Any hire their cars to any supercar driving experiences?
Any hire their cars to any supercar driving experiences?
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KevF

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1,994 posts

228 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Did a driving experience the other weekend and was discussing it afterwards with a good friend who owns a :whisper: Ford GT:whisper off:....

I mentioned that the cars didnt seem to get treated badly and in general were only taken around the circuit in third by the punters.

Does anyone hire their own personal cars to these companies and if so what costs are incurred versus the charge to them...and would they want a Ford GT amongst their fleet at weekends. The car is based in Birmingham so quite well placed for a few circuit/airfield locations.

Kev

guyh

640 posts

241 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Please email me

Gring

1,594 posts

235 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Why the heck would anyone want to rent their car out to one of those places? It's gonna be driven by people who have no idea about driving such cars, and gonna get f***ed.
If your gonna spend £100k plus on a car surely its not for the money?

DIW35

4,205 posts

230 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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That'd be a resounding 'not on your nelly, mate.'

HowMuchLonger

3,041 posts

223 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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It is a way of people who can't afford the cars outright to be able to finance the purchase through lending it out.

evil_dr_fish

2,481 posts

255 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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As the age old saying goes - if you think you can JUST afford one - then you can't!

It only takes one bill and you're f*ked! frown

While some Ferraris, Lambos TVRs, Nobles Esprits etc may have come down to easy purchase money... The servicing costs / parts are still supercar money. You can indeed save a lot by staying out of the 'official dealer network' and using independents but some costs will always be the same! frown

simonspider

1,327 posts

279 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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Gring said:
Why the heck would anyone want to rent their car out to one of those places? It's gonna be driven by people who have no idea about driving such cars, and gonna get f***ed.
If your gonna spend £100k plus on a car surely its not for the money?
Obviously you dont speak from experience then?

I bought my Orange Murcie new in 2004 and had enough money to make 3 payments on it at the time, after that I planned to sell it. Instead as I fell in love with it I found out about these supercar driving day companies on the net and decided to train to instruct in my Murcie on the odd weekend to pay for it.

In the 3 years I did that yes I had the odd goon but mostly people were very nervous and didnt push it. The clutch lasted 32000 miles. Biggest outlay was pads and tyres.
As it happened I set up my own company doing the same thing with a friend and although we do own a small fleet now, we do hire the odd extra car in, and when we do they get treated as if they are ours smile

Gring

1,594 posts

235 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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Way I look at it is that I buy a car for myself, I wouldnt want anyone else driving it.

Buying a car on the basis you can afford the first 3 payments is not somthing I would consider.

Depreciation would make it a very expensive route to go down.

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

270 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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You can't pull away in 3rd that many times in the Ford and the clutch like it. Just ask P1. And people will do it. Some adrenaline filled pilot that doesn't listen will be its downfall, they always are.

I wouldn't let someone I don't know drive our BMW let alone any of the other cars...

simonspider

1,327 posts

279 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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Gring said:
Way I look at it is that I buy a car for myself, I wouldnt want anyone else driving it.

Buying a car on the basis you can afford the first 3 payments is not somthing I would consider.

Depreciation would make it a very expensive route to go down.
Whatever. I had the choice of either selling it at the time or letting other people drive it with me in the passenger seat.

Result was I still have the car today and own another 10.

Vinny09

249 posts

222 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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The phrase "speculate to accumulate" springs to mind...nice one.

Sounds like it worked out nicely - I would love to run a business in supercars one day!

smile

Ps. Enjoy the fast fleet reviews.

fieldl

1,320 posts

261 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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Gring said:
Way I look at it is that I buy a car for myself, I wouldnt want anyone else driving it.

Buying a car on the basis you can afford the first 3 payments is not somthing I would consider.

Depreciation would make it a very expensive route to go down.
Why not? Well actually I can see why not but I can also see why.
However if I really really wanted to I'd take the risk. However I'm not exactly risk adverse but it seems to suit me fine.

Better to have had and lost then never had at all smile

ROOODBOY

4,650 posts

225 months

Monday 23rd March 2009
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I am a huge enthusiast of Lamborghini, Ferrari, Maserati, Bugatti and lots of other exotic cars.

I have to make do with my twenty year-old home-converted E30 BMW 3.5 turbo as an every day car and occasional track toy and a shed of a Maserati Biturbo, due to my finances not stretching to the Countach of my desires!

