Quattroporte values
Quattroporte values
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CraigW

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12,248 posts

312 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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interested in your opinions chaps.

Realise its a bit finger in the air but I think I can buy an 04 48k mile QP with all the toys and just serviced for £24,500.

Interested in whether you think that's too much or about right & also where those cars will be in 12 months time?

Generally you see them advertised from £27900 with the odd v high miler a bit lower. Have been and driven a few & whilst they dont have the pace of my RS6 they are really lovely cars IMHO.

What are your thoughts of the above & also how do you perceive QP's ?

Cheers,

Craig

Burba

1,870 posts

287 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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lovely cars - an absolute bargain at that money if you ask me!!!

Steve_M

598 posts

265 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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Absolutely love Quattroportes, the gentleman's Ferrari GT biggrin , would consider one myself with the new transmission.

Don't like the slow autobox gearchange on the earlier cars.

But could live with it at that price smile

ingelow

153 posts

231 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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was about to ask that actually - never driven either, but had heard bad things about the boxes on the older models - is it really that bad? I think that might put me off a bit, presumably, it'd grate on you during a long drive cross country which would be what I'd want one for.

interested to hear what others think...

sclayto2

971 posts

239 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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Is it this car, by any chance?

That is a lot of car for the money.

andy355

1,347 posts

268 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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11k on the last service?!

JUST HAD A MAJOR SERVICE ON 11 SEPTEMBER 2008 WITH BILLS TOTALLING £11,189.23 INCLUDING A NEW CLUTCH - ALL WORKS CARRIED OUT AT HR OWEN FERRARI AND MASERATI SERVICE: NEW INFOTAINMENT SYSTEM FITTED AT A COST OF £5,731.78 ON 11TH SEPTEMBER AS WELL

Steve_M

598 posts

265 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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ingelow said:
was about to ask that actually - never driven either, but had heard bad things about the boxes on the older models - is it really that bad? I think that might put me off a bit, presumably, it'd grate on you during a long drive cross country which would be what I'd want one for.

interested to hear what others think...
If you use the flappy paddles and change gear when you want to it's great.
But I found that in auto, especially around town the gear change is almost headbutt the windscreen bad, better in sport mode, but still noticeably very jerky. Not what i would expect from a premium GT car.

but in the car's defense, gearbox aside, I liked it a lot, classy mota biggrin

paulqv

3,124 posts

225 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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is the gearbox that bad? I did about 450 miles in a 4200GT and about the same in a 360 with same gearbox and didnt mind it. I love the QP and have been thinking about one although apprecaite the new auto is meant to be better. Whys is the gearbox so bad? Never driven aQP but am sorley tempted at current prices


sjn2004

4,051 posts

267 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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Steve_M said:
ingelow said:
was about to ask that actually - never driven either, but had heard bad things about the boxes on the older models - is it really that bad? I think that might put me off a bit, presumably, it'd grate on you during a long drive cross country which would be what I'd want one for.

interested to hear what others think...
If you use the flappy paddles and change gear when you want to it's great.
But I found that in auto, especially around town the gear change is almost headbutt the windscreen bad, better in sport mode, but still noticeably very jerky. Not what i would expect from a premium GT car.

but in the car's defense, gearbox aside, I liked it a lot, classy mota biggrin
Have long did you drive the Duoselect? The gear changes are quicker/snappier in SPORT mode(which prolongs clutch life). I never drive mine in Auto mode which is the default at start up. The transmission is actually the softest version of the Ferrari F1 transmission. The only people who complain are those who bought one thinking its was a S500 with a torque convertor. When changing up, you need to modulate with the throttle, just as you would with any manual car.

Edited by sjn2004 on Thursday 23 October 22:07

sjn2004

4,051 posts

267 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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paulqv said:
is the gearbox that bad? I did about 450 miles in a 4200GT and about the same in a 360 with same gearbox and didnt mind it. I love the QP and have been thinking about one although apprecaite the new auto is meant to be better. Whys is the gearbox so bad? Never driven aQP but am sorley tempted at current prices
Its not bad, its just that a few journalists expected a torque convertor and S500 handling/ride but instead got a four door gransport with a paddleshift. When I first drove the car I expected the gearbox to be a nightmare, after about five minutes I turned to the salesman and told him what BS is talked about the gearbox.

CraigW

Original Poster:

12,248 posts

312 months

Friday 24th October 2008
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yeah I test drove one last week. It wasnt as instant a change as on my RS6 but once you got used to it then you could drive it pretty smoothly & that was after 10 minutes or so, so bound to get easier. I thought it was a very smooth car to drive, surprised how quiet it was inside.

willcrookz

11,544 posts

224 months

Friday 24th October 2008
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alot of car for the money, but 11k services....!?

isuk

1,526 posts

246 months

Friday 24th October 2008
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Badly worded ad I'd suspect. The £11k will be service bills from new. These cars are not cheap to maintain like mass produced S class, 7 series and A8's. They are serviced at dual franchise Ferrari/Maserati dealers who have to spread their overhead costs over far fewer customers cars. They don't have hoards of 3 series/C classes/A4's etc visiting their workshops like the other brands and the manufacturer makes less than 10k cars in total per annum so have to charge more for their parts as they don't have volume sales to reduce unit costs.

paulqv

3,124 posts

225 months

Friday 24th October 2008
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Thanks for clarifying this. i was wondering because I liked the paddle shift change in both the 4200 and 360 and didnt find any geat issues with them if driven smoothly. In fact I thought the 4200 as being probably the best junior supercar I had ever driven and way ahead of the 360 as a day to day useable car and much less twitchy etc.

sjn2004

4,051 posts

267 months

Friday 24th October 2008
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willcrookz said:
alot of car for the money, but 11k services....!?
Putting that in the ad will make sure that the car never sells. Not sure how they got over 5k for the infotainment system though, at eurospares an equivalent unit for a 4200 is £1300. Makes you wonder if they spent 10 hours diagnosing the problem at £xxx per hour then gave up and replaced the whole lot.

baguaman

335 posts

239 months

Saturday 25th October 2008
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i bought a black one yesterday with black leather interior...27000 miles. and drove it back from guildford to london.... . i also own a ferrari 550 ....

the car is great .. the handling out of sport is not good... so its better to leave the car in sport mode..

the gear change in automatic..is not that sophisticated... but how sophisticated are our manual changes...i myself can be very lazy with a manual change so..not really bothered by the slowness of the automatic change..

paddle shift mode is excellent... i have owned a bmw m3 a porsche and a cerbera... in comparison the way the maserati puts 4.2 litres of power down is very sophisticated.

but... the car is massive ... and thats a little cumbersome..but i bought it to transport the kids and the room in the rear is also massive ... the finish is superb..and the price...mmmmmm....dont want them to drop further...mine was a very good price and if the market holds now i will be very happy with my resale in a year...