tiny 430 issue.....any advice?

[groak]

I've an 8000 mile 55 manual 430 coupe. After first startup I let the engine idle for 1-2 mins before moving off. A few seconds after I move off the e-diff alarm and red warning panel come on, followed by the low-grip symbol. I stop, switch engine off, then restart and everything's fine. The problem never recurs following stops during any outing.

Any ideas why this happens and what I should do about it?

Thx in advance

[evil_dr_fish]

Just out of curiosity - How frequently do you drive it?

[sjn2004]

First thing you need to do is get a dealer to read the error code. Besides those warning lights there are 100's of other error's which end up flashing those icons. All you need is an error code reader that reads the CAN protocol, then look up the code.

[SAGPACK]

groak said:

I've an 8000 mile 55 manual 430 coupe. After first startup I let the engine idle for 1-2 mins before moving off. A few seconds after I move off the e-diff alarm and red warning panel come on, followed by the low-grip symbol. I stop, switch engine off, then restart and everything's fine. The problem never recurs following stops during any outing.

Any ideas why this happens and what I should do about it?

Thx in advance

Mine does it too. Dealer has told me to switch off the battery (switch is in the boot..at the front) and leave it a good 10 minutes, then switch back on and insert key to get all dash lights on but don't start, wait approx 30 seconds for all the software to reboot and then fire it up! On the other hand you can do what you've already done ie just switch it off and start it again

[Davey S2]

Why do you let the engine idle? General consensus is that its better for the car if you move off as soon as possible (gently at first of course)

[sjn2004]

Davey S2 said:

Why do you let the engine idle? General consensus is that its better for the car if you move off as soon as possible (gently at first of course)

So what happens at traffic lights? I thought the only no no was to take the car out of the garage then switch it off after only running 20-30 secs due to unburnt fuel poisoning the cats.

[kryten22uk]

sjn2004 said:

Davey S2 said:

Why do you let the engine idle? General consensus is that its better for the car if you move off as soon as possible (gently at first of course)

So what happens at traffic lights?

Who has traffic lights at the exit of their driveway?

I think DaveyS2 was suggesting that letting the engine warm slowly is damaging and you should get it to operational temp asap. This is also what I have been led to believe.

[Soovy]

Every Ferrari owner I know starts the car and idles it for a couple if minutes at the very least to get the juices flowing round the beast.

[GSP]

That the problem, the juices dont flow, because there is no pressure in the system. It is better to just move off.

[groak]

Thanks for the replies.

Seems there are divergent opinions on whether to warm up slowly or asap. It's a strange 'problem' because it doesn't appear to have a cause or a consequence, so I think it'll just get put down to 'throat clearing', left till the annual service, then passed as suggested for electronic diagnostic.

[Soovy]

GSP said:

That the problem, the juices dont flow, because there is no pressure in the system. It is better to just move off.

But Ferrari gearboxes are difficult when cold.

When I start my 911 from stone cold, oil pressure is >5 bar

[sjn2004]

kryten22uk said:

sjn2004 said:

Davey S2 said:

Why do you let the engine idle? General consensus is that its better for the car if you move off as soon as possible (gently at first of course)

So what happens at traffic lights?

Who has traffic lights at the exit of their driveway?

I think DaveyS2 was suggesting that letting the engine warm slowly is damaging and you should get it to operational temp asap. This is also what I have been led to believe.

Actually there's a house about 300 yards from where I live but I get your point.

How does idling cause damage? If the engine is cold and its doing 1000rpm, surely its doing less damage than being at the same temp and doing 3000rpm(which it would be for one moment in time)? If you're just moving your car(out of garage/rearranging etc) then its never going to get to temperature anyway, in this situation I understood you should leave it running for 1-2mins (rather than running for 20 secs or so) so the exhaust gets hot so that unburnt fuel is not left in the system.