Buy now, prices are definitely on the up!
Buy now, prices are definitely on the up!
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FactoryPilot

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1,352 posts

246 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Just a bit of news guys, and I'm not a dealer or trying to sell a car or anything else that might impair my view, but today I witnessed a 'closed' auction where a certain Italian concessionaire was selling off some ex-demo, ex-press/management cars, etc, to franchised dealers - all online.

Anyway, every single car achieved above book and by a fair bit too.

My mate who is the DP of a franchised dealership agreed with what LamboBrum has said on here, in that no one can get good stock and there is very strong demand. Ergo, demand is outstripping supply.

evil_dr_fish

2,481 posts

255 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Yep!

I've been told by a well respected, honest dealer that they are experiencing supply side problems too!

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iandc

3,892 posts

236 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Isn't that an oxymoron????

XXVIII

2,800 posts

244 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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iandc said:
Isn't that an oxymoron????
...not always - some dealers are decent people, you just have to find the good 'uns...

Folk here on PistonHeads can (usually!) help wink


17511

141 posts

230 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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FactoryPilot said:
Just a bit of news guys, and I'm not a dealer or trying to sell a car or anything else that might impair my view, but today I witnessed a 'closed' auction where a certain Italian concessionaire was selling off some ex-demo, ex-press/management cars, etc, to franchised dealers - all online.

Anyway, every single car achieved above book and by a fair bit too.

My mate who is the DP of a franchised dealership agreed with what LamboBrum has said on here, in that no one can get good stock and there is very strong demand. Ergo, demand is outstripping supply.
Of course prices are going up, every gallardo/murcielago owner will say the same, desperately trying to talk the market up. All Lamborghini prices, including classics are absolutely rocketing up, it's so clear, that's why I've just taken a hit of over £70K on a car I brought only months ago at the top of the market. Get real. If you don't want to lose money, don't sell the car, but if you need to save the house and get rid of the car, be prepared to take a beating

evil_dr_fish

2,481 posts

255 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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bertie

8,569 posts

314 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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I've just swapped the family bus and was enquiring about nearly new Discoverys and since I printed out some details last week, 2 of the 4 cars have had their prices increased so in my small expierance it does seem to have bottomed and be picking up.

That's used cars, new sales are still on their arse!

martin thomas

1,079 posts

261 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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In my experiance used cars don't go up in value they just depreciate slower.

Martin

MrAbramovich

693 posts

269 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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martin thomas said:
In my experiance used cars don't go up in value they just depreciate slower.

Martin
Countach, Diablo ????

martin thomas

1,079 posts

261 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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MrAbramovich said:
martin thomas said:
In my experiance used cars don't go up in value they just depreciate slower.

Martin
Countach, Diablo ????
collectables! Modern supercars are mass produced.

Martin

simonspider

1,327 posts

279 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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FactoryPilot said:
Just a bit of news guys, and I'm not a dealer or trying to sell a car or anything else that might impair my view, but today I witnessed a 'closed' auction where a certain Italian concessionaire was selling off some ex-demo, ex-press/management cars, etc, to franchised dealers - all online.

Anyway, every single car achieved above book and by a fair bit too.

My mate who is the DP of a franchised dealership agreed with what LamboBrum has said on here, in that no one can get good stock and there is very strong demand. Ergo, demand is outstripping supply.
Sounds good to me. I've a lovely Orange Murcie in the right colour - Pearl Orange and its been with me since new. Only done 103,000 miles too. 3 Clutches and 630 different drivers. Will anyone offer £90K? Bargain. I might ring Lambo Brum tomorrow wink

XXVIII

2,800 posts

244 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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evil_dr_fish said:
that was almost worth the effort Robin, pretty calming image though, thank you...

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FactoryPilot

Original Poster:

1,352 posts

246 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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simonspider said:
Sounds good to me. I've a lovely Orange Murcie in the right colour - Pearl Orange and its been with me since new. Only done 103,000 miles too. 3 Clutches and 630 different drivers. Will anyone offer £90K? Bargain. I might ring Lambo Brum tomorrow wink
Hey, the strange thing is that I personally would rather spend the cash on an honest car with 103k miles that has been looked after, than one with.... hmmm, how can I say.... dubious heritage!