For the last few years of birthday and Christmas presents I have been bought (as requested) 'driving experiences' in a Diablo, a Gallardo, 996 Turbo, 997 Carrera, F355 and Lotus Exige, plus I have a drive of a Murcielago coming up.

It's the only way I can get to drive the cars of my dreams at present, but I can say that from what I've seen the cars are driven cautiously, carefully, respectfully and the instructors have (all but one) been enthusiastic yet very respectful also.

If you instill confidence in them with smooth and mechanically sympathetic driving then they do allow you to push the cars a little, but I suspect still nowhere near their limits!

You are always going to get the odd person who doesn't have a clue, but the instructors would be quick to slow them down or get them off track, I'm sure.

If I ever end up driving YOUR car, I wouldn't worry too much!

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Edited by ROOODBOY on Monday 23 March 01:50

sebo

2,180 posts

256 months

Monday 23rd March 2009
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I can see why people do this TBH.

I attended a GT3 & V8 Vantage driving experience and noticed that all of the cars were road registered. I enquired and was told that people "let" their cars out for this purpose.

I paid £35 for 3 laps in the GT3 (very short track) and after pulling away from the pits, didn't go below 2nd gear and didn't get above 4th, despite us never getting over 4000rpm.

For me it gave me the ability to experience the car and I was so nervous of binning it that I didn't want to go any quicker.

I doubt we covered a mile during my 3 laps and I wouldn't say the Porker was particularly stressed either.

No idea what percentage £ the owner would have received but I should imagine a 60:40 split in the owner's favour would be fair.

If the car went out 25 times on a Saturday, based on my guestimate above - it would earn the owner £525 and would have likely covered less than 30 miles.

There is always the risk that the driver may bin it or miss a gear etc but my instructor was an ex-traffic cop and I felt like I should be on my best behaviour smile

If memory serves me correctly, there was a kill switch in the car too, on the passenger side. Also, the track was very wide (on an airfield) so there seemed little risk of hitting anything.

I can see both sides of the argument but based on my experience as a punter, I'd be happy to follow a similar set-up if it enabled me to drive the car of my dreams for the other 29 days a month.

(The fact that I couldn't afford the deposit on a Lambo, let-alone the servicing, kind of rules it out though... frown)

JCB123

2,265 posts

226 months

Monday 23rd March 2009
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HowMuchLonger said:
It is a way of people who can't afford the cars outright to be able to finance the purchase through lending it out.
And what's wrong with that? That's business isn't it?

I'm contemplating this with A.N.Other car, just need to look at the finances and ensure that I can afford a couple of months without anyone wanting to drive it...but then at least I'll have a beautiful car sat on my drive, available when I want it...

MHT223

198 posts

238 months

Monday 23rd March 2009
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simonspider said:
had enough money to make 3 payments on it at the time
Loving your work!! Glad it worked out for you and you got to keep it!

Mark



Pork

9,455 posts

264 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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MHT223 said:
simonspider said:
had enough money to make 3 payments on it at the time
Loving your work!! Glad it worked out for you and you got to keep it and write one of the most amusing/interesting long term tests in Evo!

Mark
EFA biggrin

Godzilla

2,035 posts

279 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Pork said:
MHT223 said:
simonspider said:
had enough money to make 3 payments on it at the time
Loving your work!! Glad it worked out for you and you got to keep it and write one of the most amusing/interesting long term tests in Evo!

Mark
EFA biggrin
Hear hear!

Gring

1,594 posts

235 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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simonspider said:
Gring said:
Way I look at it is that I buy a car for myself, I wouldnt want anyone else driving it.

Buying a car on the basis you can afford the first 3 payments is not somthing I would consider.

Depreciation would make it a very expensive route to go down.
Whatever. I had the choice of either selling it at the time or letting other people drive it with me in the passenger seat.

Result was I still have the car today and own another 10.
Well good for you.





NoelWatson

11,710 posts

272 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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JCB123 said:
HowMuchLonger said:
It is a way of people who can't afford the cars outright to be able to finance the purchase through lending it out.
And what's wrong with that? That's business isn't it?

I'm contemplating this with A.N.Other car, just need to look at the finances and ensure that I can afford a couple of months without anyone wanting to drive it...but then at least I'll have a beautiful car sat on my drive, available when I want it...
Would be interested to know what car you are thinking about doing this with as I am trying to build a "business case" to persuade the Mrs.