New boots on the 355
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Nope....I've recently opted for Toyo T1-R's on my 360 after being unhappy with the standard Pirelli's.
The Toyo's are proving to be rather good, much more confidence inspiring than the Pirelli's and as a bonus are virtually half the price of the Pirelli's.
The Toyo's are proving to be rather good, much more confidence inspiring than the Pirelli's and as a bonus are virtually half the price of the Pirelli's.
Edited by taaffy on Wednesday 8th October 01:30
Not sure how tyres react on different cars however I found GoodYear Eagle F1 GS-D3s' were a great all weather tyre (especially good in the wet). From memory I think BF Goodrich are supposed to produce an excellent dry weather semi-slick tyre - there was a review site somewhere with them on.
I think you need to be a member of Costco though, right?
Have been reading this a little...
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/
Have been reading this a little...
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/
Edited by Cactussed on Wednesday 8th October 16:13
Cactussed said:
The F1's seem to get a good review as well.
Has anybody on here used Wembley tyres in London?
Have you tried www.etyres.co.uk?Has anybody on here used Wembley tyres in London?
I have used them once before as so have many other people I know. They come to you so save some hassle. Not always the cheapest but reliable and take good care of your wheels. Highly recommended.
See you on Sunday afternoon.
Cactussed said:
The F1's seem to get a good review as well.
Has anybody on here used Wembley tyres in London?
I get my 355 tyres from there. Run by chap called Marcus. Highly recomemnded.Has anybody on here used Wembley tyres in London?
I've always used the Pirelli Pzero System tyres myself. Would be interested to know what the other tyres are like though as I may switch.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2007-evo-tyre...
Kuhmo came in just after the Pirelli's, which themselves weren't all that. So bang versus buck is your answer. That, and the fact that I have experience of the tyres on most of my cars and have found them to be excellent.
I personally think that, with the odd exception aside and obvious things like retreads, we have been sold a story on tyres and that for your average driver, there is very little discernable difference unless you switch to very expensive, super sticky items which last the length of your driveway. All IMHO of course.
I also think the whole argument of "that's what they were designed to run with sir" is poppycock. Its a car, plain and simple. Works just like every other car, and in some areas not as well as some other far cheaper ones if we're being honest.
Kuhmo came in just after the Pirelli's, which themselves weren't all that. So bang versus buck is your answer. That, and the fact that I have experience of the tyres on most of my cars and have found them to be excellent.
I personally think that, with the odd exception aside and obvious things like retreads, we have been sold a story on tyres and that for your average driver, there is very little discernable difference unless you switch to very expensive, super sticky items which last the length of your driveway. All IMHO of course.
I also think the whole argument of "that's what they were designed to run with sir" is poppycock. Its a car, plain and simple. Works just like every other car, and in some areas not as well as some other far cheaper ones if we're being honest.
Edited by Cactussed on Thursday 9th October 17:20
was8v said:
Totally different kettle of fish but I find Kumho KU31s better than Toyo T1s in a 205/50/15 on my 190 bhp front wheel drive coupe. Cheaper too.
Do people often run cheap tyres on Ferraris? I'd expect you all to be running good year, mcihelin and pirelli premium rubber!
I run whatever I feel makes the car handle the way that I prefer it to ......Pirelli's to me made it feel too loose in the corners....the Toyo's transformed the handling......much more secure.Do people often run cheap tyres on Ferraris? I'd expect you all to be running good year, mcihelin and pirelli premium rubber!
jleroux said:
i wouldn't even consider running toyos or kumhos on my road barge let alone the 355. the rubber is the only bit in contact with the ground - why spend tens of thousands on a perfectly-honed sportscar and then compromise the handling and grip by scrimping on the tyres?
I bought my 360 with factory approved Pirelli's on it and was not happy with them from the start, I felt that the handling was compromised by the rubber it was running.....I stuck with Pirelli for a second set as the dealer suggested that it might be that they were half worn when I bought the car, and also that I should stay with factory approved tyres. Even with brand new Pirelli rubber the car felt unpredictable in corners, very loose and not at all confidence inspiring. I decided to change to Toyo's and immediately the car felt planted and very stable in all aspects and road conditions.I'm glad that I changed rubber as I was beginning to feel that my car had something wrong with it.
Edited by taaffy on Thursday 9th October 19:31
Cactussed said:
I personally think that, with the odd exception aside and obvious things like retreads, we have been sold a story on tyres and that for your average driver, there is very little discernable difference unless you switch to very expensive, super sticky items which last the length of your driveway. All IMHO of course.
I 100% agree. On the cars I run I have noticed Toyo T1S/R and Kumho KU31 to be better than Yoko a539 and Pirelli in all conditions, and a match for Goodyear Eagle and Michelin Pilot.However the Toyo and Kumho seem to have a soft compound so do not last as long as Michelin. They last long enough for them to make £ sense!
jleroux said:
i wouldn't even consider running toyos or kumhos on my road barge let alone the 355. the rubber is the only bit in contact with the ground - why spend tens of thousands on a perfectly-honed sportscar and then compromise the handling and grip by scrimping on the tyres?
plenty of race & rally teams worldwide don't seem to have an issue with them ? Kumho is very well respected and at the moment, are where Yokohama were in the european market in the early 90's,buying market share with fantastic products at an excellent price point...Any of the non top 4 brands that have an involvement in motor sport in some way or another will pretty much secure you some decent tyres. If they have the know how to make competetive there can sure make a decent road tyre.
A lot of the Taiwanese based factories have huge R&D dept's & massive investment in modern manufacturing facilities. Don't forget the Pirelli/Michelin/Dunlop are European brands & probably considered budget in Asia!!
You only need to do a quick search
Kumho - Rallying, make some of the best there is
Maxxis - There's hardly a motor sport they're not involved in
Federal - Check out their factory facilities!! with their own huge test track
Falken - Again fairly big in motorsport in asia
Toyo - They make R888's nuff said
Probably unbeknown to most people at least 3 of the others above make tyres comparable or even better to say Yoko's R888's or Advan A048's etc, however they are not marketed here in the UK, so to us petrolheads they are just another tyre manufacturer.
Its very interesting how brand recognition is more than important than say a technical review, of which I must say there is'nt much out there.
retrorider said:
Its very interesting how brand recognition is more than important than say a technical review, of which I must say there is'nt much out there.
Good information there 
In my case I bought the Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics on the basis of having run several sets of GSD3s on other cars and the results of the tyre test in last November's Evo mag. So far I'm very impressed with them - loads of grip, fair amount of feel and really nice crisp turn-in where you can feel the front hooking up and grabbing hold of the road.
What size F1s are you running Pete.
I agree, big branding is mostly Bollx. I had P-zeros on the last Ferrari and they were fine, I have Falkens on this one, and they too are fine ... the best tyres I have ever experienced were the Eagle F1s on the 911.
If I can find them to fit the Ferrari I will be very happy ... it's either them or 888s
I agree, big branding is mostly Bollx. I had P-zeros on the last Ferrari and they were fine, I have Falkens on this one, and they too are fine ... the best tyres I have ever experienced were the Eagle F1s on the 911.
If I can find them to fit the Ferrari I will be very happy ... it's either them or 888s
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