360 Modena questions...
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I keep being tempted by one of these, for reasons of having to own a Ferrari at some point in my car owning career, the noise, the looks etc etc... The prices are also looking more tempting.
My main question is around F1 shift or manual.
My limited experience of manual Ferrari shifts is that it takes several seconds to do it, but is a lot of fun in the process.
The F1 shift appears to be very good. There are also more of them.
But which is better in terms of suiting the car, and for the experience?
Secondly, would a 360 cope on the odd trackday, or would it cost several arms and several legs? Are they reasonably chuckable?
Thanks
My main question is around F1 shift or manual.
My limited experience of manual Ferrari shifts is that it takes several seconds to do it, but is a lot of fun in the process.
The F1 shift appears to be very good. There are also more of them.
But which is better in terms of suiting the car, and for the experience?
Secondly, would a 360 cope on the odd trackday, or would it cost several arms and several legs? Are they reasonably chuckable?
Thanks
Several seconds is a bit of an exaggeration ... they are as quick as most manual boxes, but you need to be very precise ... but the click clack through the open metal gate is quite addictive.
The early F1 shifts in the 355s were ok but not the best. Moving into the 360s they got a lot better, although someone with more experience than me may provide a deeper insight.
Yes the 360s are very chuckable. No, a few track days won't hurt it.
The gearbox is down to personal choice. It is a lot faster than a manual change no denying and, you don't need to take your hands away from the wheel.
The early F1 shifts in the 355s were ok but not the best. Moving into the 360s they got a lot better, although someone with more experience than me may provide a deeper insight.
Yes the 360s are very chuckable. No, a few track days won't hurt it.
The gearbox is down to personal choice. It is a lot faster than a manual change no denying and, you don't need to take your hands away from the wheel.
The manual in the 360 is very good does not baulk like some early Fearrari is easy to engage all gears from cold, clutch is not heavy.
The F1 in the 360 IMHO is not up to scratch till you get to the CS. The 430 F1 change is good.
You will need to try both and make your own decision as you might be happy with 360 F1 change.
Good hunting.
The F1 in the 360 IMHO is not up to scratch till you get to the CS. The 430 F1 change is good.
You will need to try both and make your own decision as you might be happy with 360 F1 change.
Good hunting.
Great previous debates on manual or paddle shift. Its a matter of choice. I love the manual. I believe early F1 360's needed software updates to remove jerky changes.
Only time I ever missed paddle shift was on track days when braking hard into corners and downshifting at the same time, heel toe took a bit of practice with my size 10.
Only time I ever missed paddle shift was on track days when braking hard into corners and downshifting at the same time, heel toe took a bit of practice with my size 10.
900ssduke said:
Great previous debates on manual or paddle shift. Its a matter of choice. I love the manual. I believe early F1 360's needed software updates to remove jerky changes.
Only time I ever missed paddle shift was on track days when braking hard into corners and downshifting at the same time, heel toe took a bit of practice with my size 10.
I think that's a fundamental point about F1 vs Manual. If you can heel & toe there is no feeling quite like being hard on the brakes and crashing down through the box while heel & toeing. I can't ever imagine wanting an F1 boxed Ferrari for that reason and sincerely hope they move away from the trend of not offering Manual options.Only time I ever missed paddle shift was on track days when braking hard into corners and downshifting at the same time, heel toe took a bit of practice with my size 10.
I have the 6MT, which can be shifted as fast as most other cars. It is a good track car so make sure to track it once or twice to try it out. Learn to H&T (if not already done) as any self-respecting sportscar drivers should. Go for the 6MT, you will enjoy it more.
Edited by Modena Scotland on Friday 14th November 11:54
Modena Scotland said:
I have the 6MT, which can be shifted as fast as most other cars. It is a good track car so make sure to track it once or twice to try it out. Learn to H&T (if not already done) as any self-respecting sportscar drivers should. Go for the 6MT, you will enjoy it more.
Your model discription does not exist you have a Modena it has no suffix if manualEdited by Modena Scotland on Friday 14th November 11:54
Thanks for the feedback chaps.
If the F1 shift has been upgraded (software) then that's good. I hear they can be jerky.
Good also to hear it can be tracked once in a while.
Jonny (MB here from S2ki / Exiges.com) I know you track your 355, but would you have any worries about driving something like a 360 to Spa and back, or similar? I just worry about Italian temprament / reliability!
I did it in the Exige with BaT this year and it was great, apart from it being downright dangerous on motorways
If the F1 shift has been upgraded (software) then that's good. I hear they can be jerky.
Good also to hear it can be tracked once in a while.
Jonny (MB here from S2ki / Exiges.com) I know you track your 355, but would you have any worries about driving something like a 360 to Spa and back, or similar? I just worry about Italian temprament / reliability!
I did it in the Exige with BaT this year and it was great, apart from it being downright dangerous on motorways
Edited by MB 1 on Friday 14th November 12:48
In terms of handling IMVHO I still believe the 355 handles better than the 360. The 360 is very sensistive to geo setup (mine might have been out as it had spun it more than a few times), it is also sensitive to tyre pressures as this can effect the traction control. The 355 has more mechanical grip than the 360 - again I think the 360 relies on electronics to keep you on the road.
The 355 is an easier car to 'drift' than a 360
The 355 is an easier car to 'drift' than a 360
I bought a 355 manual. F1 is probably miles quicker to change, but I may not buy another Ferrari and there was no way on God's Green Earth I was ever going to miss out on that metal gate. If it's just a step to another one, maybe try the F1. I have never driven one so cannot really comment or compare.
Believe me, the click-clack noise is part of the experience not to be missed.
Believe me, the click-clack noise is part of the experience not to be missed.
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