FactoryPilot

Original Poster:

1,352 posts

246 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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17511 said:
Of course prices are going up, every gallardo/murcielago owner will say the same, desperately trying to talk the market up. All Lamborghini prices, including classics are absolutely rocketing up, it's so clear, that's why I've just taken a hit of over £70K on a car I brought only months ago at the top of the market. Get real. If you don't want to lose money, don't sell the car, but if you need to save the house and get rid of the car, be prepared to take a beating
Unfortunately, as you said, if you buy at the peak of the market and then sell at the bottom, there's always going to be a bit of soreness. There's probably not a petrolheaded brethren on here that hasn't taken a beating in the past, but that's just life. My point was that certain cars genuinely appear to be at the bottom of the market now and are definitely firming up. In some cases even increasing slightly in value due to lack of decent stock available.

Desperado's that needed to sell their cars at any price have now done so, and the people who don't need to sell are holding onto them as they would rather enjoy the car than let it go for peanuts. There's still people out there wanting to buy good cars, therefore, if there are not many available the prices will firm up or increase.

And just for the record, you mention Lambo's, the auction I was talking about wasn't for Lambo's.


Webber3

1,228 posts

249 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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bertie said:
I've just swapped the family bus and was enquiring about nearly new Discoverys and since I printed out some details last week, 2 of the 4 cars have had their prices increased so in my small expierance it does seem to have bottomed and be picking up.
Are you sure this is not just dealers cycling their prices up and down?

Chris355

831 posts

226 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Absolutely dreaming! Prices are not going up, they are coming down. Anyone who is telling you they are going up is trying to put some positivity back in the market (or is totally nuts).

PS: used cars only go down in value (unless there is something very special about them!)

bertie

8,569 posts

314 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Webber3 said:
bertie said:
I've just swapped the family bus and was enquiring about nearly new Discoverys and since I printed out some details last week, 2 of the 4 cars have had their prices increased so in my small expierance it does seem to have bottomed and be picking up.
Are you sure this is not just dealers cycling their prices up and down?
Well buyoed by my bargain my brother is after one now and can't find anything.
I'm certainly not saying cars are appreciating, no way, but the free fall seems to have stopped.

sjn2004

4,051 posts

267 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Webber3 said:
bertie said:
I've just swapped the family bus and was enquiring about nearly new Discoverys and since I printed out some details last week, 2 of the 4 cars have had their prices increased so in my small expierance it does seem to have bottomed and be picking up.
Are you sure this is not just dealers cycling their prices up and down?
LR have started offering upto £7500 discounts on new D3's, doubt nearly new 2nd hand ones would start to appreciate.

bertie

8,569 posts

314 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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sjn2004 said:
Webber3 said:
bertie said:
I've just swapped the family bus and was enquiring about nearly new Discoverys and since I printed out some details last week, 2 of the 4 cars have had their prices increased so in my small expierance it does seem to have bottomed and be picking up.
Are you sure this is not just dealers cycling their prices up and down?
LR have started offering upto £7500 discounts on new D3's, doubt nearly new 2nd hand ones would start to appreciate.
When you can get under 6 months old ones for £16k off like I did you can imagine it.
I'm just saying what happened to me

GreigM

6,740 posts

279 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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sorry, but thinking prices are on the up is simply delusional - there may be a little drought in supply as sellers recoil at the bids, but this will be very temporary and once sellers realise that there is not the hope of recovery that they all believe spring will bring (why would there be - look at the economy, its VERY bleak out there, there will be riots on the streets, civil unrest, wars) - there's possibly a bit of "dead cat bounce" going on right now in the market and if anything I think its the stall before the complete collapse of the luxury car market, which WILL happen when everyone pulls their head out their arses and realises quite how in the st we all are.....yesterday Gordon added a £20K per person tax burden to every taxpayer in the UK - and people still think use car prices are going to go up......pick up a book on basic economics please!!