Nearly a very big moment in the Murcie...................
Discussion
...........driving up a fastish A road...came accross a new M5 "making progress"....stuck behind him for a little while , 30 seconds or so (as an aside HOW MUCH crap do M5's throw up at speed - must be some sort of venturi effect combined with the wide tyres - more pepper spray damage to the front of the car from 30 seconds behind an M5 than the preceding 6000 miles of fast A and B road work! GRRRR! ) - anyway "made progress" past the M5 and then just as I passed him - BANG - then whoosh and whirr then screech - then silence - then tinkle tinkle!! all from the off side front.............at first I thought blow out - then maybe a bolt in the tyre?.......bit further along the road car seems to be behaving normally other than the "tinkling" noise??.....get to the next intersection and pull off for a look in a Parking area.......can't see anything at all?...strange....so carry on to my parents house - we pop the car onto a kerb and lift the suspension - then put wheel on full lock - WOW - what a mess!
Bascially what has happened is that there is a large 3" bore flexible hose (the spiral wound type with steel wire in it to keep it rigid) that ducts cooling air from the front lower intakes and directs it into the rear of the brake discs - it is routed from the lower front of the wheel arch, over the top of the suspension arms and then into the rear of the hub carrier at the top, and mine has come off at high speed and got wrapped around the front drive shaft!!
The wire in the hose has wrapped REALLY tightly around the plastic remnants and filled the length of the drive shaft - damaging the front CV boot into the bargain. The "tinkling" noise was a couple of the loose ends of the wire spinning round and hitting the lower wishbone.
I've been REALLY lucky....the wire is quite a decent thickness/guage and if the hose and wire had wrapped around the steering control arms (which are an inch or so away), or even one of the wishbones, as well as pulling round the driveshaft it could have been very nasty indeed......I was also lucky it didn't take out the brake hose/pipe (it has loosened them from their clips).
Bit of a poor design frankly.........seeing as it seems to be held in place with a jubilee clip at each end and a zip-tie!
So thanking all the Italian Saints tonight...........but who said Audification is going to be a bad thing??....not me anymore that's for sure!
Bascially what has happened is that there is a large 3" bore flexible hose (the spiral wound type with steel wire in it to keep it rigid) that ducts cooling air from the front lower intakes and directs it into the rear of the brake discs - it is routed from the lower front of the wheel arch, over the top of the suspension arms and then into the rear of the hub carrier at the top, and mine has come off at high speed and got wrapped around the front drive shaft!!
The wire in the hose has wrapped REALLY tightly around the plastic remnants and filled the length of the drive shaft - damaging the front CV boot into the bargain. The "tinkling" noise was a couple of the loose ends of the wire spinning round and hitting the lower wishbone.
I've been REALLY lucky....the wire is quite a decent thickness/guage and if the hose and wire had wrapped around the steering control arms (which are an inch or so away), or even one of the wishbones, as well as pulling round the driveshaft it could have been very nasty indeed......I was also lucky it didn't take out the brake hose/pipe (it has loosened them from their clips).
Bit of a poor design frankly.........seeing as it seems to be held in place with a jubilee clip at each end and a zip-tie!
So thanking all the Italian Saints tonight...........but who said Audification is going to be a bad thing??....not me anymore that's for sure!
Edited by dealmaker on Sunday 5th October 19:34
Good to see Lamborghini design has evolved over the last 20 years! 
I had a very similar thing happen on my Countach with the spiral type brake cooling hose disintegrating and the wire inside hitting the brake discs and inside of the wheel. I really thought something was seriously wrong from the horrible noise it made, but I couldn’t understand why the car still felt normal to drive until I got home to take a look at it.

I had a very similar thing happen on my Countach with the spiral type brake cooling hose disintegrating and the wire inside hitting the brake discs and inside of the wheel. I really thought something was seriously wrong from the horrible noise it made, but I couldn’t understand why the car still felt normal to drive until I got home to take a look at it.
TSS said:
Good to see Lamborghini design has evolved over the last 20 years! 
I had a very similar thing happen on my Countach with the spiral type brake cooling hose disintegrating and the wire inside hitting the brake discs and inside of the wheel. I really thought something was seriously wrong from the horrible noise it made, but I couldn’t understand why the car still felt normal to drive until I got home to take a look at it.
I'm amazed that both you and dealmaker heard "horrible noises" and yet carried on driving!
I had a very similar thing happen on my Countach with the spiral type brake cooling hose disintegrating and the wire inside hitting the brake discs and inside of the wheel. I really thought something was seriously wrong from the horrible noise it made, but I couldn’t understand why the car still felt normal to drive until I got home to take a look at it.
Don't either of you have RAC cover?
Handy hint, if you hear a dodgy noise, pull over...
Godzilla said:
TSS said:
Good to see Lamborghini design has evolved over the last 20 years! 
I had a very similar thing happen on my Countach with the spiral type brake cooling hose disintegrating and the wire inside hitting the brake discs and inside of the wheel. I really thought something was seriously wrong from the horrible noise it made, but I couldn’t understand why the car still felt normal to drive until I got home to take a look at it.
