Ferrari 355 spider

[keven]

Can anybody help i have noticed on mine that there is a split where the engine is bolted on i understand this is common it looks like part or end of chassis.

[ferrari spider]

I dont understand a word of that mate. Describe it all again with more detail. Picture will help id the point.

[ferrari spider]

Point it out to me mate. Can you see it from this picture?

Edited by ferrari spider on Saturday 23 January 22:37

[keven]

this is the item in question can ant body help

[ferrari spider]

Yep thats ya corroded subframe, and its shagged. Ya have to take the engine out and have it replaced (megga money) or repaired by some one who can weld properly.
The cause of this is because there is a moisture and salt trap in that part of the subframe. You will find the one on the other side will look the same. Not good Glad we got that cleared up.

Edited by ferrari spider on Sunday 24th January 17:08

[yellowgriff]

keven said:

this is the item in question can ant body help

Not a huge problem .. Any good body shop could weld it back without showing..Would have to have a good look but doesn't look like the engine needs to be removed either..

[SpeedYellow]

To fix that properly, you do need to take the engine out as the subframe needs to have a plate welded in to ensure that it's still strong. Seen it done before but shouldn't just be tacked up with a quick weld as all the metal in the area would will be thin...

[yellowgriff]

yellowgriff said:

keven said:

this is the item in question can ant body help

Not a huge problem .. Any good body shop could weld it back without showing..Would have to have a good look but doesn't look like the engine needs to be removed either..

[ferrari spider]

SpeedYellow said:

To fix that properly, you do need to take the engine out as the subframe needs to have a plate welded in to ensure that it's still strong. Seen it done before but shouldn't just be tacked up with a quick weld as all the metal in the area would will be thin...

Absolutely correct. It needs to be done correctly, so the engine NEEDS to be removed. The corrosion in the picture WILL be only the start of the corrosion, mark my words. How can anyone think this is a 5 minet job
I take out my own engine and subframe for servicing, i know whats involved.
This problem happens on both 348s and 355s. I have a brand new engine subframe/cradel in my garage that belongs to PH poster Angelis because of the same problem. Though not as serious.

[yellowgriff]

ferrari spider said:

SpeedYellow said:

To fix that properly, you do need to take the engine out as the subframe needs to have a plate welded in to ensure that it's still strong. Seen it done before but shouldn't just be tacked up with a quick weld as all the metal in the area would will be thin...

Absolutely correct. It needs to be done correctly, so the engine NEEDS to be removed. The corrosion in the picture WILL be only the start of the corrosion, mark my words. How can anyone think this is a 5 minet job
I take out my own engine and subframe for servicing, i know whats involved.
This problem happens on both 348s and 355s. I have a brand new engine subframe/cradel in my garage that belongs to PH poster Angelis because of the same problem. Though not as serious.

How can anyone think this is a 5 minet job Cant see that said anywhere

[ferrari spider]

yellowgriff said:

ferrari spider said:

SpeedYellow said:

To fix that properly, you do need to take the engine out as the subframe needs to have a plate welded in to ensure that it's still strong. Seen it done before but shouldn't just be tacked up with a quick weld as all the metal in the area would will be thin...

Absolutely correct. It needs to be done correctly, so the engine NEEDS to be removed. The corrosion in the picture WILL be only the start of the corrosion, mark my words. How can anyone think this is a 5 minet job
I take out my own engine and subframe for servicing, i know whats involved.
This problem happens on both 348s and 355s. I have a brand new engine subframe/cradel in my garage that belongs to PH poster Angelis because of the same problem. Though not as serious.

How can anyone think this is a 5 minet job Cant see that said anywhere

Hey i know there are back st garages that would think that this repair could be done by a little tac welding, while the engine is still in.
No wonder there are so many crap 355s out there.

[AndrewW-G]

Whilst the subframe is out, if your not replacing it, I'd suggest having it shot/bead blasted then magnafluxed / crak tested, prior to repairing it. From the look of the picture and having seen similar, the metal tears / cracks as its being flexed and has been weakend by corrosion, the factory finish hides most smaller cracks and the only way to find them is to have it all checked

The positive part is, that once its all out / apart, you'll have perfect access to all the oily bits to clean and repaint