New McLaren MP4-12C at Top Gear Track
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"Everybody knows Ferrari; only real enthusiasts know McLaren, which I think puts you in a higher-echelon club. That’s not to say Ferraris are not impressive — they are — but you might buy a Ferrari for other reasons. You would buy a McLaren only if you were a real enthusiast."
Have always suspected JL is a bit anti-Ferrari (does he own one?)...and his bias is hard to hide.
Not a blinkered F-car man myself, but it remains to be seen whether the MP4 is better looking than the 458. Let alone a better ownership proposition (no matter how many futblers and "lower echelon" "non-enthusiasts" own them
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Have always suspected JL is a bit anti-Ferrari (does he own one?)...and his bias is hard to hide.
Not a blinkered F-car man myself, but it remains to be seen whether the MP4 is better looking than the 458. Let alone a better ownership proposition (no matter how many futblers and "lower echelon" "non-enthusiasts" own them
).Murph7355 said:
Have always suspected JL is a bit anti-Ferrari (does he own one?)...and his bias is hard to hide.
He had a massive run in with a Ferrari dealership and Ferrari NAiirc basically the dealer said he would get an car (think it was a 550) then the market price rose so they told him to either pay a premium or he wont get the car. As a result he said he would never buy a Ferrari
I have 2 good UK friends who also will never ever buy a Ferrari because of the way UK dealers promised cars, took deposits and then never delivered.
I've never understood why Ferrari have failed to appreciate the way that they have alienated so many potential customers.
traxx said:
I've never understood why Ferrari have failed to appreciate the way that they have alienated so many potential customers.
You would have thought they might have got a clue after they alienated an italian bloke back in the late fifties/early sixties, Ferruccio or something like that. It seems that the Enzo philosophy lives on.pioneer said:
That's a positive review from Jay. Can't wait for this car to come out... It weighs less than my RS60 but has twice the power!I think it will put a spanner in the works of Ferrari, Lambo and Porsche.
I can't help thinking it looks a bit like this at the moment.
I am in a position to buy one next year but right now it doesn't look quite right, I prefer the AMG SLS or the Ferrari 458, not sure what the list price is of those though.
I am sure it will drive like nothing else saying that..
I know it's only a mule but I was surprised to see how much the seats moved around through the corners!
I do beleive this will be a great car would be happy to see it upset the Ferrari apple-cart a bit but it saddens me a little to see MCL wring-out even more promotional mileage from Jay Leno!
Come on Ron, give Rowan Atkinson a call for a change!
I do beleive this will be a great car would be happy to see it upset the Ferrari apple-cart a bit but it saddens me a little to see MCL wring-out even more promotional mileage from Jay Leno!
Come on Ron, give Rowan Atkinson a call for a change!
They just want to be sure it's quicker than the 458 round the "Top Gear Track"!! 
traxx said:
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I have 2 good UK friends who also will never ever buy a Ferrari because of the way UK dealers promised cars, took deposits and then never delivered. ....
Not quite in their league I shouldn't wonder, but I am also very unlikely to buy from a Ferrari main dealer after the way they handled my first F-car.I have 2 good UK friends who also will never ever buy a Ferrari because of the way UK dealers promised cars, took deposits and then never delivered. ....
Trouble is, there are people who would queue to buy from them if they launched a dog turd on 4 wheels. So there's zero impetus to change.
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