I'm amazed that both you and dealmaker heard "horrible noises" and yet carried on driving!
I had a very similar thing happen on my Countach with the spiral type brake cooling hose disintegrating and the wire inside hitting the brake discs and inside of the wheel. I really thought something was seriously wrong from the horrible noise it made, but I couldn’t understand why the car still felt normal to drive until I got home to take a look at it.
Don't either of you have RAC cover?
Handy hint, if you hear a dodgy noise, pull over...
MrAbramovich said:
Godzilla said:
TSS said:
Good to see Lamborghini design has evolved over the last 20 years! 
I had a very similar thing happen on my Countach with the spiral type brake cooling hose disintegrating and the wire inside hitting the brake discs and inside of the wheel. I really thought something was seriously wrong from the horrible noise it made, but I couldn’t understand why the car still felt normal to drive until I got home to take a look at it.
I'm amazed that both you and dealmaker heard "horrible noises" and yet carried on driving!
I had a very similar thing happen on my Countach with the spiral type brake cooling hose disintegrating and the wire inside hitting the brake discs and inside of the wheel. I really thought something was seriously wrong from the horrible noise it made, but I couldn’t understand why the car still felt normal to drive until I got home to take a look at it.
Don't either of you have RAC cover?
Handy hint, if you hear a dodgy noise, pull over...
Edited by dealmaker on Monday 6th October 16:55
MrAbramovich said:
Godzilla said:
TSS said:
Good to see Lamborghini design has evolved over the last 20 years! 
I had a very similar thing happen on my Countach with the spiral type brake cooling hose disintegrating and the wire inside hitting the brake discs and inside of the wheel. I really thought something was seriously wrong from the horrible noise it made, but I couldn’t understand why the car still felt normal to drive until I got home to take a look at it.
I'm amazed that both you and dealmaker heard "horrible noises" and yet carried on driving!
I had a very similar thing happen on my Countach with the spiral type brake cooling hose disintegrating and the wire inside hitting the brake discs and inside of the wheel. I really thought something was seriously wrong from the horrible noise it made, but I couldn’t understand why the car still felt normal to drive until I got home to take a look at it.
Don't either of you have RAC cover?
Handy hint, if you hear a dodgy noise, pull over...

Of course I stopped and checked and phoned up a specialist for advice. But as there was nothing to see and it felt fine to drive there was not much I could do in terms of investigation until I got it home (about 10 miles driven very slowly and carefully).
MrAbramovich said:
Godzilla said:
TSS said:
Good to see Lamborghini design has evolved over the last 20 years! 
I had a very similar thing happen on my Countach with the spiral type brake cooling hose disintegrating and the wire inside hitting the brake discs and inside of the wheel. I really thought something was seriously wrong from the horrible noise it made, but I couldn’t understand why the car still felt normal to drive until I got home to take a look at it.
I'm amazed that both you and dealmaker heard "horrible noises" and yet carried on driving!
I had a very similar thing happen on my Countach with the spiral type brake cooling hose disintegrating and the wire inside hitting the brake discs and inside of the wheel. I really thought something was seriously wrong from the horrible noise it made, but I couldn’t understand why the car still felt normal to drive until I got home to take a look at it.
Don't either of you have RAC cover?
Handy hint, if you hear a dodgy noise, pull over...
Anjum
jonny5 said:
Davey S2 said:
Darren
Have you got your 997 GT2 yet and if so how does it compare to the GT3RS & CGT? (I hope you havent got rid of the CGT
)
think the stable has changed?Have you got your 997 GT2 yet and if so how does it compare to the GT3RS & CGT? (I hope you havent got rid of the CGT
)....so today I am mainly looking at buying a FGT and tuning it to an inch of it's life!
dealmaker said:
....so today I am mainly looking at buying a FGT and tuning it to an inch of it's life!
RE1000?!?!There are some insane FGT's out there - Lots of videos on Youtube
Murci not much quicker than an M5?!?!?!
I really hope that's a joke reply. Just in case it isn't:
2008 M5 Performance :
Acceleration (0-60 mph): 4.8 sec.
Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 111.7 ft.
Base Number of Cylinders: 10
Base Engine Size: 5 liters
Base Engine Type: V10
Horsepower: 500 hp
Max Horsepower: 7750 rpm
Torque: 383 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 6100 rpm
Drive Type: RWD
Turning Circle: 40.7 ft.
Curb weight, 1550 kg (3417 lb).
Lamborghini Murcielago:
Layout: Mid-Engine/AWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: V12
Displacement: 6192 cc
Horsepower: 580 bhp @ 7500 rpm
Torque: 480 lb-ft @ 5400 rpm
Redline: 7500 rpm
Curb Weight: 3638 lbs
Performance
0-60 mph: 3.6 sec
0-100 mph: 8.7 sec
Quarter Mile: 12 sec @ 121 mph
Skidpad: .90g
Top Speed: 205 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 122 ft
Edited by evil_dr_fish on Wednesday 8th October 15:44
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