick with my std GS though lol

jimmyb

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12,254 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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What are the known problems with the gs and what would be needed budget wise to run one say 5-10k per year if that?

stepr1

114 posts

268 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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Jimmy,

The engine on a 4200 or GS is the last thing you need to tweak. I would focus on better brakes!!

jimmyb

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12,254 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th June 2008
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Well i wouldnt know as i have never driven one however i just cancelled my GT-R and have always had a soft spot for the 3200 with boomerang lights but they are underpowered and unreliable as a sweeping generalisation (I know that there are people out there who've never had problems but I wouldnt want to chance it) whereas the gs has both build q and power and to a degree better looks although sadly no boomerang lights.(thats the americans fault isnt it?)

I have had my eye on a specific gs for a few months now and the price keeps dropping and it becomes more and more tempting.


David A

3,725 posts

281 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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jimmyb said:
Well i wouldnt know as i have never driven one however i just cancelled my GT-R and have always had a soft spot for the 3200 with boomerang lights but they are underpowered and unreliable as a sweeping generalisation (I know that there are people out there who've never had problems but I wouldnt want to chance it) whereas the gs has both build q and power and to a degree better looks although sadly no boomerang lights.(thats the americans fault isnt it?)

I have had my eye on a specific gs for a few months now and the price keeps dropping and it becomes more and more tempting.
TBH wrt 3200s I'd say they're probably overpowered for the chassis, the 4200 has plenty enough for the type of car it is though the chassis could handle more and better than a 3200 could.

I'd get another 3200 again given how cheap they are relativly, though the "toy car" money is going towards a testarossa at some point.

Dave

rob hamilton

29 posts

312 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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DMS Automotive do Mods for the GS. I belive they can get it up to 439 HP. I am still getting acclimatised to the standard 400 before I look at this though....

360arg

3 posts

220 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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stepr1 said:
The engine on a 4200 or GS is the last thing you need to tweak. I would focus on better brakes!!
I couldn't agree more. I had a GS for 6 months and I always felt the brakes to be borderline dangerous. Cracking engone though, you'd think as its so similar to a 430's you could get nearer 500hp out of it

fade2grey

704 posts

278 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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The brakes are fine for normal fast road use - if they are particularly bad, change the fluid, possibly replace pads etc - the usual stuff. I do admit, they don't have a fantastic amount of 'feel' in the GS in normal mode but are better in sports.

400bhp in the GS is plenty you'll need a good surface & warm tyres to lay it all down in a hurry anyway. biggrin

problems with the GS - to be honest, on the 2006 & above pretty much nothing. The earlier ones (like the 4200cc's) are known for potentially eating clutches & F1 actuators but most of the later GS's rarely have any issues.

I do prefer the boomerangs but a late 06 fully sorted GS is the direction I went in - so far I've had no problems other than needing tyres & a couple of squeaks\rattles under warranty.

Either way, they are both nice cars.. if you are going 3200 I'd seriously consider a GTA over a manual - esp if you are upping the power. The elastic band gearbox is pretty well matched to the torque curve.

rs48635

557 posts

244 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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jimmyb said:
Well i wouldnt know as i have never driven one however i just cancelled my GT-R and have always had a soft spot for the 3200 with boomerang lights but they are underpowered and unreliable as a sweeping generalisation (I know that there are people out there who've never had problems but I wouldnt want to chance it) whereas the gs has both build q and power and to a degree better looks although sadly no boomerang lights.(thats the americans fault isnt it?)

I have had my eye on a specific gs for a few months now and the price keeps dropping and it becomes more and more tempting.
Looking at your recent cars, suggest you go and drive a maserati before deciding which upgrade to choose. In any case the best and first mod for any car (mine included) is driver training. The 4200 and 3200 may not be the fastest cars on the block, but corners do arrive well before you expect.wink Brakes on any road car over 1500 Kg need to be in tip-top fettle to keep you in shape. Can't vouch for 4200 but the 3200 brakes are just good enough. Maybe these cars are underpowered, but wheelspin on dry roads in 3rd and 4th must mean I am deficient in the testicular volume department.eek

3200gt

2,727 posts

254 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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370bhp is plenty enough to get you into trouble on todays roads, especially in the wet, as several on here will testify.
Regarding brakes all you need to do on a 3200 is braided hoses, EBC red sftuff pads and decent tyres.

jimmyb

Original Poster:

12,254 posts

246 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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rs48635 said:
jimmyb said:
Well i wouldnt know as i have never driven one however i just cancelled my GT-R and have always had a soft spot for the 3200 with boomerang lights but they are underpowered and unreliable as a sweeping generalisation (I know that there are people out there who've never had problems but I wouldnt want to chance it) whereas the gs has both build q and power and to a degree better looks although sadly no boomerang lights.(thats the americans fault isnt it?)

I have had my eye on a specific gs for a few months now and the price keeps dropping and it becomes more and more tempting.
Looking at your recent cars, suggest you go and drive a maserati before deciding which upgrade to choose. In any case the best and first mod for any car (mine included) is driver training. The 4200 and 3200 may not be the fastest cars on the block, but corners do arrive well before you expect.wink Brakes on any road car over 1500 Kg need to be in tip-top fettle to keep you in shape. Can't vouch for 4200 but the 3200 brakes are just good enough. Maybe these cars are underpowered, but wheelspin on dry roads in 3rd and 4th must mean I am deficient in the testicular volume department.eek
Driver training is something I would look at once getting the car I think with the aim of using the car during driver training so i can be taught how to use it specifically and find the limits etc on a circuit.

If brakes are the only real concern then I would look at upgrading them as a matter of course. I had heard that they can be a little lively at the rear and worked next to a maserati/ferrari etc garage a while back and saw many come in with the back bent.

David A

3,725 posts

281 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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Second the driver training bit, skid pan days etc. They are lively at the rear no question. Don't know what you've been in before but you will learn quickly not to floor itin low gears or any gear in the wet (particularly a 3200 with turbos ready to whip you)

Dave

Pvapour

8,981 posts

283 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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Hi, I own a 4200 (have done for some time) & there is a company based in London (& Birmingham i think) who said that they would do a remap for £600 with a bak to bak RR sesion with a guarateed 30hp gain, seemed quite a good offer, cant remember right now who it was but i will be looking at it this week, will post up some details.

Troesma

432 posts

244 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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Speak to Jeff at Formula Dynamics in the US. They do ECU piggyback tuning, brakes (pads + SS braided hoses) and DBW unit, plus other stuff. I have bought the brake pads from them.

I hoped to set an operation in the UK to distribute his kitware (spoke to Jeff about this at lenght) but don't have the time, really.

For more info check

http://www.formuladynamics.com/street-track.php



Edited by Troesma on Saturday 21st June 11:17

Colossus

336 posts

244 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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I agree with Troesma, Jeff at FD is worth a chat to re up grades. It is also worth considering having the standard Cats replaced with sports ones as this should liberate between 20-30hp. Larini are lookingat doing a set for me and will let you know how I get on.